Speeding fines
Jul 28th 2007, 11:02 am
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Re: Speeding fines
Not very nice belittling usernames is it?
Snake in the grass? Are you refering to those police officers who you may on day turn to help for? The same ones that also volunteer as Fire Fighters, Mountain Rescue, Accident investigation, Civil Defence. Glad didnt tell you what my day time occupation is then
oops now another assumption 
Guess its time to fess up
I got caught speeding once
I was doing 85kph in a 50kph zone along the lakeside of Taupo at 0830am on a Sunday. Road was quite (obviously or I would not have got above 50 
) the police officer who caught me let me off and escorted myself and wife to the hospital at 70kph rather than risk having to deliver my daughter in the back of my car, she was born at 0854am 
Even Firefighters have to adhere to the speed limit heading to the station which with the addrenelin buzz is hard to not to do break.
Final view on speeding is we are to leniant in NZ, we should have 4 strikes and your out and vhiecle confiscation. If your caught speeding then bad luck you got caught because you failed to be observant. Observant to the dangers and the speed limit unless you have reasonable grounds.
Think you will find the fire service figures and those of the police will conflict with that view the age group most at risk is 30-45 the same group mostly caught for speeding.
Snake in the grass? Are you refering to those police officers who you may on day turn to help for? The same ones that also volunteer as Fire Fighters, Mountain Rescue, Accident investigation, Civil Defence. Glad didnt tell you what my day time occupation is then
oops now another assumption Guess its time to fess up
I got caught speeding once
I was doing 85kph in a 50kph zone along the lakeside of Taupo at 0830am on a Sunday. Road was quite (obviously or I would not have got above 50 ) the police officer who caught me let me off and escorted myself and wife to the hospital at 70kph rather than risk having to deliver my daughter in the back of my car, she was born at 0854am Even Firefighters have to adhere to the speed limit heading to the station which with the addrenelin buzz is hard to not to do break.
Final view on speeding is we are to leniant in NZ, we should have 4 strikes and your out and vhiecle confiscation. If your caught speeding then bad luck you got caught because you failed to be observant. Observant to the dangers and the speed limit unless you have reasonable grounds.
Most accidents in NZ are caused by drivers on restricted or license plates, or no license at all - according to the police. So why aren't they the focus?
Last edited by Colin in the middle; Jul 28th 2007 at 12:26 pm.
Jul 28th 2007, 11:22 am
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Re: Speeding fines
Why not just cut my balls off and be done with it?
as my pops used to say: "Rules are for fools, and the guidance of wise men".
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Jul 28th 2007, 9:11 pm
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Re: Speeding fines
If they did a 4 strike and your out thing, think how many people would lose their cars, therefore be out of work, therefore be on benefits. The Government isn't silly, there is no way they could have a point system from stationary cameras like they do in the UK. The WOF thing is so leniant here, because like with the 15 year old drivers, NZ has remained as it was during the war. Although boys are no longer required to drive while their Dad's are at war, people have to rely on their own transport to work. Cops would never be given the power to confiscate cars because of speeding offences.
As you're probably aware, snakes in the grass are traffic cops and I would never have a need for those guys!
As you're probably aware, snakes in the grass are traffic cops and I would never have a need for those guys!
Jul 28th 2007, 9:13 pm
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Incidentally, why do you say I'm belittling your username, I don' t know your first name. All those years of working with the pigs have made you cynical!
Jul 28th 2007, 9:22 pm
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Jul 29th 2007, 1:14 am
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They could take a bus, couldn't they? I realise that for some public transport may be an impossibility. I know in the more rural areas and small towns being carless would be job suicide, but for urban dwellers I think most are addicted to the upholstery in their carbon belching imports. I think for many they could adjust their lives to taking public transport. It would be tough, but tough shit. Most need to get their wide-arses out of their tin cans and get some exercise.
Jul 29th 2007, 1:24 am
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Re: Speeding fines
At any rate, I admit I don't have the answers to either the enforcement of speed limits nor what to do about the mess that the automobile has made of urban areas.
I'm a bit miffed with cars and their operators though because in the past six months I've been clobbered twice by cars while lawfully and carefully riding my bicycle on public roads. My views of drivers are a bit coloured by this.
Jul 29th 2007, 1:33 am
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Happynz you speak with reason, The right to drive is a privilage not a right.
Getting caught once is a wake up call, getting caught twice is unlucky,third or 4th time is plain dumb and you deserve a stiffer penalty to change you habits.
Now would you have got granted a Driving Licence in the first place if you did not obey the road rules during your test?
I wouldnt risk my driving licence living in the Ruaral Location I am with no public transport especially as I have a HT and Passenger licence I spent many hundreds of dollars obtaining. It also scares the hell out of me when some maniac comes flying up unseen behind whilst I ride my pushbike on the open road.
Cynical? Yep knowing that the speeding fines I could have incurred were better spent on these licences and staying in my pocket. Better than being stupid, dead or living with the fact my careless driving killed or maimed someone and brought so much distress to their families.
Maybe you should think about the fact those Motorway Pigs as you call them attend these accidents and have to inform the families that for what ever reason their loved ones have been killed? There job is to prevent this from happening and it has been proven where they actively take a stiff line with motorists the accident rate decreases.
Getting caught once is a wake up call, getting caught twice is unlucky,third or 4th time is plain dumb and you deserve a stiffer penalty to change you habits.
Now would you have got granted a Driving Licence in the first place if you did not obey the road rules during your test?
I wouldnt risk my driving licence living in the Ruaral Location I am with no public transport especially as I have a HT and Passenger licence I spent many hundreds of dollars obtaining. It also scares the hell out of me when some maniac comes flying up unseen behind whilst I ride my pushbike on the open road.
Cynical? Yep knowing that the speeding fines I could have incurred were better spent on these licences and staying in my pocket. Better than being stupid, dead or living with the fact my careless driving killed or maimed someone and brought so much distress to their families.
Maybe you should think about the fact those Motorway Pigs as you call them attend these accidents and have to inform the families that for what ever reason their loved ones have been killed? There job is to prevent this from happening and it has been proven where they actively take a stiff line with motorists the accident rate decreases.
Jul 29th 2007, 2:17 am
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Re: Speeding fines
Transport will always end up being an environmental issue. It's inescapable.
At any rate, I admit I don't have the answers to either the enforcement of speed limits nor what to do about the mess that the automobile has made of urban areas.
I'm a bit miffed with cars and their operators though because in the past six months I've been clobbered twice by cars while lawfully and carefully riding my bicycle on public roads. My views of drivers are a bit coloured by this.
At any rate, I admit I don't have the answers to either the enforcement of speed limits nor what to do about the mess that the automobile has made of urban areas.
I'm a bit miffed with cars and their operators though because in the past six months I've been clobbered twice by cars while lawfully and carefully riding my bicycle on public roads. My views of drivers are a bit coloured by this.
Jul 29th 2007, 2:20 am
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Happynz you speak with reason, The right to drive is a privilage not a right.
Getting caught once is a wake up call, getting caught twice is unlucky,third or 4th time is plain dumb and you deserve a stiffer penalty to change you habits.
Now would you have got granted a Driving Licence in the first place if you did not obey the road rules during your test?
I wouldnt risk my driving licence living in the Ruaral Location I am with no public transport especially as I have a HT and Passenger licence I spent many hundreds of dollars obtaining. It also scares the hell out of me when some maniac comes flying up unseen behind whilst I ride my pushbike on the open road.
Cynical? Yep knowing that the speeding fines I could have incurred were better spent on these licences and staying in my pocket. Better than being stupid, dead or living with the fact my careless driving killed or maimed someone and brought so much distress to their families.
Maybe you should think about the fact those Motorway Pigs as you call them attend these accidents and have to inform the families that for what ever reason their loved ones have been killed? There job is to prevent this from happening and it has been proven where they actively take a stiff line with motorists the accident rate decreases.
Getting caught once is a wake up call, getting caught twice is unlucky,third or 4th time is plain dumb and you deserve a stiffer penalty to change you habits.
Now would you have got granted a Driving Licence in the first place if you did not obey the road rules during your test?
I wouldnt risk my driving licence living in the Ruaral Location I am with no public transport especially as I have a HT and Passenger licence I spent many hundreds of dollars obtaining. It also scares the hell out of me when some maniac comes flying up unseen behind whilst I ride my pushbike on the open road.
Cynical? Yep knowing that the speeding fines I could have incurred were better spent on these licences and staying in my pocket. Better than being stupid, dead or living with the fact my careless driving killed or maimed someone and brought so much distress to their families.
Maybe you should think about the fact those Motorway Pigs as you call them attend these accidents and have to inform the families that for what ever reason their loved ones have been killed? There job is to prevent this from happening and it has been proven where they actively take a stiff line with motorists the accident rate decreases.
Its so cute that police officers are hero's to you. Pulling at my heart strings? Not really, not when most of the 'heros' in blue are ignorant, racist, uneducated sloths. Still, better they spend all day sitting in their little cars with radar guns, rather than real guns. Then we all really would be in trouble.
Jul 29th 2007, 4:32 am
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Re: Speeding fines
You have it bad dont you?
Oh well they gave you a Police Certificate to come to New Zealand so they cant be that bad to you really can they
Oh well they gave you a Police Certificate to come to New Zealand so they cant be that bad to you really can they
Jul 29th 2007, 4:52 am
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Well having read pages of disagreement...all I can say is speeding is wrong, you got tickets because you deserved tickets, kill your speed or kill a child, probably not your own!! Hopefully you will never be in the position where you have a loved one that dies in an accident involving some arrogant twat that speeds, should it be you that is involved in an accident you pretty much get what you deserve.
As for your reference to the police you often find those not educated enough, or intelligent enough criticise as they can never attain such a highly commended profession, no I am not a copper but yes I respect them. Thankfully they are on the front line to protect us and do just that whenever their duty requires them to...so pull your head in littletoe and stop talking out of your AR**!!!!!
As for your reference to the police you often find those not educated enough, or intelligent enough criticise as they can never attain such a highly commended profession, no I am not a copper but yes I respect them. Thankfully they are on the front line to protect us and do just that whenever their duty requires them to...so pull your head in littletoe and stop talking out of your AR**!!!!!
Jul 29th 2007, 5:25 am
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Well having read pages of disagreement...all I can say is speeding is wrong, you got tickets because you deserved tickets, kill your speed or kill a child, probably not your own!! Hopefully you will never be in the position where you have a loved one that dies in an accident involving some arrogant twat that speeds, should it be you that is involved in an accident you pretty much get what you deserve.
As for your reference to the police you often find those not educated enough, or intelligent enough criticise as they can never attain such a highly commended profession, no I am not a copper but yes I respect them. Thankfully they are on the front line to protect us and do just that whenever their duty requires them to...so pull your head in littletoe and stop talking out of your AR**!!!!!
As for your reference to the police you often find those not educated enough, or intelligent enough criticise as they can never attain such a highly commended profession, no I am not a copper but yes I respect them. Thankfully they are on the front line to protect us and do just that whenever their duty requires them to...so pull your head in littletoe and stop talking out of your AR**!!!!!
Jul 29th 2007, 10:48 am
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Jul 29th 2007, 9:20 pm
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I'm a good driver. 16 years I've been on the road, not a single fine - why? Because I don't speed.
Why don't I speed? Because I got knocked over by a Volvo when I was 13 - lucky for me the driver wasn't speeding... it could have been so much worse.
Even my father says I drive like a nana. Yet I still got a ticket. Pisses me off when I don't speed, yet others openly admit they do and appear to get away with it.
Why don't I speed? Because I got knocked over by a Volvo when I was 13 - lucky for me the driver wasn't speeding... it could have been so much worse.
Even my father says I drive like a nana. Yet I still got a ticket. Pisses me off when I don't speed, yet others openly admit they do and appear to get away with it.
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