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rason Apr 14th 2010 11:43 am

NZ without a job offer
 
Hi

Im coming to NZ in 3 weeks without a job offer. Got very close (last 3) for a job with Fonterra in December last year, was told basically need to be in NZ after 3 months of interviews. So here i am on my way, with a bit of savings and a WHV for a bit of bar work etc to tide me over.

Im a Transport Manager and basically would need sponsoring/job offer to gain WTR.

Has anyone done anything as silly as this I could really do with knowing its not immposible at the minute getting somewhat nervous.

Thanks

DeepSix Apr 14th 2010 7:14 pm

Re: NZ without a job offer
 
i did the very same thing years ago.

turned up on a WHV.. and had some work within a month as i recall

My wife got her job ( sponsoring) within 3 days of getting here!

So it is very possible... its just a bit "seat of your pants" experience when you arrive in a different country.. with no job.. knowing no one..

liberating though.. when you get through it and realise that you are made of sterner stuff!

good luck with the job search

rason Apr 14th 2010 8:34 pm

Re: NZ without a job offer
 
Thanks you dont know how much that means at the moment just knowing its possible

DeepSix Apr 14th 2010 8:51 pm

Re: NZ without a job offer
 
no worries..

as long as your willing to pick up work where you can.. whilst waiting for your "career" or "sponsoring" job.. you'll be fine.

good luck with the hunting:thumbsup:

Fooferfish Apr 14th 2010 9:01 pm

Re: NZ without a job offer
 
Where in NZ are you heading to ? as this IMO will make a difference, not having to battle hundreds of other people who are unemployed to the same job offer !!

In life any thing is possible, the only thing that will stop you, is yourself !!!

You already have the balls to give it a go, and in NZ you can be whatever you want to be .

Lifes for the taking over here, and you only live once, and now you have the chance to enjoy NZ lifestyle.

Go for it.

ellenarosemary Apr 15th 2010 9:20 am

Re: NZ without a job offer
 
Just a quick question, to those who went over without a job offer, did you have a WHV or were you too old (so to speak) and went on a holiday visa and then changed it to a WTR - is this possible? as its what we will have to do if we dont get in on the skilled visa bit.

DeepSix Apr 15th 2010 8:38 pm

Re: NZ without a job offer
 
we had WHV's

but we didnt go to WTR.. we just converted straight to residency.

AndyR Apr 15th 2010 9:55 pm

Re: NZ without a job offer
 
Done exactly what you are doing and its working out great!

Me and the wife arrived just before christmas on WHV's and started job hunting straight away. Had my 1st interview after xmas (didn't like the place) but found a job within 3 weeks and they were happy to sponsor me. Wife found a job the next week and loves it.

3 year work permit came through 2 weeks after applying for it and hopefully this weekend will be submitting our EOI for Permenant Residance.

Go for it!

rason Apr 16th 2010 8:46 am

Re: NZ without a job offer
 
Im landing in Auckland but not restricting myself there just yet. Im lucky in the fact Ive got a very good contact in my industry who has just been working for the NZ government over there and has loads of contacts.

Im going out on WHV and taking it from there! There is a WHV you can get through a website (someone please help with its name) that you can get up to 35 I think it is.

Thanks all for the positive responses, its good to know that companies are willing to sponsor, thats been the biggest hurdle so far companies dont want to offer anything to someone living in the UK which is understandable and 99% wont even entertain you even though my covering letter states that I will be landing in May. To be fair I would probably do the same in their position but I may feel different about it in the future

ellenarosemary Apr 16th 2010 8:54 am

Re: NZ without a job offer
 
Thanks for the info on the up to age 35 visa (unfortunately i'm over that too - late starter).

Will probably have to take a trip june/july time and stay for a while and look for a job then, and hopefully find one fairly quickly thats suitable.

Alison

ellenarosemary Apr 16th 2010 11:22 am

Re: NZ without a job offer
 
ps. Did you trawl your way through the immigration accredited list to find employers who will do WTR? or some other way?:thumbsup:

rason Apr 16th 2010 12:52 pm

Re: NZ without a job offer
 
Im not the best qualified to talk about this however this is what I believe to be true from my research/talking to NZ immigration etc

To get WTR for a job thats not on the STS list you have to have a job offer from a company and still meet some of the requirements but the job offers the major sticking point.

The main difference between an accredited employee to a non accredited is that basically they have all ready gone through some of the immigration process or the worst of it anyway. Non accredited have to explain and prove why a foreigner is getting the role, proof of advertising it etc no one suitable for the role.

To be honest ive had no joy from either in the UK. Have you thought about a recruitment company. Cant recommend anyone at the mo ive spoken to two and they seem to talk a good talk but perhaps thats it?

concretepump Apr 16th 2010 1:30 pm

Re: NZ without a job offer
 

Originally Posted by rason (Post 8500972)
Im not the best qualified to talk about this however this is what I believe to be true from my research/talking to NZ immigration etc

To get WTR for a job thats not on the STS list you have to have a job offer from a company and still meet some of the requirements but the job offers the major sticking point.

The main difference between an accredited employee to a non accredited is that basically they have all ready gone through some of the immigration process or the worst of it anyway. Non accredited have to explain and prove why a foreigner is getting the role, proof of advertising it etc no one suitable for the role.

To be honest ive had no joy from either in the UK. Have you thought about a recruitment company. Cant recommend anyone at the mo ive spoken to two and they seem to talk a good talk but perhaps thats it?

hi no don't think that's quite right,i have been offered a job but they are not accredited, so they are applying to be accredited employers, so i can get WTR as this time around they wont accept my skill so have been refused to apply for PR if i go for a two year work visa you have to renew it every two years with medicals and police check then when you hit retirement age then you have to come back to uk so by going WTR i can apply for PR after two years and as long as i keep out of trouble should get it then if i want to retire there i can

ellenarosemary Apr 16th 2010 6:48 pm

Re: NZ without a job offer
 
Anyone care to clarify?

thanks

AndyR Apr 17th 2010 8:04 am

Re: NZ without a job offer
 

Originally Posted by ellenarosemary (Post 8501671)
Anyone care to clarify?

thanks

The company offered me my job and they weren't accredited.

Thing was though I applied under Long Term Skilled Shortage so they didn't have to justify not employing NZ people for it, just sponsor me for it. But then Immigration phoned me to say I wasn't suitable for LTSSL but was OK for Essential Skills so they moved me to that no problem. Luckily for me though as the company would have had to fill out all the justification part if I did that originally.

But then again the company also has about 90 employees and only 5 of them are kiwi's, the rest are migrants.


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