brussels_sprout

No, i will leave further note saying that YOU will pay the bill.
Later, though, i wake up coughing in kitchen realising that you cannot commit suicide by NATURAL gas , so will end up having to pay bill myself grrrrrrr

Karen, i agree with that article you quoted, and you should know more than me, but , at the end of the day 80% of suicides are male, and government is doing nothing about it !


Yes, after what happened to me, i ask myself, why men are treated so badly, you must just picture things the other way round and imagine if the man was the woman and vice versa

Bellasmum

Perhaps we tend to think that suicide is something that only happens in disfunctional families Am Loolah, and we think ours aren't.

I understand that the infamous Prozac that was handed out as the saviour of those clinically depression proved in fact make some feel suicidal.

I was still theatre nursing at Middlemore in acute hours during the 80's and most of the 90's and we used to get a lot of road trauma from the motorway. Once the barriers were put up the numbers dropped quite significantly.

I am not sure if autocide is reconized overseas but it certainly was (and still may be now) in NZ.

What I do know is losing a family member through an accident is very different to losing them by suicide. I guess that may be why some choose autocide. To avoid the family the stigma.

Again that's a societal issue. Only IMHO of course.

I have often wondered if some of the deaths to drugs and alcohol are a result of clinical depression and self medication.

Kiwiprincess

Re suicide being cowardly - I have read a few suicide notes of former clients and to be honest, I have not read one where the person didn't mention that they were killing themselves to make their family more relieved (due to their depressove behaviour, their mood, or whatever), to become less of a burden, to not be a problem etc etc.

They aren't being cowardly. Completely and utterly in need of help, yes. But in many ways they at that stage in their life are honestly of the belief that their action will solve the problem of them being a burden on their family and friends.

I understand that there are difficulties with declaring a death a suicide particularly as it isn't always possible to tell. However, if you subscribe to the idea that a funeral is for the living then I can almost understand why there are problems declaring a death suicide - particularly for cultural and religious reasons.

However, I think there is no excuse for putting ones head in the sand. There is certainly no excuse for a community (local or national) to do so either. To try and put it down to one factor is dangerous.