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rubini Aug 21st 2007 5:55 pm

I will possibly fall at Final Fence
 
It looks likely that my visa application is going to be rejected due to medical grounds. I was diagnosed with Oesophageal cancer 4 1/2 years ago the tumour was removed and there was no sign of any cancer cells remaining. I have had regular checks over the past 4 years and my consultant is satisfied that i am over 90% certain to be clear. He has so far sent NZI two letters at there request saying that the prognosis is excellent. However the NZI doctor has decided that my condition has a failure rate of over 90%. therefore my application will be rejected. Needless to say my consultant is far from happy and is writing a strong letter in my defence. I also have someone else getting me evidence in support of my application so this is a last ditch attempt of swinging things in my favour. However i am not going to hold my breath. Has anybody else been in a similar position and won. Any comments would be welcome. Sean:(

oolie Aug 21st 2007 6:37 pm

Re: I will possibly fall at Final Fence
 
When you say NZI doctor do you mean the doctor who did your medical here or the doctor at NZI who reviewed it? Not that I have had anything similar just thinking if it was the doctor who did your medical could you not get a second opinion?

rubini Aug 21st 2007 6:54 pm

Re: I will possibly fall at Final Fence
 
Hi Oolie no i mean the doctor At NZI as my medical had to be assessed by them due to my previous condition

oolie Aug 21st 2007 7:16 pm

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What sort of visa are you going for? Arent they more relaxed on some types of visas than others? That really is sh1t for you - like you havent been through enough... I dont know anyone who has been through similar but hopefully you will get some help from someone on this board. Do you ever go on *****.co.uk? Might be worth a go as dont think it is all same people and someone there may have had similar experience. Dont give up though - be pushy and good luck. Keep us updated

oolie Aug 21st 2007 7:18 pm

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website is ***** - if they star again will pm you?

Spacecake799 Aug 21st 2007 9:22 pm

Re: I will possibly fall at Final Fence
 

Originally Posted by rubini (Post 5218090)
It looks likely that my visa application is going to be rejected due to medical grounds. I was diagnosed with Oesophageal cancer 4 1/2 years ago the tumour was removed and there was no sign of any cancer cells remaining. I have had regular checks over the past 4 years and my consultant is satisfied that i am over 90% certain to be clear. He has so far sent NZI two letters at there request saying that the prognosis is excellent. However the NZI doctor has decided that my condition has a failure rate of over 90%. therefore my application will be rejected. Needless to say my consultant is far from happy and is writing a strong letter in my defence. I also have someone else getting me evidence in support of my application so this is a last ditch attempt of swinging things in my favour. However i am not going to hold my breath. Has anybody else been in a similar position and won. Any comments would be welcome. Sean:(

Hi Sean,
There is a medical waiver for people like yourselves. It waives many very bad medical cases so yours should be a breeze.
Good luck
Carole

BEVS Aug 21st 2007 11:37 pm

Re: I will possibly fall at Final Fence
 
Sorry to read this. Hoping for a positive outcome for you.

NZIS medical waiver

NZIS health requirement page which includes a bit about medical waivers.

The above links may help a tiny little bit as to what your next step should be.

Littletoe Aug 22nd 2007 12:03 am

Re: I will possibly fall at Final Fence
 

Originally Posted by rubini (Post 5218090)
It looks likely that my visa application is going to be rejected due to medical grounds. I was diagnosed with Oesophageal cancer 4 1/2 years ago the tumour was removed and there was no sign of any cancer cells remaining. I have had regular checks over the past 4 years and my consultant is satisfied that i am over 90% certain to be clear. He has so far sent NZI two letters at there request saying that the prognosis is excellent. However the NZI doctor has decided that my condition has a failure rate of over 90%. therefore my application will be rejected. Needless to say my consultant is far from happy and is writing a strong letter in my defence. I also have someone else getting me evidence in support of my application so this is a last ditch attempt of swinging things in my favour. However i am not going to hold my breath. Has anybody else been in a similar position and won. Any comments would be welcome. Sean:(

The culture in NZ, I've noticed is the key is to 'push' Keep on trucking, and eventually you should get what you want. I've heard through the grapevine of people being so determined to get over here, they just keep at it. All the letters of support, all the pushing they can. If you fall at the final fence...get up! Its not my intention to give false hope here, but I can suggest that you don't give up. I'm really sorry to hear about your situation.
But it sounds like there is no good reason for you to be rejected with your consultants reports, etc. I wish you the very best of luck :wub:

happynz Aug 22nd 2007 12:10 am

Re: I will possibly fall at Final Fence
 

Originally Posted by Littletoe (Post 5219350)
The culture in NZ, I've noticed is the key is to 'push' Keep on trucking, and eventually you should get what you want. I've heard through the grapevine of people being so determined to get over here, they just keep at it. All the letters of support, all the pushing they can. If you fall at the final fence...get up! Its not my intention to give false hope here, but I can suggest that you don't give up. I'm really sorry to hear about your situation.
But it sounds like there is no good reason for you to be rejected with your consultants reports, etc. I wish you the very best of luck :wub:

Yeah, what she said.
;)

rubini Aug 22nd 2007 4:21 pm

Re: I will possibly fall at Final Fence
 
Thanks for the links to The medical waiver pages. However our case worker has already indicated that the application is set to be rejected. Our only hope is that i can gather enough evidence to contradict the other consultants findings. I feel that they have Googled my condition and come up with loads of mainly American websites which in most cases are years out of date and drawn their conclusions from that. What i would really like to know is if anybody has challenged NZI after being rejected on medical grounds and won. What worries me is that they will not go against the advise of their own consultants which puts me in a lose lose situation. Thanks for the messages of support. I will keep you posted how the decision goes.

helinuk Aug 23rd 2007 2:06 pm

Re: I will possibly fall at Final Fence
 

Originally Posted by rubini (Post 5222345)
Thanks for the links to The medical waiver pages. However our case worker has already indicated that the application is set to be rejected. Our only hope is that i can gather enough evidence to contradict the other consultants findings. I feel that they have Googled my condition and come up with loads of mainly American websites which in most cases are years out of date and drawn their conclusions from that. What i would really like to know is if anybody has challenged NZI after being rejected on medical grounds and won. What worries me is that they will not go against the advise of their own consultants which puts me in a lose lose situation. Thanks for the messages of support. I will keep you posted how the decision goes.

Have you asked them what you could do to convince them you are healthy and not just in remission? 5 yrs without a relapse is often quoted as all clear by UK medics I believe. Try asking them if they would consider your application after 5 yrs of being clear. Good luck!:)

oolie Aug 23rd 2007 6:38 pm

Re: I will possibly fall at Final Fence
 

Originally Posted by rubini (Post 5222345)
Thanks for the links to The medical waiver pages. However our case worker has already indicated that the application is set to be rejected. Our only hope is that i can gather enough evidence to contradict the other consultants findings. I feel that they have Googled my condition and come up with loads of mainly American websites which in most cases are years out of date and drawn their conclusions from that. What i would really like to know is if anybody has challenged NZI after being rejected on medical grounds and won. What worries me is that they will not go against the advise of their own consultants which puts me in a lose lose situation. Thanks for the messages of support. I will keep you posted how the decision goes.

What about if you took private medical insurance? Do they have such a thing in NZ and would it be afordable?

rubini Aug 23rd 2007 7:05 pm

Re: I will possibly fall at Final Fence
 
Even if NZ did accept Private Medical insurance i don't think there is a insurance company on the planet that would cover me for my condition.:thumbdown:

oolie Aug 23rd 2007 7:10 pm

Re: I will possibly fall at Final Fence
 

Originally Posted by rubini (Post 5227250)
Even if NZ did accept Private Medical insurance i don't think there is a insurance company on the planet that would cover me for my condition.:thumbdown:

Not even with the backing of your doctor and for a limited amount of time? There has to be a way. Did you get my pm and check the other website? Have you looked at the boards for other countries? Wouldnt Australia have similar rules? So many more people go to Oz compared to NZ would think more likely to find someone who has been through something similar.

rubini Aug 23rd 2007 7:17 pm

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Yes thanks i received your PM have had a look at it thanks :thumbup:


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