What is it with this obsession with guns?
Jan 18th 2007, 6:28 pm
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Re: What is it with this obsession with guns?
Jan 18th 2007, 8:17 pm
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Re: What is it with this obsession with guns?
I used to hunt when I was younger, but probably wouldn't now (except maybe duckshooting).
Whether you agree with it or not, the fact that a lot of blokes enjoy hunting should not be that hard to understand. It is the result of thousands of years of genetic breeding. Men who were good at hunting tended to survive and flourish, and their genes were continued.
Just because we can buy meat now from a supermarket doesn't change the way we are. There is something to be said for men having an outlet for their naturally aggressive tendencies, rather than the violence you can see at pub closing time.
That said, blowing the **** out of animals does seem a bit bloodthirsty, and perhaps indicates a lack of respect for both the danger of the firearms, and the target animal.
But on the whole, I have more respect for the morality of hunters who kill animals and take the meat, when the alternative is that we all buy lumps of protein wrapped in plastic off a shelf in a shop owned by Walmart, Woolworths or whoever.
Whether you agree with it or not, the fact that a lot of blokes enjoy hunting should not be that hard to understand. It is the result of thousands of years of genetic breeding. Men who were good at hunting tended to survive and flourish, and their genes were continued.
Just because we can buy meat now from a supermarket doesn't change the way we are. There is something to be said for men having an outlet for their naturally aggressive tendencies, rather than the violence you can see at pub closing time.
That said, blowing the **** out of animals does seem a bit bloodthirsty, and perhaps indicates a lack of respect for both the danger of the firearms, and the target animal.
But on the whole, I have more respect for the morality of hunters who kill animals and take the meat, when the alternative is that we all buy lumps of protein wrapped in plastic off a shelf in a shop owned by Walmart, Woolworths or whoever.
Jan 18th 2007, 10:09 pm
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Re: What is it with this obsession with guns?
I used to hunt when I was younger, but probably wouldn't now (except maybe duckshooting).
Whether you agree with it or not, the fact that a lot of blokes enjoy hunting should not be that hard to understand. It is the result of thousands of years of genetic breeding. Men who were good at hunting tended to survive and flourish, and their genes were continued.
Just because we can buy meat now from a supermarket doesn't change the way we are. There is something to be said for men having an outlet for their naturally aggressive tendencies, rather than the violence you can see at pub closing time.
That said, blowing the **** out of animals does seem a bit bloodthirsty, and perhaps indicates a lack of respect for both the danger of the firearms, and the target animal.
But on the whole, I have more respect for the morality of hunters who kill animals and take the meat, when the alternative is that we all buy lumps of protein wrapped in plastic off a shelf in a shop owned by Walmart, Woolworths or whoever.
Whether you agree with it or not, the fact that a lot of blokes enjoy hunting should not be that hard to understand. It is the result of thousands of years of genetic breeding. Men who were good at hunting tended to survive and flourish, and their genes were continued.
Just because we can buy meat now from a supermarket doesn't change the way we are. There is something to be said for men having an outlet for their naturally aggressive tendencies, rather than the violence you can see at pub closing time.
That said, blowing the **** out of animals does seem a bit bloodthirsty, and perhaps indicates a lack of respect for both the danger of the firearms, and the target animal.
But on the whole, I have more respect for the morality of hunters who kill animals and take the meat, when the alternative is that we all buy lumps of protein wrapped in plastic off a shelf in a shop owned by Walmart, Woolworths or whoever.
If I'm honest, it's not a concept that has worried me about moving from the UK to NZ.
Jan 18th 2007, 10:11 pm
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Re: What is it with this obsession with guns?
Sadly, IMHO, gun culture, whether legalized ownership or gang culture/not registered, exists on a quite frightening basis across the Globe? It can not be governed, because criminals will import/export as they will/can. I have no doubt there's an element of this in NZ as there is, as I've said, Globally. Such is life.
If I'm honest, it's not a concept that has worried me about moving from the UK to NZ.
If I'm honest, it's not a concept that has worried me about moving from the UK to NZ.
Jan 18th 2007, 10:22 pm
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Re: What is it with this obsession with guns?
Ok, that last bit was a lie.
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Jan 18th 2007, 10:35 pm
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Re: What is it with this obsession with guns?
The men that were good at raising crops, developing agrarian economies and trading partnerships flourished, cave men died out when they picked the meat of the last sabre tooth tiger from their canines 
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Nah, this is just blokes liking to blow the **** out of anything with the largest BFG they can get their hands on, the chances of being able to eat what remains are pretty slim.
Outlet for aggressive tendencies? that's what Rugby's for isn't it?
.Nah, this is just blokes liking to blow the **** out of anything with the largest BFG they can get their hands on, the chances of being able to eat what remains are pretty slim.
Outlet for aggressive tendencies? that's what Rugby's for isn't it?
Jan 18th 2007, 10:41 pm
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Re: What is it with this obsession with guns?
The men that were good at raising crops, developing agrarian economies and trading partnerships flourished, cave men died out when they picked the meat of the last sabre tooth tiger from their canines .
Nah, this is just blokes liking to blow the **** out of anything with the largest BFG they can get their hands on, the chances of being able to eat what remains are pretty slim.
Outlet for aggressive tendencies? that's what Rugby's for isn't it?
.Nah, this is just blokes liking to blow the **** out of anything with the largest BFG they can get their hands on, the chances of being able to eat what remains are pretty slim.
Outlet for aggressive tendencies? that's what Rugby's for isn't it?
Jan 18th 2007, 10:57 pm
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Re: What is it with this obsession with guns?
The only "true" hunters on the planet are animals. The thread title suggests an out of control gangland culture with shooting people, an ungoverned, black market in arms trading. So this isn't want you're saying. Tis boys playing at being hunter, gathere, provider and the, no doubt, ever increasing homicide within even Fab NZ occassionally?
When I spent a year living in North Notts, we were out for a walk one day and happened to find ourselves in the middle of a hunt. Bloody scary it was.
Jan 18th 2007, 10:58 pm
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Re: What is it with this obsession with guns?
Does it 
. When was gangland culture mentioned?
I was commenting on the fact that so many people own guns and that there are so many nasty weapons in this fair land.
Also that some men seem to get a great deal of pleasure out of blasting animals just for the sake of it. It could be out of some ancient primeval need to put meat on the table as Southerner suggested. I think it's because they get a kick out of it. If they need an outlet for aggression then there are contact sports.
Then there is the thriving gang land culture
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. When was gangland culture mentioned?I was commenting on the fact that so many people own guns and that there are so many nasty weapons in this fair land.
Also that some men seem to get a great deal of pleasure out of blasting animals just for the sake of it. It could be out of some ancient primeval need to put meat on the table as Southerner suggested. I think it's because they get a kick out of it. If they need an outlet for aggression then there are contact sports.
Then there is the thriving gang land culture
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Jan 18th 2007, 11:03 pm
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Re: What is it with this obsession with guns?
Pretty much. I have never heard anyone talk of shooting animals, I guess you have to live in the right part of the country for that.
When I spent a year living in North Notts, we were out for a walk one day and happened to find ourselves in the middle of a hunt. Bloody scary it was.
When I spent a year living in North Notts, we were out for a walk one day and happened to find ourselves in the middle of a hunt. Bloody scary it was.
Not sure if I agree with the what you say about being in the right part of the country, hence the reason for mentioning the gun shop on the North Shore. The people I know travel far and wide to get their "sport" and some even pay for the pleasure of taking down a few deer.