tease

if i have PR status in NZ - which i do - does this give me any rights either now or in the future re living / working in OZ?

Cheers Tease

Woodlea

No. Can't work there or even visit without a proper Oz visa.

Once you get citizenship you can do as you please.

pomref

NO

pomref

New Zealand Citizen's can get a special catogery Visa. Its a tempary visa not PR, so it doesn't give you etilment to apply for Australian Citizenship.

Woodlea

Didn't know that. I thought NZ citizens could come and go and do as they please in Oz? So if an NZ citizen lives in Oz for long enough can't they become an Oz citizen?

Not that they'd want to become a citizen of the fly-blown dust-bowl of course! (Jeez that'll start the slanging match off again, it's been so quiet on here recently, thought I'd have a wee bit of fun) (Off to the fall out shelter now )

JAJ

Not unless they first obtain permanent resident status under Australia's normal rules. It's been that way since early 2001 - most New Zealanders living in Australia at the time are exempted from this new rule.

mingusdynasty

Once you get citizenship you are legally entitled to work in OZ.

JAJ

Once again. That is not in dispute but if you want full permanent resident rights in Australia, New Zealand citizenship in itself is not enough.

mingusdynasty

Good. What benefits are there for a kiwi who gets OZ pr rights? Access to the dole and what else?

JAJ

Access to welfare benefits in general (not just "the dole" as you suggest).

Plus the right to sponsor relatives for permanent residence and automatic Australian citizenship for children born in Australia.

PR is a must in order to become an Australian citizen normally. Without citizenship, there is:

- no right to vote
- no access to federal government employment
- liability to be deported
- no fee discount/deferral schemes for university students
- no right to confer Australian citizenship on non-Australia born children
- no right to an Australian passport

So day to day, being a New Zealand citizen without PR rights isn't a big deal in most cases. But long term it is likely to cause problems for most.

mingusdynasty

Can I sponser my son to come and join me in NZ? He is not a dependent (he's 18). Im a citizen. His mum lives in the UK

kiwi_child

I thought NZ citizens and those with NZ PR did have the right of abode (live and work) in OZ? Weren't the changes in 2001 just to extend the qualifying period for benefits from 6 months to 2 yrs and then at the 2yr mark, encourage NZers to take out PR/OZ citizenship?

The 'special category visa' is virtually an automatic one, granted upon arrival provided the NZ citizen is not of bad character. At least that's what I thought.

P2L

In short the answer is yes

Look here to find out more
http://www.immigration.govt.nz/migra...hatisrequired/

HTH

lardyl

OMG, K_C the Ozzie Police might be after YOU!!!!!???///
You did want to be deported did you not?
After all that $h!t those ruddy ozzies gave on the oz forum I'd have thought so!!
Good on ya for sticking to your guns BTW, they seem like a bunch of drunken bullies to me.

Lenmil

I think Aussies get the better deal between the two countries.