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4pommes Jan 26th 2010 8:03 am

Teacher training...UK or NZ
 
My Early Years Education qualifications don't mean much in NZ so I'll have to retrain as a Primary Teacher.

I could train in the UK, 4 years or NZ similar timescale.

Anyone any experiences of NZ teacher training??

Thanks!!

MOSO Jan 26th 2010 9:58 pm

Re: Teacher training...UK or NZ
 
Hi (again!)

I would say, if you ultimately want to settle and teach in NZ then it makes sense to train in NZ as schools are different here. If you're coming to the north island then the University of Waikato does a 3 year extramural course or Massey University in Wellington do it in 4 years. Victoria University in Wellington also do it, but not extramurally.

My 1st year starts on 15th Feb so I can let you know what it's like next month.

4pommes Jan 27th 2010 8:46 am

Re: Teacher training...UK or NZ
 
Thanks for the reply.

I've noticed that there's a skills shortage of early years teachers, which is my preference. I do have a NVQ Level 4 Early Years/Child Care and education but guess this is unsuitable.....I would need the Bachelor of Education (Teaching) - Early Years (Birth to Eight) (BEd(Tchg) Early Years) .

If so then my only option would be to train in NZ...course costs £9500!!!

Not even sure which visa to apply for yet as different options at high prices! All depends on where I train and when.....could apply as sibling but may take over 2 years....

RobClubley Jan 27th 2010 6:35 pm

Re: Teacher training...UK or NZ
 
My wife did the one year post-graduate teaching course in Wellington and has been teaching primary for 2 years now. She just got her full registration.

Apparently an NZ qualification lets you teach anywhere in the world.

The student loan for the course fees will be paid eventually! :)

dave77 Jan 27th 2010 11:08 pm

Re: Teacher training...UK or NZ
 

Originally Posted by RobClubley (Post 8287883)
My wife did the one year post-graduate teaching course in Wellington and has been teaching primary for 2 years now. She just got her full registration.

Apparently an NZ qualification lets you teach anywhere in the world.

The student loan for the course fees will be paid eventually! :)

Sorry for cutting in on this thread :o

Rob, my wife is looking at doing the 1 year post grad course when/if we finally arrive in ChCh! NZ doesn't recognise her UK teaching quals (Graduate Teachers Program not PGCE) :(

Just wondered what the entry requirements are for the course? My wife got a 2:2 in her UK degree and I'm worried it may not be enough for entry onto the course :fingerscrossed:

How did she find the course?

RobClubley Jan 27th 2010 11:56 pm

Re: Teacher training...UK or NZ
 

Originally Posted by dave77 (Post 8288704)
Sorry for cutting in on this thread :o

Rob, my wife is looking at doing the 1 year post grad course when/if we finally arrive in ChCh! NZ doesn't recognise her UK teaching quals (Graduate Teachers Program not PGCE) :(

Just wondered what the entry requirements are for the course? My wife got a 2:2 in her UK degree and I'm worried it may not be enough for entry onto the course :fingerscrossed:

How did she find the course?

I might be wrong but I think as long as you have a degree that's the thing for getting onto the course. Melanie got either a 2:1 or a 2:2, can't remember.

She enjoyed the course - there was 18 weeks of being in NZ schools, several weeks of it being in charge of the class, plus lots of lectures and coursework so it's pretty hard work.

Cadibel Jan 28th 2010 6:03 am

Re: Teacher training...UK or NZ
 

Originally Posted by RobClubley (Post 8287883)
My wife did the one year post-graduate teaching course in Wellington and has been teaching primary for 2 years now. She just got her full registration.

Apparently an NZ qualification lets you teach anywhere in the world.

The student loan for the course fees will be paid eventually! :)

Just met a NZ teacher who said her NZ qualirication wasn't recognised in the UK :confused:- so if you plan to go back to the UK - you would have to retrain. If you had a UK degree + PGCE or BEd, these are recognised by the NZQA so you wouldn't need any further training in NZ.

Heavenlyscent Jan 28th 2010 12:00 pm

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Originally Posted by Cadibel (Post 8289496)
Just met a NZ teacher who said her NZ qualirication wasn't recognised in the UK :confused:- so if you plan to go back to the UK - you would have to retrain. If you had a UK degree + PGCE or BEd, these are recognised by the NZQA so you wouldn't need any further training in NZ.

I hold a History Degree, the Post Graduate Certificate in Education FE (UK qualifications) and New Zealand doesn't recognise the PGCE!!! I was in New Zealand for 2 years and could not get work!!! It is not as easy as some people think!

4pommes Jan 28th 2010 12:25 pm

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It's so confusing isn't it!! NZ courses give me the choice of Diploma, Degree or postgrad 1 year (if I do a degree here).....

doesn't help when hubby gets cold feet because his mum will fall apart when we tell her.......

dave77 Jan 28th 2010 12:51 pm

Re: Teacher training...UK or NZ
 

Originally Posted by Heavenlyscent (Post 8290271)
I hold a History Degree, the Post Graduate Certificate in Education FE (UK qualifications) and New Zealand doesn't recognise the PGCE!!! I was in New Zealand for 2 years and could not get work!!! It is not as easy as some people think!

OMG :eek: I thought PGCE was accepted by NZQA, thats ridiculous!

You would think the 2 countries would have some mutual agreement between them about teaching quals, surely it would be in their interests :confused:

I think Mrs Dave77 will definitely be doing her teacher training in NZ, hopefully it will give her links with some primary schools too:fingerscrossed:

Cadibel Jan 29th 2010 2:25 am

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Originally Posted by dave77 (Post 8290403)
OMG :eek: I thought PGCE was accepted by NZQA, thats ridiculous!

You would think the 2 countries would have some mutual agreement between them about teaching quals, surely it would be in their interests :confused:

I think Mrs Dave77 will definitely be doing her teacher training in NZ, hopefully it will give her links with some primary schools too:fingerscrossed:

I think there's been a bit of misunderstanding here:blink: NZ DO recognise the PGCE - I know because I had mine recognised by NZQA and am currently working at a school in Auckland;) I think the qual refused was a FE PGCE (apologies if I got this wrong Heavenlyscent!) If you have a Secondary PGCE or Primary PGCE, it would be accepted (I have a PGCE in Secondary Education)

HTH!

Cadibel

UKNZAUS Jan 30th 2010 6:51 pm

Re: Teacher training...UK or NZ
 

Originally Posted by 4pommes (Post 8282777)
My Early Years Education qualifications don't mean much in NZ so I'll have to retrain as a Primary Teacher.

I could train in the UK, 4 years or NZ similar timescale.

Anyone any experiences of NZ teacher training??

Thanks!!

I'm a 2nd year Massey University student, and am currently studying for a Bachelor of Education (Teaching) Early Years (Birth to 8). My degree is a 3yr one, but it changed last year to now being a 4yr course. I did start studying for a Diploma of Teaching Early Childhood Education but transferred to study for a degree instead as it's the same amount of work, but you earn more with a degree and the Diploma isn't worth anything outside of NZ!!

I study extramurally, even though I could be an internal, as it means I'm always around for my kids if they're ill etc. and am really enjoying it. I've also been offered a job once I'm finished and this was from my 1st placement (which is also my son's Primary school). The thing I've noticed in education in NZ is that it's not what you know, but who you know! Most teachers here come recommended from other teachers.

Anyway, I've rambled enough! If you want/need any more info then just buzz. I'll try and remember to pop back in soon as I don't use these boards very much anymore. Or maybe those who know me on Facebook could let me know if I forget to come back on :o

Michelle

UKNZAUS Jan 30th 2010 6:54 pm

Re: Teacher training...UK or NZ
 

Originally Posted by 4pommes (Post 8286150)
Thanks for the reply.

I've noticed that there's a skills shortage of early years teachers, which is my preference. I do have a NVQ Level 4 Early Years/Child Care and education but guess this is unsuitable.....I would need the Bachelor of Education (Teaching) - Early Years (Birth to Eight) (BEd(Tchg) Early Years) .

If so then my only option would be to train in NZ...course costs £9500!!!

Not even sure which visa to apply for yet as different options at high prices! All depends on where I train and when.....could apply as sibling but may take over 2 years....

NVQs aren't acknowledged here - I found that out the hard way! Sorry, just saw this message after I posted my other. This is the same qualification I'm working towards and it really is a good one! If you do need anything, just holler :)

Heavenlyscent Jan 31st 2010 11:35 am

Re: Teacher training...UK or NZ
 

Originally Posted by Cadibel (Post 8292252)
I think there's been a bit of misunderstanding here:blink: NZ DO recognise the PGCE - I know because I had mine recognised by NZQA and am currently working at a school in Auckland;) I think the qual refused was a FE PGCE (apologies if I got this wrong Heavenlyscent!) If you have a Secondary PGCE or Primary PGCE, it would be accepted (I have a PGCE in Secondary Education)

HTH!

Cadibel

Hi yes u r correct. The PGCE is recognised for Primary and Secondary Education BUT NOT FOR FE (FURTHER EDUCATION AS i STATED. sORRY NOT SHOUTING:)

4pommes Jan 31st 2010 12:21 pm

Re: Teacher training...UK or NZ
 
Ok..I need a degree. Trying to sort this out with OU as open degree.

Would anyone recommend any of these options in particular.......

get degree here then 1 year postgraduate ECE as international student (£10,000) while applying for work to get pr

get degree and PGCE primary here, apply for pr as teacher, get job in NZ and 1 year postgrad ECE.

Thanks!! You are all so helpful!


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