Schools and more
Mar 29th 2005, 10:05 pm
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my friend will eat you up and make you bitter
I am no Kiwi and you do seem quite snobby to me. Just an opinion, but you try to make us all feel worthless if we can't raise enough money to get a $400k house. I guess we will just have to live with the estate riff raff like ourselves and leave the boy racers to terrorise their own affluent suburbs.
I have seen you being helpful, yes, but I don't like being pigeon-holed into one of your lower socio-economic groups. I think that you were very rude to Shepslady who didn't agree with you and then they came back with a resounding touche. All I did was to applaud the touche part.
So nyeh yah boo sucks to you. Bet my mates can eat your mates
Ali
Mar 29th 2005, 10:13 pm
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Re: Schools and more
Originally Posted by Watt Dabney
If I was looking to buy back home now Id would be looking at somewhere on the outskirts like Kaiapoi or even Rangiora but then thats only because Id like avoid living in the City again.
I live in Kaiapoi and its very nice thankyou very much. Lots of real estate for less than $400K.
I live in Kaiapoi and its very nice thankyou very much. Lots of real estate for less than $400K.
Mar 29th 2005, 10:19 pm
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Re: Schools and more
Originally Posted by Cassa
Steve asked me about area's in CHRISTCHURCH and as I am no expert I gave MY OPINION on area's I have seen and been to. As far as I am aware Kaiapoi is out of Christchruch.
I am so so sorry, I didn't realise you had sole ownership of opinion giving on this thread. Someone mentioned my hometown and i thought I would say I liked it, I seem to remember when I was making the move I wanted to know about lots of areas from lots of people and thought I would offer the same back.
Next time a thread is "yours only" please make it clear somewhere, as I would hate to tread on your little toes again.
Mar 29th 2005, 10:23 pm
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Re: Schools and more
Originally Posted by Damages
Hmm cannibals!!
I am no Kiwi and you do seem quite snobby to me. Just an opinion, but you try to make us all feel worthless if we can't raise enough money to get a $400k house. I guess we will just have to live with the estate riff raff like ourselves and leave the boy racers to terrorise their own affluent suburbs.
I have seen you being helpful, yes, but I don't like being pigeon-holed into one of your lower socio-economic groups. I think that you were very rude to Shepslady who didn't agree with you and then they came back with a resounding touche. All I did was to applaud the touche part.
So nyeh yah boo sucks to you. Bet my mates can eat your mates
Ali
I am no Kiwi and you do seem quite snobby to me. Just an opinion, but you try to make us all feel worthless if we can't raise enough money to get a $400k house. I guess we will just have to live with the estate riff raff like ourselves and leave the boy racers to terrorise their own affluent suburbs.
I have seen you being helpful, yes, but I don't like being pigeon-holed into one of your lower socio-economic groups. I think that you were very rude to Shepslady who didn't agree with you and then they came back with a resounding touche. All I did was to applaud the touche part.
So nyeh yah boo sucks to you. Bet my mates can eat your mates
Ali
I must have clicked onto the wrong website. I thought this was a forum for New Zealand and not the anti snob forum. So what if I am a snob? ???? What does that mean at the end of the day. For goodness sake, grow up. Just because I want a nice house and in a nice area does not mean you have the right to attack what I think.
Mar 29th 2005, 10:28 pm
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Re: Schools and more
Originally Posted by Cassa
Ok first of all do not call me LADY. Second, you have a HUGE chip on your shoulder about where people live and your friends being snobs. I was asked for some by Steve for my opinions on certain things and that is what I gave. I am certainly not going to sit here and have you tell me my nose is too far in the air. You are the kind of person that makes me dislike New Zealand. You have to pick a hole in everything someone says and you have to put your insults in, as if that is what this site is about. Also interested to see that you admit that there were drug problems etc when you were at school, which was over twenty years ago. Cashmere has changed but then you know that as you have attacked me and people you know for living there. I happen to like a view. I don't want to look into other peoples windows. Oh yes, that must mean I am a snob. AND there certainly were no drug, teenage pregnancy problems at my school in Scotland twenty odd years ago.
I am sure that those running this site are not looking for people to witch hunt others and that 'my dear' is what you are doing.
And Damages.... by saying 'well said' at the attack on where I have chosen to live and my opinions is very childish.
I for one will not be back on this board. I thought that whole point of it was to help others (see my offers of helping Steve find hotels etc and giving him property websites) but it seems this board is about kiwi's with HUGE chips ont their shoulders having a go at anyone that dare lives in a nice area or offers any opinion.
Steve, hope the move goes ok and I hope that you don't meet to many Kiwi's like Damages and shepslady. They just go out of their way to be aggressive. Thankfully there are not that many of them. PM if you want any help.
Lapsed Kiwi. Yes it depends on what we call cheap but it you actually read the post before commenting, then you will see Steve has a budget of around the $280K and does not want a big loan on his head. and if you want my honest answer, no I would not live in that house you posted. I hardly think it is big enough for a family of four. If people come here for space and freedom, I do not see that house offering either of those.
So Shepslady, be happy and have the board all to yourself if you wish. I cannot be bothered with petty spats with 40 something, Kiwi's who now live in the USA and want to attack anyone that is different to them. One thing you might want to learn is that everyone is different and just because people want to live in a good area in a nice house and send their children to a good school, does not make them wrong. It just makes them different to you. You must be old enough to understand that. I think it is more to do with a lot of jealously and that my friend will eat you up and make you bitter. Think you might be there already.
I am sure that those running this site are not looking for people to witch hunt others and that 'my dear' is what you are doing.
And Damages.... by saying 'well said' at the attack on where I have chosen to live and my opinions is very childish.
I for one will not be back on this board. I thought that whole point of it was to help others (see my offers of helping Steve find hotels etc and giving him property websites) but it seems this board is about kiwi's with HUGE chips ont their shoulders having a go at anyone that dare lives in a nice area or offers any opinion.
Steve, hope the move goes ok and I hope that you don't meet to many Kiwi's like Damages and shepslady. They just go out of their way to be aggressive. Thankfully there are not that many of them. PM if you want any help.
Lapsed Kiwi. Yes it depends on what we call cheap but it you actually read the post before commenting, then you will see Steve has a budget of around the $280K and does not want a big loan on his head. and if you want my honest answer, no I would not live in that house you posted. I hardly think it is big enough for a family of four. If people come here for space and freedom, I do not see that house offering either of those.
So Shepslady, be happy and have the board all to yourself if you wish. I cannot be bothered with petty spats with 40 something, Kiwi's who now live in the USA and want to attack anyone that is different to them. One thing you might want to learn is that everyone is different and just because people want to live in a good area in a nice house and send their children to a good school, does not make them wrong. It just makes them different to you. You must be old enough to understand that. I think it is more to do with a lot of jealously and that my friend will eat you up and make you bitter. Think you might be there already.
I didnt go to Cashmere High, I went to a Girls High School & when I was at school there were no drug problems. I said when my children were at high school when the drug problem started & no my children didnt do drugs & never have! I agree with you about everyone being different hence the reason I said you dont have to live in a snobby area to have a nice house or for your children to attend a good school. Why you would possibly think I am jealous I have no idea, Im very happy with my life,l my family & my friends. Yes I might be a 40 something Kiwi but these are the best years of my life. My children are all grown & very sucessful happy people & Im experiencing new things everyday so I am far from bitter. My apologies for referring to you as a lady but you could say we are even now by your referring to me as "friend"..... I gave up swallowing bitter pills years ago. Thankfully I learnt a long time ago that material things are not the best way to measure a persons worth. Id rather be pennyless & surrounded by love that have all the money in the world for with love I have all the riches in the world that I will ever need.
No need to flee this forum on my account. I wasnt making a personal attack on you just expressing some opinions that obviously it a nerve so please accept my humble apologies & stick around to enjoy your postings. I shall try to observe in silence just to please you.
Steve I hope our PM's havent been effected by all the silly dribble that has taken place on this forum.
Kaiapoi is very much a part of Christchurch but yes its on the outskirts & only a 15 minute drive from the centre of the City, which some people find enjoyable, kind of like having the best of both worlds, semi country living but within a short driving distance of the city.
Mar 29th 2005, 10:30 pm
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I want a nice house and in a nice area
Mar 29th 2005, 10:40 pm
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Re: Schools and more
Originally Posted by Damages
This is a local shop for local people. We'll have no trouble here
Mar 29th 2005, 10:40 pm
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Re: Schools and more
Originally Posted by Damages
Hmm cannibals!!
I am no Kiwi and you do seem quite snobby to me. Just an opinion, but you try to make us all feel worthless if we can't raise enough money to get a $400k house. I guess we will just have to live with the estate riff raff like ourselves and leave the boy racers to terrorise their own affluent suburbs.
I have seen you being helpful, yes, but I don't like being pigeon-holed into one of your lower socio-economic groups. I think that you were very rude to Shepslady who didn't agree with you and then they came back with a resounding touche. All I did was to applaud the touche part.
So nyeh yah boo sucks to you. Bet my mates can eat your mates
Ali
I am no Kiwi and you do seem quite snobby to me. Just an opinion, but you try to make us all feel worthless if we can't raise enough money to get a $400k house. I guess we will just have to live with the estate riff raff like ourselves and leave the boy racers to terrorise their own affluent suburbs.
I have seen you being helpful, yes, but I don't like being pigeon-holed into one of your lower socio-economic groups. I think that you were very rude to Shepslady who didn't agree with you and then they came back with a resounding touche. All I did was to applaud the touche part.
So nyeh yah boo sucks to you. Bet my mates can eat your mates
Ali
Mar 29th 2005, 10:42 pm
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Re: Schools and more
Originally Posted by Cassa
Sounds like you will settle into New Zealand really well. Your mind seems narrow enough.
Mar 29th 2005, 11:20 pm
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Thanks shepslady.
From one of the richest.
Cassa,
The mind is only narrow at the front, it broadens like a wedge (after the razor wit of the cutting edge).
Good luck in UK. I bear no ill will.
From one of the richest.
Cassa,
The mind is only narrow at the front, it broadens like a wedge (after the razor wit of the cutting edge).
Good luck in UK. I bear no ill will.
Mar 30th 2005, 5:35 am
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Re: Schools and more
Whoa, steady on folks, this debate is getting out of hand - chill! We all have the right to an opinion - no need to let it get too personal!
I thank everyone who has offered an opinion here since it is very important that we find out as much as we can about schools, cost of living etc. before we make any decision to move here. I´m glad I´ll have the opportunity to visit for a short time and that´s why ALL of your opinions are helpful - it really does help to have some names of areas that people feel are pleasant to live in and with good schooling attached. Whether or not we can afford all of them is another matter but it´s good to know what the options are. There does not seem to be a clear consensus since peoples expectations differ and in any case the problems seem to differ from area to area, but at least I have the names of some places to check out - thanks again.
I would be interested to hear your opinions on "no go" areas in Christchurch - are there any areas where you would definitely not live?
(BTW, replies like "Where XXX lives" would not be very useful...!!! )
We all have the right to an opinion - no need to let it get too personal!I thank everyone who has offered an opinion here since it is very important that we find out as much as we can about schools, cost of living etc. before we make any decision to move here. I´m glad I´ll have the opportunity to visit for a short time and that´s why ALL of your opinions are helpful - it really does help to have some names of areas that people feel are pleasant to live in and with good schooling attached. Whether or not we can afford all of them is another matter but it´s good to know what the options are. There does not seem to be a clear consensus since peoples expectations differ and in any case the problems seem to differ from area to area, but at least I have the names of some places to check out - thanks again.
I would be interested to hear your opinions on "no go" areas in Christchurch - are there any areas where you would definitely not live?
(BTW, replies like "Where XXX lives" would not be very useful...!!!
)
Mar 30th 2005, 6:26 am
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Re: Schools and more
Originally Posted by SteveDK
Whoa, steady on folks, this debate is getting out of hand - chill! We all have the right to an opinion - no need to let it get too personal!
I thank everyone who has offered an opinion here since it is very important that we find out as much as we can about schools, cost of living etc. before we make any decision to move here. I´m glad I´ll have the opportunity to visit for a short time and that´s why ALL of your opinions are helpful - it really does help to have some names of areas that people feel are pleasant to live in and with good schooling attached. Whether or not we can afford all of them is another matter but it´s good to know what the options are. There does not seem to be a clear consensus since peoples expectations differ and in any case the problems seem to differ from area to area, but at least I have the names of some places to check out - thanks again.
I would be interested to hear your opinions on "no go" areas in Christchurch - are there any areas where you would definitely not live?
(BTW, replies like "Where XXX lives" would not be very useful...!!! )
We all have the right to an opinion - no need to let it get too personal!I thank everyone who has offered an opinion here since it is very important that we find out as much as we can about schools, cost of living etc. before we make any decision to move here. I´m glad I´ll have the opportunity to visit for a short time and that´s why ALL of your opinions are helpful - it really does help to have some names of areas that people feel are pleasant to live in and with good schooling attached. Whether or not we can afford all of them is another matter but it´s good to know what the options are. There does not seem to be a clear consensus since peoples expectations differ and in any case the problems seem to differ from area to area, but at least I have the names of some places to check out - thanks again.
I would be interested to hear your opinions on "no go" areas in Christchurch - are there any areas where you would definitely not live?
(BTW, replies like "Where XXX lives" would not be very useful...!!!
)I do know a wonderful hotel that you will enjoy staying in when over. We stayed for three weeks when we arrived. Its really chilled and its not expensive on the UK£. Right in the heart of the city, so good for your wife to see what is there. I also know a really nice lady who helped us buy our house, who would be more than happy to show you some properties. That is generally the way it works here.
Mar 30th 2005, 6:48 am
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Re: Schools and more
Originally Posted by Cassa
Hi, I live in Cashmere and i know of people moving here because of the good schools. Also we have a lovely cafe and a few little shops, includiing post office a few min walk. Cashmere is on the hill and the views are stunning. Christchurch, in fact Canterbury, is very flat so it is nice to have a view. Lots of families here. Both our neighbours have two children, all at the local schools.
The other good areas are Fendalton and Merivale. They are the most expensive areas. Although the snob value exists there and its the place people seems to want to live, the houses are pretty close together and they are very close to the city centre. This might be a plus for you but not for us.
I also reallly liked Sumner. It is near the beach. Houses very expensive there now but really lovely place to live.
To be really honest, I don't think that you will get much in a good area for less than $400K. Have a look at www.harcourts.co.nz and you will get a good idea of what you can get.
If you need any help at all please let me know. If you want details of hotels for when you come over I would be happy to help.
There are lots of bad, lower social economic area's that when I drive through I feel quite depressed but there are also some lovely tree lined streets on up and coming area's. My friends live in St Albans and have a lovely house there and they paid $350K for it. Its small but cosy and lovely street and garden.
I dont know much about the area's outside Christchurch. Sorry.
The other good areas are Fendalton and Merivale. They are the most expensive areas. Although the snob value exists there and its the place people seems to want to live, the houses are pretty close together and they are very close to the city centre. This might be a plus for you but not for us.
I also reallly liked Sumner. It is near the beach. Houses very expensive there now but really lovely place to live.
To be really honest, I don't think that you will get much in a good area for less than $400K. Have a look at www.harcourts.co.nz and you will get a good idea of what you can get.
If you need any help at all please let me know. If you want details of hotels for when you come over I would be happy to help.
There are lots of bad, lower social economic area's that when I drive through I feel quite depressed but there are also some lovely tree lined streets on up and coming area's. My friends live in St Albans and have a lovely house there and they paid $350K for it. Its small but cosy and lovely street and garden.
I dont know much about the area's outside Christchurch. Sorry.
People, why is it that you take such offence at New Zealand having any bad areas or any problems???? Its a running theme on this forum in general. Every where in the world has bad area's. Rather than ignoring them and calling everyone else a snob, should we not be honest and upfront. I also think that it is VERY realisitic to say that a decent size property in a good area will cost $400K. That is REALISITIC and not being a snob.
Mar 30th 2005, 1:59 pm
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Re: Schools and more
Originally Posted by Cassa
I am reading over what I initially said and cannot see anything wrong with it. Why should we pretend that Christchurch does not have bad areas? No one put a stamp in my passport on arrival to say that I was not allowed to say anything bad about the country...... People, why is it that you take such offence at New Zealand having any bad areas or any problems???? Its a running theme on this forum in general. Every where in the world has bad area's. Rather than ignoring them and calling everyone else a snob, should we not be honest and upfront. I also think that it is VERY realisitic to say that a decent size property in a good area will cost $400K. That is REALISITIC and not being a snob.
People, why is it that you take such offence at New Zealand having any bad areas or any problems???? Its a running theme on this forum in general. Every where in the world has bad area's. Rather than ignoring them and calling everyone else a snob, should we not be honest and upfront. I also think that it is VERY realisitic to say that a decent size property in a good area will cost $400K. That is REALISITIC and not being a snob.Being "realistic" with your $400K that is why I suggested looking on the outskirts of town with places like Kaiapoi & Rangiora due to the fact that one can purchase very nice homes in these areas, often with plenty of land attached for considerably less than $400K.
As for taking offense, I did no such thing. You are perfectly entitled to say what you like as I am entitled to disagree. You are obviously happy living where you are now otherwise you would have packed up your belongings & headed home by now & despite what you may think of me, I really do wish you & yours well & hope that things work out for you. It was never my intention for you to take this as a personal attack on you & really do think its just best that we just admit that we are never going to agree on this & move on. Im sure there is room on this forum for the two of us to give our honest opinions & advice in our own ways. I wont name areas that arent so good but will say I personally would avoid some of the eastern suburbs!
Enough said, its time for me to go enjoy some of the beautiful day that has been bestowed on me today
Mar 30th 2005, 4:50 pm
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An interesting and valid point was made above re: rates, no good stretching to the maximum mortgage if one cannot afford the rates on top! Something else to think about. Getting a better idea of what to look for (and where) so thanks again everybody. BTW I stumbled across an online mortgage calculator for NZ properties, have lost the link now though but thought I´d mention it so that others could search if they were interested.
"Good" schools, for me personally (and I suspect most parents) it´s about a good learning environment aimed at getting the best academic standards out of the children. That involves teachers having a positive attitude and good standards of discipline - including zero tolerance to bullying.
I don´t want to pay extra fees! Could do that here in DK or in the UK! Any firm recommendations or comments?
"Good" schools, for me personally (and I suspect most parents) it´s about a good learning environment aimed at getting the best academic standards out of the children. That involves teachers having a positive attitude and good standards of discipline - including zero tolerance to bullying.
I don´t want to pay extra fees! Could do that here in DK or in the UK! Any firm recommendations or comments?