People New Zealand Bound
Apr 26th 2003, 1:04 pm
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People New Zealand Bound
Would like to start some debate concerning New Zealand. The "Get A New Life" is dealing with NZ on May the 6th. So who is heading there and what have been your problems/difficulties?
Apr 26th 2003, 2:09 pm
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We're looking forward to seeing the programme, even though the previous migrants shown seem to have been extremely unprepared and very ambilvalent about their "new lives"! We've been trying to emigrate for 3 years now and both my husband & I have even taken degrees to bump up our points scores..although they've now gone up, so we'll probably need a job offer anyway.
We're going over in June for a proper recce/ factfinding mission (having previously visited NZ in 2001)...I can't understand why the people on these programmes didn't do the same?!
According to the forum though, the NZ people seem to be doing OK.
Does anybody else think that the programme is a really bad advert for the "relocation specialists" - they don't seem to be much help!
We're going over in June for a proper recce/ factfinding mission (having previously visited NZ in 2001)...I can't understand why the people on these programmes didn't do the same?!
According to the forum though, the NZ people seem to be doing OK.
Does anybody else think that the programme is a really bad advert for the "relocation specialists" - they don't seem to be much help!
Apr 26th 2003, 2:21 pm
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Hi, I'm currently looking into the possibility of emigrating to NZ with my family. We've hit a few problems, I don't have enough point to make it through on the skills route so now where looking into the study route. Has any one done this and do you know if you can take families across with you. If not it may mean myself leaving the family to go over and get a job first, this obviously creates lots of problems because my wife can not support the family on her wage along. I just wish it was easier! 
Any advice or encouragement would be greatly received.
Thanks, David
Any advice or encouragement would be greatly received.
Thanks, David
Apr 26th 2003, 3:27 pm
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Hi David
Don't be downhearted, there's always a way around it!
If you're looking at the study route, you need to know how many extra points you'll gain - it's not worth going over to NZ for a qualification there if the points go up again. Also it's an expensive thing to do which may not be necessary. My husband and I have both done degrees to get extra points as our work experience wasn't sufficient by itself. Even so, we'll probably need a job offer to make it, unless the points drop.
What are your circumstances? A UK qualification may be easier to get and less disruptive - my husband completed his degree in one year, having been given advanced standing through work experience.
If you're taking the family with you, a business visa might be another option if you've got the funds and inclination to work that way.
If you supply more info I'll try to give you options.
Cheers, Caz
Don't be downhearted, there's always a way around it!
If you're looking at the study route, you need to know how many extra points you'll gain - it's not worth going over to NZ for a qualification there if the points go up again. Also it's an expensive thing to do which may not be necessary. My husband and I have both done degrees to get extra points as our work experience wasn't sufficient by itself. Even so, we'll probably need a job offer to make it, unless the points drop.
What are your circumstances? A UK qualification may be easier to get and less disruptive - my husband completed his degree in one year, having been given advanced standing through work experience.
If you're taking the family with you, a business visa might be another option if you've got the funds and inclination to work that way.
If you supply more info I'll try to give you options.
Cheers, Caz
Apr 26th 2003, 7:02 pm
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Personally my main concern is this. I think academically, in terms of qualifications I may be able to find my own niche to make a contribution. I think I can cover the personal skills route and gain some points eventually.
However there is an issue that can not be changed, I have extremely mild cerebal palsy.
I have exceptional, practically "normal" mobility, my only difficulty would be competing in team sports, but hardly think that applies. I live a completely, independent, "regular" life. My gait is only slightly altered from a regular pattern and basically constitutes a slight limp. I am capable of participating in everyday life and my gait is only slightly different from what would be considered a "normal" pattern, I am also entirely self-sufficient and not dependent on anyone.
I am not dependent on any form of medication, so therefore would not be a burden on on the health authorities.
I do not use any mobility aids, such as a wheelchair or walking aids and so therefore would not require the need for medical aid once I had arrived.
My condition, however slight a limp will not alter.
What I am trying to say is, even taking into account all the above, and my ability to provide qualifications, would I still more than likely have my application turned down, because if my slight difficulty?
However there is an issue that can not be changed, I have extremely mild cerebal palsy.
I have exceptional, practically "normal" mobility, my only difficulty would be competing in team sports, but hardly think that applies. I live a completely, independent, "regular" life. My gait is only slightly altered from a regular pattern and basically constitutes a slight limp. I am capable of participating in everyday life and my gait is only slightly different from what would be considered a "normal" pattern, I am also entirely self-sufficient and not dependent on anyone.
I am not dependent on any form of medication, so therefore would not be a burden on on the health authorities.
I do not use any mobility aids, such as a wheelchair or walking aids and so therefore would not require the need for medical aid once I had arrived.
My condition, however slight a limp will not alter.
What I am trying to say is, even taking into account all the above, and my ability to provide qualifications, would I still more than likely have my application turned down, because if my slight difficulty?
Apr 26th 2003, 9:26 pm
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Originally posted by N.Finn Fan
Personally my main concern is this. I think academically, in terms of qualifications I may be able to find my own niche to make a contribution. I think I can cover the personal skills route and gain some points eventually.
However there is an issue that can not be changed, I have extremely mild cerebal palsy.
I have exceptional, practically "normal" mobility, my only difficulty would be competing in team sports, but hardly think that applies. I live a completely, independent, "regular" life. My gait is only slightly altered from a regular pattern and basically constitutes a slight limp. I am capable of participating in everyday life and my gait is only slightly different from what would be considered a "normal" pattern, I am also entirely self-sufficient and not dependent on anyone.
I am not dependent on any form of medication, so therefore would not be a burden on on the health authorities.
I do not use any mobility aids, such as a wheelchair or walking aids and so therefore would not require the need for medical aid once I had arrived.
My condition, however slight a limp will not alter.
What I am trying to say is, even taking into account all the above, and my ability to provide qualifications, would I still more than likely have my application turned down, because if my slight difficulty?
Personally my main concern is this. I think academically, in terms of qualifications I may be able to find my own niche to make a contribution. I think I can cover the personal skills route and gain some points eventually.
However there is an issue that can not be changed, I have extremely mild cerebal palsy.
I have exceptional, practically "normal" mobility, my only difficulty would be competing in team sports, but hardly think that applies. I live a completely, independent, "regular" life. My gait is only slightly altered from a regular pattern and basically constitutes a slight limp. I am capable of participating in everyday life and my gait is only slightly different from what would be considered a "normal" pattern, I am also entirely self-sufficient and not dependent on anyone.
I am not dependent on any form of medication, so therefore would not be a burden on on the health authorities.
I do not use any mobility aids, such as a wheelchair or walking aids and so therefore would not require the need for medical aid once I had arrived.
My condition, however slight a limp will not alter.
What I am trying to say is, even taking into account all the above, and my ability to provide qualifications, would I still more than likely have my application turned down, because if my slight difficulty?
regards.
Apr 26th 2003, 10:06 pm
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we came out on a long term business visa and you'll see on the program we did a lot of reasearch and came out to new zealand for a holiday before the bbc got involved. i think they wanted to show the "relocaters" trying to sort things out but we actually sorted most things out ourselves and from what i've heard about the show the relocators are getting a bit of flack. they were very nice people and helped us a lot. it's great to have people around especially when you've left all your family and friends behind.
the only advice i can give is to check out the wages here if you are looking for a job. the average rate seems to be around $15 per hour which isn't very much.
the only advice i can give is to check out the wages here if you are looking for a job. the average rate seems to be around $15 per hour which isn't very much.
Apr 27th 2003, 4:40 am
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Check out the following. Your mild cerebral palsy would appear to me (a medical layman) to be a condition that would normally be granted a waiver. - Cheers - Don
A4.1 Requirement to be of an acceptable standard of health
a. Applicants for visas and permits must be of an acceptable standard of
health.
b. If a visa or immigration officer is not satisfied that an applicant is of
an acceptable standard of health, they must refer the matter to the
NZIS consultant physician for assessment (see A4.25 – A4.40 ).
Chapter 4 Administration 4-3
A4.25 Role of the consultant physicians
a. Consultant physicians are appointed to examine the standard medical
and X-ray reports required in the following cases:
§ for applicants applying for residence, or
§ for applicants applying for temporary entry to New Zealand for
longer than 24 months, or
§ if a medical clearance is desirable.
b. The consultant physician assesses an applicant's health on the basis of
their NZIS medical certificates and associated reports, and may refer
to any source of guidelines or advice, including the Ministry of
Health. (see A4.30 )
c. The consultant physician may determine that an applicant is not of an
acceptable standard of health if the consultant physician considers
that the applicant is:
i likely to be a danger to public health, or
ii likely to be a burden on the New Zealand health services, or
iii unfit for the purpose of entry to New Zealand.
Effective 26/07/1999
A4.30 Factors considered when determining acceptable standard of health
The three main areas to be considered by the consultant physician in
evaluating the applicant's (and any accompanying dependants') standard
of health, and whether or not they will be a burden on the health services
of New Zealand, are:
§ the condition and prognosis of the applicant
§ the resources required for care
§ the availability of the required resources.
In each of these areas several factors are considered, as outlined below.
A4.30.1 Condition and Prognosis
Under this heading, the following factors may be considered:
a. the disease/disability and the stage of the disease/disability, including
symptoms;
b. the treatment and likely duration of symptoms;
c. the probable quality of life, and/or functioning;
d. life expectancy;
e. the likely course of disease (eg, remission periods, increasing
disability over time, etc).
4-4 Administration Chapter 4
A4.30.5 Resources required for care
The resources required for care are likely to include the following:
a. hospitalisation/treatment;
b. the likely frequency of hospital admissions;
c. the need for immediate treatment;
d. the need for ongoing secondary/tertiary/specialist care;
e. the availability and need for ongoing medication or high cost
medication;
f. ongoing management and/or treatment required;
g. support services likely to be used and frequency of use; ie:
i primary services (GP, home nursing, other health professionals,
etc),
ii community health services (home help, meals on wheels, day
care, forms of relief care, etc),
iii specific disability support services (appliances, residential care,
etc).
A4.30.10 Availability of the required resources
Factors relating to the availability of resources needed by the applicant
may include the following:
a. whether the type of condition is treated in New Zealand, or managed
in New Zealand;
b. whether the hospital-based care services required are restricted to
certain levels of clinical need (eg, elective surgery) or are unlikely to
be supplied in New Zealand;
c. whether other treatment/investigation/management required is
clinically restricted (eg, specialist-only pharmaceuticals);
d. whether any other health support services required have waiting times
or are not available immediately or restricted according to clinical
urgency, or there are other resource constraints.
Effective 26/07/1999
A4.35 Referral to consultant physicians
a. Visa and immigration officers must refer medical and X-ray
certificates that are not automatically acceptable to a consultant
physician who will advise on whether or not the applicants are
acceptable on medical grounds (see A4.35.1 below). All NZIS
branches or MFAT offices will have a copy of the assessment guide
for determining whether medical and X-ray certificates can be
accepted without referral..
A4.40 Recommendation of the consultant physician
a. If the consultant physician confirms an applicant (and any
accompanying dependants) as having an acceptable standard of
health, the application may proceed.
b. If the consultant physician declares any person included in an
application as having an unacceptable standard of health,
immigration officers must not consider declining the application
before they:
i advise the applicant of the medical problem, and
ii allow the applicant sufficient time to provide comment on the
medical problem.
c. If appropriate, the immigration officer may refer the applicant's
comments to the consultant physician before deciding whether or not
to decline the application, but should be aware that the further
comment by the consultant physician may itself need to be provided
to the applicant for comment if it is new information and is
potentially prejudicial.
Effective 26/07/1999
4-6 Administration Chapter 4
b. Requests by applicants for access to a consultant physician must be
referred to the appropriate processing office.
A4.55 Medical waivers
See A4.55 Effective 26/07/1999
a. People not considered to be of an acceptable standard of health for
residence are classified as follows:
i applicants who will not be granted a medical waiver, or
ii applicants who will not normally be granted a medical waiver, or
iii applicants who may be considered for a medical waiver.
b. Visa and immigration officers should consider any application for
residence that would normally be approved but fails to meet an
acceptable standard of health, against the medical waiver policy set
out in this section and sections A4.60 to A4.85 .
c. Applicants, (and dependants included in their application) who have
claimed refugee status while in New Zealand and who have been
recognised as refugees may also be granted a medical waiver.
d. Officers should seek professional medical opinion before making
decisions on medical waivers (see A4.65 .5).
e. Medical waivers may be considered against all categories of
residence policy in which all other requirements have been met.
f. Medical waivers may be considered for seconded business personnel
(see A4.80 ).
g. Any decision to grant a medical waiver must be made by an officer
with schedule 1 delegations (see A15.5 .1).
h. Officers must record decisions to approve or decline a medical waiver
on the Medical Waiver form.
Effective 01/03/2000
Chapter 4 Administration 4-7
A4.60 Applicants who will not be granted a waiver
See A4.60 Effective 26/07/1999
Applicants will not be granted a medical waiver if:
a. they require dialysis treatment, or a consultant physician has
indicated that they will require such treatment in the immediate
future; or
b. they have active tuberculosis (see A4.60.1 below); or
c. they have a mental disorder or intellectual disability that has needed
care in a hospital or supervised residence for more than 90 days in the
last 2 years; or
d. they have a physical incapacity that requires full-time care.
A4.60.1 Applicants who have tuberculosis
Applications from people who have active tuberculosis must be deferred
until at least 6 months from the date anti-TB treatment has begun, and
applications will only then be approved if:
a. sputum and/or gastric juice is negative on culture for tuberculosis;
and
b. the applicant continues to meet all other policy requirements.
Effective 13/12/2001
A4.65 Applicants who will not normally be granted a waiver
a. Applicants will not normally be granted a medical waiver if:
i they have an infectious or communicable disease other than
tuberculosis, or
ii they need surgery that is likely to create a severe resource
problem within the New Zealand health system.
4-8 Administration Chapter 4
A4.65.1 Action
a. Applications covered by section A4.65 above will not automatically
be declined on health grounds.
b. Visa and immigration officers must consider the surrounding
circumstances to decide whether they are compelling enough to
justify making an exception to the acceptable standard of health
requirement.
c. Factors that officers may take into account in making their decision
include but are not limited to the following:
i the objectives of the relevant residence policy or category, and
ii whether New Zealand has sufficient resources, and the degree to
which the applicant would be a burden on New Zealand health
services, and
A4.65.5 Further medical opinions
a. To assist in determining whether a medical waiver is justified under
A4.65 above, visa and immigration officers may seek a further
medical opinion from the consultant physician who carried out the
initial assessment.
b. Officers should refer all relevant papers to the consultant physician,
together with the reasons for seeking a further opinion. If
appropriate, they should ask for a prognosis and/or in light of further
information received from the applicant an opinion on the extent of
any likely burden on the health service if a medical waiver is granted.
c. If the consultant physician and the applicant's medical advisor(s) have
provided conflicting reports, officers should seek a further medical
opinion from either the medical referee or the psychiatric referee (see
A4.50 ).
Effective 26/07/1999
A4.70 Applicants who may be considered for a waiver
a. Applicants other than those in A4.60 and A4.60.1 may be considered
for a medical waiver.
A4.1 Requirement to be of an acceptable standard of health
a. Applicants for visas and permits must be of an acceptable standard of
health.
b. If a visa or immigration officer is not satisfied that an applicant is of
an acceptable standard of health, they must refer the matter to the
NZIS consultant physician for assessment (see A4.25 – A4.40 ).
Chapter 4 Administration 4-3
A4.25 Role of the consultant physicians
a. Consultant physicians are appointed to examine the standard medical
and X-ray reports required in the following cases:
§ for applicants applying for residence, or
§ for applicants applying for temporary entry to New Zealand for
longer than 24 months, or
§ if a medical clearance is desirable.
b. The consultant physician assesses an applicant's health on the basis of
their NZIS medical certificates and associated reports, and may refer
to any source of guidelines or advice, including the Ministry of
Health. (see A4.30 )
c. The consultant physician may determine that an applicant is not of an
acceptable standard of health if the consultant physician considers
that the applicant is:
i likely to be a danger to public health, or
ii likely to be a burden on the New Zealand health services, or
iii unfit for the purpose of entry to New Zealand.
Effective 26/07/1999
A4.30 Factors considered when determining acceptable standard of health
The three main areas to be considered by the consultant physician in
evaluating the applicant's (and any accompanying dependants') standard
of health, and whether or not they will be a burden on the health services
of New Zealand, are:
§ the condition and prognosis of the applicant
§ the resources required for care
§ the availability of the required resources.
In each of these areas several factors are considered, as outlined below.
A4.30.1 Condition and Prognosis
Under this heading, the following factors may be considered:
a. the disease/disability and the stage of the disease/disability, including
symptoms;
b. the treatment and likely duration of symptoms;
c. the probable quality of life, and/or functioning;
d. life expectancy;
e. the likely course of disease (eg, remission periods, increasing
disability over time, etc).
4-4 Administration Chapter 4
A4.30.5 Resources required for care
The resources required for care are likely to include the following:
a. hospitalisation/treatment;
b. the likely frequency of hospital admissions;
c. the need for immediate treatment;
d. the need for ongoing secondary/tertiary/specialist care;
e. the availability and need for ongoing medication or high cost
medication;
f. ongoing management and/or treatment required;
g. support services likely to be used and frequency of use; ie:
i primary services (GP, home nursing, other health professionals,
etc),
ii community health services (home help, meals on wheels, day
care, forms of relief care, etc),
iii specific disability support services (appliances, residential care,
etc).
A4.30.10 Availability of the required resources
Factors relating to the availability of resources needed by the applicant
may include the following:
a. whether the type of condition is treated in New Zealand, or managed
in New Zealand;
b. whether the hospital-based care services required are restricted to
certain levels of clinical need (eg, elective surgery) or are unlikely to
be supplied in New Zealand;
c. whether other treatment/investigation/management required is
clinically restricted (eg, specialist-only pharmaceuticals);
d. whether any other health support services required have waiting times
or are not available immediately or restricted according to clinical
urgency, or there are other resource constraints.
Effective 26/07/1999
A4.35 Referral to consultant physicians
a. Visa and immigration officers must refer medical and X-ray
certificates that are not automatically acceptable to a consultant
physician who will advise on whether or not the applicants are
acceptable on medical grounds (see A4.35.1 below). All NZIS
branches or MFAT offices will have a copy of the assessment guide
for determining whether medical and X-ray certificates can be
accepted without referral..
A4.40 Recommendation of the consultant physician
a. If the consultant physician confirms an applicant (and any
accompanying dependants) as having an acceptable standard of
health, the application may proceed.
b. If the consultant physician declares any person included in an
application as having an unacceptable standard of health,
immigration officers must not consider declining the application
before they:
i advise the applicant of the medical problem, and
ii allow the applicant sufficient time to provide comment on the
medical problem.
c. If appropriate, the immigration officer may refer the applicant's
comments to the consultant physician before deciding whether or not
to decline the application, but should be aware that the further
comment by the consultant physician may itself need to be provided
to the applicant for comment if it is new information and is
potentially prejudicial.
Effective 26/07/1999
4-6 Administration Chapter 4
b. Requests by applicants for access to a consultant physician must be
referred to the appropriate processing office.
A4.55 Medical waivers
See A4.55 Effective 26/07/1999
a. People not considered to be of an acceptable standard of health for
residence are classified as follows:
i applicants who will not be granted a medical waiver, or
ii applicants who will not normally be granted a medical waiver, or
iii applicants who may be considered for a medical waiver.
b. Visa and immigration officers should consider any application for
residence that would normally be approved but fails to meet an
acceptable standard of health, against the medical waiver policy set
out in this section and sections A4.60 to A4.85 .
c. Applicants, (and dependants included in their application) who have
claimed refugee status while in New Zealand and who have been
recognised as refugees may also be granted a medical waiver.
d. Officers should seek professional medical opinion before making
decisions on medical waivers (see A4.65 .5).
e. Medical waivers may be considered against all categories of
residence policy in which all other requirements have been met.
f. Medical waivers may be considered for seconded business personnel
(see A4.80 ).
g. Any decision to grant a medical waiver must be made by an officer
with schedule 1 delegations (see A15.5 .1).
h. Officers must record decisions to approve or decline a medical waiver
on the Medical Waiver form.
Effective 01/03/2000
Chapter 4 Administration 4-7
A4.60 Applicants who will not be granted a waiver
See A4.60 Effective 26/07/1999
Applicants will not be granted a medical waiver if:
a. they require dialysis treatment, or a consultant physician has
indicated that they will require such treatment in the immediate
future; or
b. they have active tuberculosis (see A4.60.1 below); or
c. they have a mental disorder or intellectual disability that has needed
care in a hospital or supervised residence for more than 90 days in the
last 2 years; or
d. they have a physical incapacity that requires full-time care.
A4.60.1 Applicants who have tuberculosis
Applications from people who have active tuberculosis must be deferred
until at least 6 months from the date anti-TB treatment has begun, and
applications will only then be approved if:
a. sputum and/or gastric juice is negative on culture for tuberculosis;
and
b. the applicant continues to meet all other policy requirements.
Effective 13/12/2001
A4.65 Applicants who will not normally be granted a waiver
a. Applicants will not normally be granted a medical waiver if:
i they have an infectious or communicable disease other than
tuberculosis, or
ii they need surgery that is likely to create a severe resource
problem within the New Zealand health system.
4-8 Administration Chapter 4
A4.65.1 Action
a. Applications covered by section A4.65 above will not automatically
be declined on health grounds.
b. Visa and immigration officers must consider the surrounding
circumstances to decide whether they are compelling enough to
justify making an exception to the acceptable standard of health
requirement.
c. Factors that officers may take into account in making their decision
include but are not limited to the following:
i the objectives of the relevant residence policy or category, and
ii whether New Zealand has sufficient resources, and the degree to
which the applicant would be a burden on New Zealand health
services, and
A4.65.5 Further medical opinions
a. To assist in determining whether a medical waiver is justified under
A4.65 above, visa and immigration officers may seek a further
medical opinion from the consultant physician who carried out the
initial assessment.
b. Officers should refer all relevant papers to the consultant physician,
together with the reasons for seeking a further opinion. If
appropriate, they should ask for a prognosis and/or in light of further
information received from the applicant an opinion on the extent of
any likely burden on the health service if a medical waiver is granted.
c. If the consultant physician and the applicant's medical advisor(s) have
provided conflicting reports, officers should seek a further medical
opinion from either the medical referee or the psychiatric referee (see
A4.50 ).
Effective 26/07/1999
A4.70 Applicants who may be considered for a waiver
a. Applicants other than those in A4.60 and A4.60.1 may be considered
for a medical waiver.
Apr 27th 2003, 1:38 pm
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Thanks very much. I would like to hear more kiwi new life stories to help me produce a rational argument. Thanks again.
Apr 27th 2003, 5:01 pm
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Posts: 52
People NZ Bound
Hi
We are trying to get to NZ for a new life also, but are finding it very differcult. We are in the family quota lottory to be drawn next month. If that fails then we may try the general skills, but are unsure if we gain enough points. I think that we may have 29 points, but the work experience is a bit of a sore point as some of my work experience was during my course (I am an accounting technician) and they disallow that, in which case i would lose 2 points and then we would only have 27 points.
My husband could get in under the adult sibling route as he is the last remaining family member in the uk all his family are NZ citizens (long story) and you would think that it would make it slighly easier for him to get in but that is not really the case, he would need a job offer first.
We are very determined to make it over there and if all else fails we will go over on visitors visas and find jobs (hopefully).
The family quota draw should be announced in June hopefully, so will keep you posted as to what happens. There is a lot of postings on oz but not so much on NZ. Good luck to all of you trying to get into NZ.
ali
We are trying to get to NZ for a new life also, but are finding it very differcult. We are in the family quota lottory to be drawn next month. If that fails then we may try the general skills, but are unsure if we gain enough points. I think that we may have 29 points, but the work experience is a bit of a sore point as some of my work experience was during my course (I am an accounting technician) and they disallow that, in which case i would lose 2 points and then we would only have 27 points.
My husband could get in under the adult sibling route as he is the last remaining family member in the uk all his family are NZ citizens (long story) and you would think that it would make it slighly easier for him to get in but that is not really the case, he would need a job offer first.
We are very determined to make it over there and if all else fails we will go over on visitors visas and find jobs (hopefully).
The family quota draw should be announced in June hopefully, so will keep you posted as to what happens. There is a lot of postings on oz but not so much on NZ. Good luck to all of you trying to get into NZ.
ali
Apr 27th 2003, 6:21 pm
#11
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Thread Starter
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 90
Good luck, I'm sure you'll be there before too long, I'd like to be kept informed.
May 27th 2003, 8:26 pm
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Hi Caz,
Sorry for not getting back to you sooner, but i'm a bit of a novice at this sort of thing. Thanks for the encouragment and the advice, I must admit you do tend to keep running into brick walls, but I'm not giving in.
I've got another questions you may be able to help me with. If I'm right the points total at the moment is 29. Having gone through my own calculations, I think I can get 24 points, within 5 point of the total. My question is, do I apply for a work visa and get a job in NZ that should give me the extra 5 points, or do I apply for the Gereral Skills visa and wait for the imigration service to decide if they want me.
Thanks
Dave
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Sorry for not getting back to you sooner, but i'm a bit of a novice at this sort of thing. Thanks for the encouragment and the advice, I must admit you do tend to keep running into brick walls, but I'm not giving in.
I've got another questions you may be able to help me with. If I'm right the points total at the moment is 29. Having gone through my own calculations, I think I can get 24 points, within 5 point of the total. My question is, do I apply for a work visa and get a job in NZ that should give me the extra 5 points, or do I apply for the Gereral Skills visa and wait for the imigration service to decide if they want me.
Thanks
Dave
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May 27th 2003, 10:01 pm
#13
Forum Regular
Joined: Apr 2003
Location: Leeds, UK
Posts: 38
Hi there David
Sorry about the delay - been writing my dissertation!
As far as I can see, it's never likely to drop as low as 24 again. You can apply for the work visa as long as your occupation is on the list, otherwise you can follow the route we're proposing, which is:
1) get all documentation together
2) go out & get a job offer
3) come back with said offer & apply for permanent residency
It's a bit of a faff, but looks like the best option open to us at the mo - a job offer in a related field is worth 8 points and you don't even need to take it necessarily. It's just a case of paying out for an additional airfare & then going all out for a job offer... we'll see how it goes! Seems a better idea than getting 6 mths on a job search visa & running the risk of not getting an offer at all & having to come back.
We'll see how well it works in due course!
Sorry about the delay - been writing my dissertation!
As far as I can see, it's never likely to drop as low as 24 again. You can apply for the work visa as long as your occupation is on the list, otherwise you can follow the route we're proposing, which is:
1) get all documentation together
2) go out & get a job offer
3) come back with said offer & apply for permanent residency
It's a bit of a faff, but looks like the best option open to us at the mo - a job offer in a related field is worth 8 points and you don't even need to take it necessarily. It's just a case of paying out for an additional airfare & then going all out for a job offer... we'll see how it goes! Seems a better idea than getting 6 mths on a job search visa & running the risk of not getting an offer at all & having to come back.
We'll see how well it works in due course!
May 28th 2003, 4:17 am
#14
Forum Regular
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 127
Re: People NZ Bound
If you are eligible (or potentially eligible) under other categories then you shouldn't be applying under the family quota scheme. I would expect NZIS to apply some tests for eligiblity....
Originally posted by alilandeg
Hi
We are trying to get to NZ for a new life also, but are finding it very differcult. We are in the family quota lottory to be drawn next month. If that fails then we may try the general skills, but are unsure if we gain enough points. I think that we may have 29 points, but the work experience is a bit of a sore point as some of my work experience was during my course (I am an accounting technician) and they disallow that, in which case i would lose 2 points and then we would only have 27 points.
My husband could get in under the adult sibling route as he is the last remaining family member in the uk all his family are NZ citizens (long story) and you would think that it would make it slighly easier for him to get in but that is not really the case, he would need a job offer first.
We are very determined to make it over there and if all else fails we will go over on visitors visas and find jobs (hopefully).
The family quota draw should be announced in June hopefully, so will keep you posted as to what happens. There is a lot of postings on oz but not so much on NZ. Good luck to all of you trying to get into NZ.
ali
Hi
We are trying to get to NZ for a new life also, but are finding it very differcult. We are in the family quota lottory to be drawn next month. If that fails then we may try the general skills, but are unsure if we gain enough points. I think that we may have 29 points, but the work experience is a bit of a sore point as some of my work experience was during my course (I am an accounting technician) and they disallow that, in which case i would lose 2 points and then we would only have 27 points.
My husband could get in under the adult sibling route as he is the last remaining family member in the uk all his family are NZ citizens (long story) and you would think that it would make it slighly easier for him to get in but that is not really the case, he would need a job offer first.
We are very determined to make it over there and if all else fails we will go over on visitors visas and find jobs (hopefully).
The family quota draw should be announced in June hopefully, so will keep you posted as to what happens. There is a lot of postings on oz but not so much on NZ. Good luck to all of you trying to get into NZ.
ali
May 28th 2003, 9:44 am
#15
Just Joined
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 17
Re: People New Zealand Bound
We are going out in July and found that we couldn't get residency immediately because we were a couple of points short - which wouldn't have been a problem with a job offer but couldn't apply for a job without a visa - catch 22. In the end we were still young enough to get a one year working holiday visa which should we like the place and find jobs we will change for residency.
