Why do so many people want to emmigrate from the UK?
Mar 9th 2006, 10:11 pm
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Re: Why do so many people want to emmigrate from the UK?
Originally Posted by tottefan
Statistically, around 80% of Brits return to the UK from NZ.
Mar 9th 2006, 11:13 pm
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Re: Why do so many people want to emmigrate from the UK?
Originally Posted by tottefan
Actually, my post was partly in response to all the negative old farts that seem to be posting on this forum. My point is that NZ may not be perfect, but neither is the UK at present - hence, the reason why many Brits would leave given the chance.
My post doesn't seem any more whiny than any other I've read on here. Could it be that you just happen to disagree with it?
What's happened to this idea of impartiality? It works both ways you know!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tottefan.
I shouldn't have to make only flowery holiday brochure posts just because some folk on here get offended or bored or whatever by the truth.
Mar 9th 2006, 11:33 pm
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Re: Why do so many people want to emmigrate from the UK?
Originally Posted by snowbunny
Wow, that's a high recidivism rate!
Mar 9th 2006, 11:51 pm
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Re: Why do so many people want to emmigrate from the UK?
Originally Posted by tottefan
Recent polls have suggested that over half of the British population would like to move abroad.
IMO probably due to the following:
1) Parents in the UK are so wrapped up in materialism and buying their kids 'nice things' that they forget that children just want love and support.
2) Materialism
3) The complete and total loss of law and order: around 70 people were stabbed on new year's eve alone this year. I realise that every country has violence but the UK is getting bloody ridiculous - even the middle class and Upper Class areas are filling up with Chavs.
4) Lack of neighbourliness, even in many of the small town/villages. How many people know their neighbours in the UK, or even care?
5) Overcrowded.
6) Despite being overcrowded, over 3 million new homes are being built over the next 25 years.
7) The weather
8) Miserable Brits.
9) Dirt, litter and grafiitti everywhere.
10) Terrible education system. A recent test revealed that the majority of graduates, including at the best universities, can't spell or punctuate properly.
11) Patriotism is lacking/unpc.
12) The government
13) Tony Blair
14) Gordon Brown (a communist).
15) Ridiculous laws.
16) Spitting in the street.
17) Hooliganism.
18) The immigration system - give newly arrived immigrants massive handouts!
19) Terrorism
20) Housing market (so damn expensive).
Tottefan.
IMO probably due to the following:
1) Parents in the UK are so wrapped up in materialism and buying their kids 'nice things' that they forget that children just want love and support.
2) Materialism
3) The complete and total loss of law and order: around 70 people were stabbed on new year's eve alone this year. I realise that every country has violence but the UK is getting bloody ridiculous - even the middle class and Upper Class areas are filling up with Chavs.
4) Lack of neighbourliness, even in many of the small town/villages. How many people know their neighbours in the UK, or even care?
5) Overcrowded.
6) Despite being overcrowded, over 3 million new homes are being built over the next 25 years.
7) The weather
8) Miserable Brits.
9) Dirt, litter and grafiitti everywhere.
10) Terrible education system. A recent test revealed that the majority of graduates, including at the best universities, can't spell or punctuate properly.
11) Patriotism is lacking/unpc.
12) The government
13) Tony Blair
14) Gordon Brown (a communist).
15) Ridiculous laws.
16) Spitting in the street.
17) Hooliganism.
18) The immigration system - give newly arrived immigrants massive handouts!
19) Terrorism
20) Housing market (so damn expensive).
Tottefan.
typical british moaning, all countries have their own problems (the daily mail/sun would have you believe other wise) again i blame the UK media for this. believe it or not but most of the above problems happen in EVERY western country,its just the UK media make out that everything in the UK is crap and everywhere outside of the UK better, hmmmmmmmm think again
Mar 9th 2006, 11:59 pm
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Re: Why do so many people want to emmigrate from the UK?
Originally Posted by celine_uk
typical british moaning, all countries have their own problems (the daily mail/sun would have you believe other wise) again i blame the UK media for this. believe it or not but most of the above problems happen in EVERY western country,its just the UK media make out that everything in the UK is crap and everywhere outside of the UK better, hmmmmmmmm think again
Mar 10th 2006, 12:06 am
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Re: Why do so many people want to emmigrate from the UK?
Originally Posted by tottefan
Statistically, around 80% of Brits return to the UK from NZ.
I reckon the other 20% are on this forum.
Tottefan.
I reckon the other 20% are on this forum.
Tottefan.
Please see the above link and discover you are wrong about 80% of Brits leaving NZ. You will see that Brits are not even in the top 10 departure countries. In fact, they would be in the other group with a 9% or less departure rate in the first three years. I think that means, compared to others Brits may like it in NZ.
Mar 10th 2006, 3:01 am
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Re: Why do so many people want to emmigrate from the UK?
Originally Posted by tottefan
Actually, my post was partly in response to all the negative old farts that seem to be posting on this forum. My point is that NZ may not be perfect, but neither is the UK at present - hence, the reason why many Brits would leave given the chance.
My post doesn't seem any more whiny than any other I've read on here. Could it be that you just happen to disagree with it?
What's happened to this idea of impartiality? It works both ways you know!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tottefan.
But tell me, what are the reasons people also LEAVE NZ?
Or are they not allowed to post that?
Mar 10th 2006, 3:28 am
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Re: Why do so many people want to emmigrate from the UK?
Its also worth remembering that people who are wanting to leave UK at first chance they get, have probably never been to NZ and certainly never lived here, so yes, they are going to think it's this wonderful Paradise and nothing can be as bad as the UK?
But the 'negative old farts' you refer to, have lived in both countries.
So, they are in a better position to judge the two.
Maybe that's why lots return.
But the 'negative old farts' you refer to, have lived in both countries.
So, they are in a better position to judge the two.
Maybe that's why lots return.
Mar 10th 2006, 3:30 am
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Re: Why do so many people want to emmigrate from the UK?
& by the way Tottefan, I agree with lots of things you say about the Uk, and reasons for leaving, its not that I don't disagree.
Mar 10th 2006, 10:55 am
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Re: Why do so many people want to emmigrate from the UK?
Originally Posted by Grayling
I was obviously right
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Mar 10th 2006, 10:56 am
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Re: Why do so many people want to emmigrate from the UK?
Originally Posted by tottefan
Statistically, around 80% of Brits return to the UK from NZ.
I reckon the other 20% are on this forum.
Tottefan.
I reckon the other 20% are on this forum.
Tottefan.
Mar 10th 2006, 10:59 am
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Re: Why do so many people want to emmigrate from the UK?
Originally Posted by ladylisa
We should all appreciate our countries for what they are and be proud of our heritage. That includes New Zealand to.
Mar 10th 2006, 11:56 am
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Re: Why do so many people want to emmigrate from the UK?
Originally Posted by CWEMM02
http://www.emigratenz.org/leaving-New-Zealand.html
Please see the above link and discover you are wrong about 80% of Brits leaving NZ. You will see that Brits are not even in the top 10 departure countries. In fact, they would be in the other group with a 9% or less departure rate in the first three years. I think that means, compared to others Brits may like it in NZ.
Please see the above link and discover you are wrong about 80% of Brits leaving NZ. You will see that Brits are not even in the top 10 departure countries. In fact, they would be in the other group with a 9% or less departure rate in the first three years. I think that means, compared to others Brits may like it in NZ.
Was beginning to think we shouldn't bother sending in our passports for our lovely blue visas, but the truth is out now!!! MOST BRITS STAY IN NZ!!!!!! Phew!!!!
Dave
Mar 10th 2006, 1:22 pm
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Re: Why do so many people want to emmigrate from the UK?
Originally Posted by tottefan
Recent polls have suggested that over half of the British population would like to move abroad.
IMO probably due to the following:
1) Parents in the UK are so wrapped up in materialism and buying their kids 'nice things' that they forget that children just want love and support.
2) Materialism
3) The complete and total loss of law and order: around 70 people were stabbed on new year's eve alone this year. I realise that every country has violence but the UK is getting bloody ridiculous - even the middle class and Upper Class areas are filling up with Chavs.
4) Lack of neighbourliness, even in many of the small town/villages. How many people know their neighbours in the UK, or even care?
5) Overcrowded.
6) Despite being overcrowded, over 3 million new homes are being built over the next 25 years.
7) The weather
8) Miserable Brits.
9) Dirt, litter and grafiitti everywhere.
10) Terrible education system. A recent test revealed that the majority of graduates, including at the best universities, can't spell or punctuate properly.
11) Patriotism is lacking/unpc.
12) The government
13) Tony Blair
14) Gordon Brown (a communist).
15) Ridiculous laws.
16) Spitting in the street.
17) Hooliganism.
18) The immigration system - give newly arrived immigrants massive handouts!
19) Terrorism
20) Housing market (so damn expensive).
Tottefan.
IMO probably due to the following:
1) Parents in the UK are so wrapped up in materialism and buying their kids 'nice things' that they forget that children just want love and support.
2) Materialism
3) The complete and total loss of law and order: around 70 people were stabbed on new year's eve alone this year. I realise that every country has violence but the UK is getting bloody ridiculous - even the middle class and Upper Class areas are filling up with Chavs.
4) Lack of neighbourliness, even in many of the small town/villages. How many people know their neighbours in the UK, or even care?
5) Overcrowded.
6) Despite being overcrowded, over 3 million new homes are being built over the next 25 years.
7) The weather
8) Miserable Brits.
9) Dirt, litter and grafiitti everywhere.
10) Terrible education system. A recent test revealed that the majority of graduates, including at the best universities, can't spell or punctuate properly.
11) Patriotism is lacking/unpc.
12) The government
13) Tony Blair
14) Gordon Brown (a communist).
15) Ridiculous laws.
16) Spitting in the street.
17) Hooliganism.
18) The immigration system - give newly arrived immigrants massive handouts!
19) Terrorism
20) Housing market (so damn expensive).
Tottefan.
Mar 10th 2006, 2:14 pm
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Re: Why do so many people want to emmigrate from the UK?
Originally Posted by tottefan
Recent polls have suggested that over half of the British population would like to move abroad.
IMO probably due to the following:
1) Parents in the UK are so wrapped up in materialism and buying their kids 'nice things' that they forget that children just want love and support.
2) Materialism
3) The complete and total loss of law and order: around 70 people were stabbed on new year's eve alone this year. I realise that every country has violence but the UK is getting bloody ridiculous - even the middle class and Upper Class areas are filling up with Chavs.
4) Lack of neighbourliness, even in many of the small town/villages. How many people know their neighbours in the UK, or even care?
5) Overcrowded.
6) Despite being overcrowded, over 3 million new homes are being built over the next 25 years.
7) The weather
8) Miserable Brits.
9) Dirt, litter and grafiitti everywhere.
10) Terrible education system. A recent test revealed that the majority of graduates, including at the best universities, can't spell or punctuate properly.
11) Patriotism is lacking/unpc.
12) The government
13) Tony Blair
14) Gordon Brown (a communist).
15) Ridiculous laws.
16) Spitting in the street.
17) Hooliganism.
18) The immigration system - give newly arrived immigrants massive handouts!
19) Terrorism
20) Housing market (so damn expensive).
Tottefan.
IMO probably due to the following:
1) Parents in the UK are so wrapped up in materialism and buying their kids 'nice things' that they forget that children just want love and support.
2) Materialism
3) The complete and total loss of law and order: around 70 people were stabbed on new year's eve alone this year. I realise that every country has violence but the UK is getting bloody ridiculous - even the middle class and Upper Class areas are filling up with Chavs.
4) Lack of neighbourliness, even in many of the small town/villages. How many people know their neighbours in the UK, or even care?
5) Overcrowded.
6) Despite being overcrowded, over 3 million new homes are being built over the next 25 years.
7) The weather
8) Miserable Brits.
9) Dirt, litter and grafiitti everywhere.
10) Terrible education system. A recent test revealed that the majority of graduates, including at the best universities, can't spell or punctuate properly.
11) Patriotism is lacking/unpc.
12) The government
13) Tony Blair
14) Gordon Brown (a communist).
15) Ridiculous laws.
16) Spitting in the street.
17) Hooliganism.
18) The immigration system - give newly arrived immigrants massive handouts!
19) Terrorism
20) Housing market (so damn expensive).
Tottefan.