Quality of houses
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Quality of houses
Just been looking at rental houses in the areas surrounding of Wellington, and we were VERY disappointed with the quality, or lack of it, in all the properties we viewed.
We are not looking for a palace, just a 3/4 bed house, however, we are surprised at lack of insulation, no double-glazing or proper heating!! It seems the three essential items we will need are a window scraper, sponge and dehumidifier!
Also, the asking prices for such rental properties are as much, or more than in the UK.......it seems to rent in NZ is a joke!!
Is this the 'normal' house build quality we should expect in NZ??
Allan
We are not looking for a palace, just a 3/4 bed house, however, we are surprised at lack of insulation, no double-glazing or proper heating!! It seems the three essential items we will need are a window scraper, sponge and dehumidifier!
Also, the asking prices for such rental properties are as much, or more than in the UK.......it seems to rent in NZ is a joke!!
Is this the 'normal' house build quality we should expect in NZ??
Allan
#2
Re: Quality of houses
I'm gonna take a stab in the dark and guess that a lot of residences in NZ don't need silly things like central heating and double glazing when it's so lovely and warm.
Someone in Kiwiland can probably confirm...
Someone in Kiwiland can probably confirm...
#3
Re: Quality of houses
Yes it is. Look for a dry heat source (heat pump or log burner), but that is normally the most you will get.
When you come to buy (if you do) then properties on the market may tend to have more insulation but DG and CH - never saw them in all the 50 or so houses we looked at.
However the one we bought is fine, but still can be chilly in the bedrooms (furthest from the heatpump). But hey, we are on Whangaparaoa and on mains water and gas
You DID know lots of NZ houses are on tank (ie rain water off the roof), water.....
When you come to buy (if you do) then properties on the market may tend to have more insulation but DG and CH - never saw them in all the 50 or so houses we looked at.
However the one we bought is fine, but still can be chilly in the bedrooms (furthest from the heatpump). But hey, we are on Whangaparaoa and on mains water and gas
You DID know lots of NZ houses are on tank (ie rain water off the roof), water.....
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Re: Quality of houses
to the OP: sounds about right to me! Don't worry, you'll soon toughen up.
Last edited by ExKiwilass; Jun 7th 2011 at 8:39 pm.
#5
Re: Quality of houses
Unfortunately yes this is the norm - we're in Auckland and it's bad enough, think of those poor peeps down in the south island!
You'll find that if you invest in some heaters of your own that you can take wherever you end up then this is a good option, along with a dehumidifyer.
Also - don't ever be afraid to put cheeky offers on rental properties - we got $200 per week knocked off our rental.
My final bit of advice is although you may be used to a nice new and shiney home, don't rule out the older ones that have been knocked and bashed about a bit - they are much easier at the end of a rental to get your bond back, and especially if you have children you are not constantly worried about what they are doing to the place. By the time you get 'your stuff' in and around you it is easy to make most places feel homely.
You'll find that if you invest in some heaters of your own that you can take wherever you end up then this is a good option, along with a dehumidifyer.
Also - don't ever be afraid to put cheeky offers on rental properties - we got $200 per week knocked off our rental.
My final bit of advice is although you may be used to a nice new and shiney home, don't rule out the older ones that have been knocked and bashed about a bit - they are much easier at the end of a rental to get your bond back, and especially if you have children you are not constantly worried about what they are doing to the place. By the time you get 'your stuff' in and around you it is easy to make most places feel homely.
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Re: Quality of houses
Just been looking at rental houses in the areas surrounding of Wellington, and we were VERY disappointed with the quality, or lack of it, in all the properties we viewed.
We are not looking for a palace, just a 3/4 bed house, however, we are surprised at lack of insulation, no double-glazing or proper heating!! It seems the three essential items we will need are a window scraper, sponge and dehumidifier!
Also, the asking prices for such rental properties are as much, or more than in the UK.......it seems to rent in NZ is a joke!!
Is this the 'normal' house build quality we should expect in NZ??
Allan
We are not looking for a palace, just a 3/4 bed house, however, we are surprised at lack of insulation, no double-glazing or proper heating!! It seems the three essential items we will need are a window scraper, sponge and dehumidifier!
Also, the asking prices for such rental properties are as much, or more than in the UK.......it seems to rent in NZ is a joke!!
Is this the 'normal' house build quality we should expect in NZ??
Allan
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Re: Quality of houses
Just been looking at rental houses in the areas surrounding of Wellington, and we were VERY disappointed with the quality, or lack of it, in all the properties we viewed.
We are not looking for a palace, just a 3/4 bed house, however, we are surprised at lack of insulation, no double-glazing or proper heating!! It seems the three essential items we will need are a window scraper, sponge and dehumidifier!
Also, the asking prices for such rental properties are as much, or more than in the UK.......it seems to rent in NZ is a joke!!
Is this the 'normal' house build quality we should expect in NZ??
Allan
We are not looking for a palace, just a 3/4 bed house, however, we are surprised at lack of insulation, no double-glazing or proper heating!! It seems the three essential items we will need are a window scraper, sponge and dehumidifier!
Also, the asking prices for such rental properties are as much, or more than in the UK.......it seems to rent in NZ is a joke!!
Is this the 'normal' house build quality we should expect in NZ??
Allan
Good luck!
#8
Re: Quality of houses
Houses here are in general, a pretty poor standard compared to what you'll be used to in the UK. There's obviously going to be some that are better and worse (a lot worse!) than others.
Things like central heating and double glazing are rare, certainly in a rental property and lots of homes have no heat source what so ever. Its also not only older homes, my house is 4 years old has single glazing, little insulation and a single small heat pump which barely puts out more heat than a bathroom hand drier.
I am getting used to wearing more clothes indoors than out and have a duvet permanently draped over the sofa for when it gets too cold. The weather may be generally warmer here than south west Scotland but when it hits low single figures outside at night in a cold house I'd give my first born (if I had one!) for some central heating!
Things like central heating and double glazing are rare, certainly in a rental property and lots of homes have no heat source what so ever. Its also not only older homes, my house is 4 years old has single glazing, little insulation and a single small heat pump which barely puts out more heat than a bathroom hand drier.
I am getting used to wearing more clothes indoors than out and have a duvet permanently draped over the sofa for when it gets too cold. The weather may be generally warmer here than south west Scotland but when it hits low single figures outside at night in a cold house I'd give my first born (if I had one!) for some central heating!
#9
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Re: Quality of houses
Most rental places are spectacularly shocking and devoid of creature comforts of the fitted / instant heating kind, the most you might expect is a log burner or perhaps one token, but totally inadequate, heat-pump. Even buying a house I wouldn't expect to be overwhelmed by properties where central heating, insulation and double-glazing are a featured highly and most unlikely to find all three in the same house.
The recent arrivals shouldn't be misled by the relative mildness of weather over recent weeks, which has been the warmest May for over a hundred years.
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Re: Quality of houses
Don't fret Zoolander. As an ex-scot, who has been here for 40 odd years, I can say, in Auckland anyway, it is really not as bad as this thread implies.
Have always lived in a wooden house - ceiling insulation but none in the walls. We have lots of floor length windows which ofcourse let out lots of heat but find themal lining a big help. While central heating and double-glazing would certainly be lovely - warmer and energy saving, I don't think they are an essential. We have gas heating in lounge and hall and use a couple of small oil heaters as needed in other rooms, timer on heater for getting up. Think people from UK have got used to having VERY warm(overwarm?) homes. Seem to think you should be able to wear short sleeves in winter but just putting on a jumper is a big help - maybe not as stylish ofcourse.
However I, like everyone else, moan about the cold but it doesn't actually take long for the house to heat up with the heating on. Don't feel the need to have heaters on overnight - snuggly, sheepskin electric blanket. Also, if it is sunny day our house is quite warm when I get home at 4ish.
Forgot to say Auckland IS damp in winter and a dehumidifier is a big help and does reduce how much heating needed. Also regular airing makes a big difference.
Having said that there are some cold houses and remember you want NORTH facing to take advantage of the sun.
Good luck
Have always lived in a wooden house - ceiling insulation but none in the walls. We have lots of floor length windows which ofcourse let out lots of heat but find themal lining a big help. While central heating and double-glazing would certainly be lovely - warmer and energy saving, I don't think they are an essential. We have gas heating in lounge and hall and use a couple of small oil heaters as needed in other rooms, timer on heater for getting up. Think people from UK have got used to having VERY warm(overwarm?) homes. Seem to think you should be able to wear short sleeves in winter but just putting on a jumper is a big help - maybe not as stylish ofcourse.
However I, like everyone else, moan about the cold but it doesn't actually take long for the house to heat up with the heating on. Don't feel the need to have heaters on overnight - snuggly, sheepskin electric blanket. Also, if it is sunny day our house is quite warm when I get home at 4ish.
Forgot to say Auckland IS damp in winter and a dehumidifier is a big help and does reduce how much heating needed. Also regular airing makes a big difference.
Having said that there are some cold houses and remember you want NORTH facing to take advantage of the sun.
Good luck
#12
Re: Quality of houses
It will depend very much on where you end up living in NZ. Generally speaking the further North the warmer climate. I'm in the Bay of Plenty which is pretty nice all year round. Winters relatively mild, summers long and hot. Far better than where I was in the South/South West of the UK.
But the quality of housing, as others have said, is nothing like the UK. In fact in the winter it is warmer outside than it is in my house quite often. So another recommendation from me would be remember that here you want North facing for sun.
But the quality of housing, as others have said, is nothing like the UK. In fact in the winter it is warmer outside than it is in my house quite often. So another recommendation from me would be remember that here you want North facing for sun.
#14
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So north-facing you say? I'd only ever be aiming at the north island yup - have just had 6 months of winter in Aberdeen. If i never see -15*C again i'll be happy
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#15
Re: Quality of houses
Just been looking at rental houses in the areas surrounding of Wellington, and we were VERY disappointed with the quality, or lack of it, in all the properties we viewed.
We are not looking for a palace, just a 3/4 bed house, however, we are surprised at lack of insulation, no double-glazing or proper heating!! It seems the three essential items we will need are a window scraper, sponge and dehumidifier!
Also, the asking prices for such rental properties are as much, or more than in the UK.......it seems to rent in NZ is a joke!!
Is this the 'normal' house build quality we should expect in NZ??
Allan
We are not looking for a palace, just a 3/4 bed house, however, we are surprised at lack of insulation, no double-glazing or proper heating!! It seems the three essential items we will need are a window scraper, sponge and dehumidifier!
Also, the asking prices for such rental properties are as much, or more than in the UK.......it seems to rent in NZ is a joke!!
Is this the 'normal' house build quality we should expect in NZ??
Allan
Some of the modern homes are better, but not cheap, as you say.