BEVS

:scared: Do your sums. Are you going North of North NZ or South of South NZ then? Take it you will have no mortgage.

turkeytickler

try telling that to the pension fund managers......

NZ Climber

Or all the people that know damn well that by the time they are of pensionable age, there won't be a pension to collect...

Lenmil

Things like that really pisses me off. I got nothing and still don't. We have to live off the wifes wage. While i was told this i over heard staff complaining of some individual of getting ,get this!!!! £900 a week. Does a lot for your own feelings i can tell you. All thias is doing to me is making me a hard an totally mistrusting person. I thought i knew about people being in business for alomsot 20 years, but, boy are you never learning how shit some people really are.

Pompey_Paul

Depends on what you define as their own fault......... economics, genetics, poor education, centurys of institutionalised racism / colonisation, pier pressure, customs & Traditions.

Not forgetting that the poor have lots of dependants as their pension!

Be careful how you judge others .....try to take a different less predictable slant

Pompey_Paul

Wifey did the same job for a while darn sarf....what broke her heart were the people for whom the system was designed for....the less able who are even with the generous assistance still struggle and end up living in pig pens........with tiny children who you know will end up the same way! I bet you see just the same

tottefan

You've just contradicted yourself then by saying that Christmas is so materialistic and commercial these days.

tottefan.

BEVS

Er No Mate.

That is not what I have written at all. Stating that commercially the shops display Christmas early does not directly relate to the utter rubbish you wrote . Neither does the observation that people stock up on food like its a seige. Thats always happened down through the decades . Its nothing new.


What age are you ? It might explain that post.

edited.

Shame on you Tottefan , that you have trawled this forum for some silly thing like that, particularly as you read that post . A sincere sentiment about the health of my Father may have been more appropriate ,mature & warmly welcomed.
It would seem you are exactly the uncaring youngster of today that you write about.

turkeytickler

tottefan

1.. I presume you are refering to postings in the thread "Come on, lets have a moan!"...?

2. I actually think the comment goes some way to proving the point. Why is Christmas so commercialised?

- xmas trading figures are a major indicator of profitability in the retail sector and these figures form part of the valuation of a retail organisation on the equity markets.
- institution shareholders are by far the most powerful and demanding voice represented in the boardroom of these companies. It is after all the Directors' legal responsibility to represent their shareholders. More to the point, Institutional shareholders often carry their own representation in these organisations and determine policy.

In other words, institutional shareholders demand strong performance from their investments, and in the retail sector that means strong seasonal performance - which will very often be the xmas season.

Now who are these institutional shareholders? They are large investment funds, ISAs, Unit Trusts etc but more often than not, Pension Funds - which are far and away the largest holders of equity in these funds.

You can therefore draw a fairly direct line between the performance of the funds that pensiors draw their retirement income from and pressure for the increased commercial exploitation of many things, including christmas.

The goose is getting fat as they say.... even the old ones!

tottefan

I can honestly say that I didn't read about your father - that must have been on a different thread. I sincerely hope that he gets better.

I must admit that I do write my fair share of garbage from time to time, as does everyone. I think it's probably because I'm pisse* half of the time.


tottefan.

Gill and Rob

Can you clarify what you mean by not their fault?

Gill

COWBOY_BUILDER

Is it really this bad ..?
http://www.halfthedeck.com/images/christmas.jpg

sky

That's about as funny as the funny birthday cards over here
Was hoping for a real good laugh there!

tottefan

Until the last 30 or 40 years they had few rights (i.e. as regards an education etc.) Even now the situation still hasn't been completely resolved - I suppose in situations such as these it probably never will be. Consequently, the Maoris have always been more likely to suffer the harmful effects of social problems and poverty. It's an historical problem that isn't just solved by a few years of policy changes.


tottefan.

BEVS

Same post . Same thread.

well . That would explain it somewhat. It would not explain complete lack of knowledge or understanding about the minds , aspirations wants & desires of those a certain age.

what AGE are you, exactly ??? Second time of asking .