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Old Feb 27th 2011, 11:25 pm
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It's no secret that NZ is struggling to retain its people, with more than a 1,000 a week leaving for Australia alone. The Christchurch earthquake isn't going to help that outflow, sooooo... what about a Ten Pound Poms scheme?

Not particularly restricted to the UK, just a general push to get more people into NZ quickly.

No idea if its a good/bad/indifferent idea, just thinking out loud really.
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Old Feb 28th 2011, 12:49 am
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I´d rather have a limited number of those who want to come and have skills required than a bigger number attracted by a cheap fares scheme. It isn´t just about headcount, look where uncontrolled headcount increase has got the UK. Or China.
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I´d rather have a limited number of those who want to come and have skills required than a bigger number attracted by a cheap fares scheme. It isn´t just about headcount, look where uncontrolled headcount increase has got the UK. Or China.
The only thing I would say to that is, a least looking at it from Australia, NZ looks like it could do with a big influx of people... and NZ is light years away from the population of the UK.

There may be many people in the UK who don't have the required skills, or don't meet age requirements, who would jump at the chance of a move to NZ... and bring an influx of people and cash at a time when you seem to need it.

Perhaps a relaxation of the current requirements then?
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No! We still need quality over quantity. One of the delights of living here is the small population
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Originally Posted by cappuccino
No! We still need quality over quantity. One of the delights of living here is the small population
I can understand that view, not sure its sustainable long term though, with the NZ Gov predicting a falling population in the future. Those predictions predate the latest economic problems in NZ and the earthquake which will probably make things 'worse'.
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I’m not sure I would want the type who would only pay 10 quid for a flight.

Most people leave New Zealand because there are better job prospects elsewhere, if we addressed that problem alone we could retain our talent and attract from elsewhere.

A few ideas:
- Allow tax breaks on direct foreign investment and reinvestment. As long as your money stays with us we are happy to let you do as you please and will not tax you for it (but if you pull the plug on us a large chunk of it is ours).
- Make it more tax efficient for New Zealanders to invest in New Zealand businesses and make Kiwisaver tax free for locals.
- Decide which graduates are really worth it for New Zealand and offer free/reduced fees in tertiary education in those professions (depending on what we can afford).
- Offer scheme that get young people into owning their own basic housing by backing once off nothing/little down type mortgages at reasonable interest rates. If people own a chunk of New Zealand they will be more likely to work hard and stay here (maybe even offer the same terms to young professionals from other countries?).
- Pay civil servants well, if you want the best people you have to pay commensurate wages.
- Have a national plan with targets that spans at least two generations and make it happen. It should include all areas of government from treasury to cultural affairs.
- Decentralise government departments (both to diversify the risk of a natural disaster and spread employment throughout the country).

Of course if you think these things will happen you are living in a bloody dream world , this is New Zealand.
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With already something near to 7% unemployed, what will this hypothetical influx of new migrants do for a living? The last thing this country needs is more landlords and cashed up lifestylers or pretendy trendy farmers.
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With already something near to 7% unemployed, what will this hypothetical influx of new migrants do for a living? The last thing this country needs is more landlords and cashed up lifestylers or pretendy trendy farmers.
NZ could do with more of anybody who is 'cashed up'.
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Originally Posted by cappuccino
No! We still need quality over quantity.
Why move the goalposts now?
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It's a tricky one. On the one hand I don't want any more people here. On the other I worry about the place long term.
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Originally Posted by Charismatic
I’m not sure I would want the type who would only pay 10 quid for a flight.
Ditto.....they're the sort we all leave the UK to get away from!
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Originally Posted by Charismatic
I’m not sure I would want the type who would only pay 10 quid for a flight.
Originally Posted by sirplug
Ditto.....they're the sort we all leave the UK to get away from!
No snobbery here then. !!
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Originally Posted by sirplug
Ditto.....they're the sort we all leave the UK to get away from!
Exactly, wealthy cnuts .
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No. I married a Kiwi and spent the best years of my youth with him, bore him 4 kids and moved here on the back of his citizenship.

I'd never have got in to NZ without his birthright.

He's worked 4 months in 4 years since we got here. We have since gone our separate ways.

But I feel more privileged to live here than he ever has and still had to go through the medicals and police checks etc to be allowed in. And I'd worked 3.5 years out of the 4.

10 pound Poms "may" encourage bludgers and needless to say from my own personal experience that does not sit well with me ...
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Originally Posted by cappuccino
No! We still need quality over quantity. One of the delights of living here is the small population
One of the things which is drawing me to NZ.
I think they should carry on calling for skilled people and keep the spongers out. We know what happens when you let anyone and everyone into a country eh..
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