Do we return ???
Jan 9th 2008 | 12:06 pm
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Re: Do we return ???
We were looking at the south island Christchurch. We were a little disappointed with the North, but it does have some lovely parts.
We were also thinking, New Plymouth, but as yet we are unsure whether to move out again or not, the last experience left a pretty nasty taste to say the least. Also this time I have no house to sell in the UK, as all our funds were wiped out last time moving.
There is alot to think about and I dont feel whole heartedly that it is worth it, I can earn far more money in the UK, and having to move kids and animals I'm just not sure.
But we will continue to think about it, I miss all my family who are in NZ already, and they desperately want us back. But earning poor money, retraining again, and being like an apprentice again, with little money coming in would be hard, its a very tough situation.
Thanks for your comments, the NZ life isnt easy, but some find it great and good on them who make it work. Me I love England for some stupid reason...
but I also love my family ......
We were also thinking, New Plymouth, but as yet we are unsure whether to move out again or not, the last experience left a pretty nasty taste to say the least. Also this time I have no house to sell in the UK, as all our funds were wiped out last time moving.
There is alot to think about and I dont feel whole heartedly that it is worth it, I can earn far more money in the UK, and having to move kids and animals I'm just not sure.
But we will continue to think about it, I miss all my family who are in NZ already, and they desperately want us back. But earning poor money, retraining again, and being like an apprentice again, with little money coming in would be hard, its a very tough situation.
Thanks for your comments, the NZ life isnt easy, but some find it great and good on them who make it work. Me I love England for some stupid reason...
but I also love my family ......
Not all the plumbing employers are cruddy. My husband works for a really nice outfit. The blokes that own it are first rate people IMHO.
It is galling that one is forced backward like this by the PGDB. It's completely un-necessary when the qualifications and apprenticeships are comparable.
The craftsman stuff gets my goat. We already ran a small plumbing business in the UK and have the accounts to prove that. His UK quals are already more than enough to show Craftsman standard, yet here he is , doomed to be an employee for years.
Husband earns $26ph at the moment.
Thing is , it's not just about the cruddy PGDB is it. It's about being nearer to your family and perhaps having an NZ lifestyle. It's true your earnings won't be as good but you would gain on the family front.
Most of the time we don't even think about the poxy little PGDB and their insular little world. We just get on with our lives.
Diesel isn't governed by the PGDB. I'm thinking of commercial diesel boilers. Perhaps you could go that way?
Jan 9th 2008 | 9:33 pm
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Re: Do we return ???
Hi,
Well the commercial is the way he wants to go, its what he does predominately here, he did contact one firm in Auckland just on a tentative basis that he did previously work for ( the only one where things werent too bad), and they were very positive and said they would be more than happy to discuss the possibility of him returning, the company has evolved alot since then, I think the wheat has been sorted from the chaff so to speak, gauging from his email anyway. But OH would have to go down the route of the ole PGDB, I guess its just one of those things you have to grin and bear if you want to go that way. Just got alot of big decisions to make, funny that I thought all those decisions had gone away, but once you live somewhere else you realise that there is a big wide world out there, and it doesnt end at your front door. Thanks for all your help, certainly could have done with this forum 6 years ago when we were in NZ, could possibly have given us a different path to follow (thinking "sliding doors" here - who knows eh.
Well the commercial is the way he wants to go, its what he does predominately here, he did contact one firm in Auckland just on a tentative basis that he did previously work for ( the only one where things werent too bad), and they were very positive and said they would be more than happy to discuss the possibility of him returning, the company has evolved alot since then, I think the wheat has been sorted from the chaff so to speak, gauging from his email anyway. But OH would have to go down the route of the ole PGDB, I guess its just one of those things you have to grin and bear if you want to go that way. Just got alot of big decisions to make, funny that I thought all those decisions had gone away, but once you live somewhere else you realise that there is a big wide world out there, and it doesnt end at your front door. Thanks for all your help, certainly could have done with this forum 6 years ago when we were in NZ, could possibly have given us a different path to follow (thinking "sliding doors" here - who knows eh.
Feb 12th 2008 | 9:41 am
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Re: Do we return ???
No the question was should we return, well I would return but wouldnt ever move back to Auckland, that was the pits.
I think my wife was referring to moving back to try in another part of NZ, or Australia.
Just to recap ...........
We have been to NZ (auckland), I hated it, for 14 months, came back to the UK. Whilst in NZ, I applied to obtain my license which was refused, because I was told my UK qualies didnt mean a thing, so I believe I was mislead by the NZ immigration system. We are back in the UK now, but we are still unsettled and considering moving to Australia or NZ (south Island?) I wouldnt recommend Auckland to anyone looking for a better way of life from the UK, you may be in for a shock, but that of course was only our experience.
We lived in West Auckland, it was very damp, mouldy, chest infections, no heating. Everyone of us had a chest infection living there. Lovely being in the bush, but when your child becomes ill because of it then perhaps you think twice, my wife even got asthma living there.
So as you understand we arent at all interesed in Auckland area of NZ.
I guess what she is asking, is what are peoples thoughts are on other parts of NZ or Australia, was it just that we were in the wrong place, and had an run of bad experiences..
I am happy to hear good and the truth. Thanks for reading and your opinions.
I think my wife was referring to moving back to try in another part of NZ, or Australia.
Just to recap ...........
We have been to NZ (auckland), I hated it, for 14 months, came back to the UK. Whilst in NZ, I applied to obtain my license which was refused, because I was told my UK qualies didnt mean a thing, so I believe I was mislead by the NZ immigration system. We are back in the UK now, but we are still unsettled and considering moving to Australia or NZ (south Island?) I wouldnt recommend Auckland to anyone looking for a better way of life from the UK, you may be in for a shock, but that of course was only our experience.
We lived in West Auckland, it was very damp, mouldy, chest infections, no heating. Everyone of us had a chest infection living there. Lovely being in the bush, but when your child becomes ill because of it then perhaps you think twice, my wife even got asthma living there.
So as you understand we arent at all interesed in Auckland area of NZ.
I guess what she is asking, is what are peoples thoughts are on other parts of NZ or Australia, was it just that we were in the wrong place, and had an run of bad experiences..
I am happy to hear good and the truth. Thanks for reading and your opinions.
My husband is a drainlayer in Invercargill right down the bottom of the south island. We have a lovely big house, room to move and seaviews. Its still really affordable though Southland in general is experiencing major boom, warm in the summer 20-30 degrees average beautiful blue skies and amazing scenery and like anywhere in winter wet and chilly. But he has plenty of work and good money. I think Invercargill and especially Bluff would be a good option. Hope this is helpful.
Feb 13th 2008 | 6:15 am
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Re: Do we return ???
It is galling that one is forced backward like this by the PGDB. It's completely un-necessary when the qualifications and apprenticeships are comparable.
The craftsman stuff gets my goat. We already ran a small plumbing business in the UK and have the accounts to prove that. His UK quals are already more than enough to show Craftsman standard, yet here he is , doomed to be an employee for years.
Hi Bev. nice quotes,
Welcome aboard the gravy train Mr & Mrs PGDB,
With regards to immigrants coming to the UK working in the gas industry is it any easier or less expensive i think not, ACS modules £500ish, initial corgi reg subject to (experience) sound familiar £380ish and a guaranteed severe grilling by the inspector they are all jobsworth t***s.
The only thing the PGDB will be looking @ is the fleeceables section of the corgi manual.
From a NZ point of view we are doing the same to the UK gas immigrants.
Extremely frustrating for us but its just a case of playing the game.
money talks..
The craftsman stuff gets my goat. We already ran a small plumbing business in the UK and have the accounts to prove that. His UK quals are already more than enough to show Craftsman standard, yet here he is , doomed to be an employee for years.
Hi Bev. nice quotes,
Welcome aboard the gravy train Mr & Mrs PGDB,
With regards to immigrants coming to the UK working in the gas industry is it any easier or less expensive i think not, ACS modules £500ish, initial corgi reg subject to (experience) sound familiar £380ish and a guaranteed severe grilling by the inspector they are all jobsworth t***s.
The only thing the PGDB will be looking @ is the fleeceables section of the corgi manual.
From a NZ point of view we are doing the same to the UK gas immigrants.
Extremely frustrating for us but its just a case of playing the game.
money talks..
Feb 13th 2008 | 7:47 am
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With regards to immigrants coming to the UK working in the gas industry is it any easier or less expensive i think not, ACS modules £500ish, initial corgi reg subject to (experience) sound familiar £380ish and a guaranteed severe grilling by the inspector they are all jobsworth t***s.
There is no problem, in my mind, with an overseas gasfitter coming to NZ doing a multi-choice test and a practical assessment. That is Health and Safety .It should be commensurate with what NZ gasfitters do by way of H&S re-testing which is precisely nothing really. PGDB are just bringing in competance based licensing now for gasfitters. This is a credit based system. Some will get credits through courses. They can do distant learning [joke] and they can carry over credits from one year to another. It's not anything like CORGI .
This is not what the overseas gasfitter coming to NZ is asked to do anyway.
an overseas plumber or gasfitter is busted back to the level of final year apprentice and that is despite already have proven that they are of not just registration standard but craftsman standard.
Originally Posted by bigfoot
The only thing the PGDB will be looking @ is the fleeceables section of the corgi manual.
Originally Posted by bigfoot
From a NZ point of view we are doing the same to the UK gas immigrants.
It reads that you are.
Originally Posted by bigfoot
Extremely frustrating for us but its just a case of playing the game.
Last edited by BEVS; Feb 13th 2008 at 8:16 am.
Feb 13th 2008 | 10:52 am
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Originally Posted by bigfoot
The craftsman stuff gets my goat. We already ran a small plumbing business in the UK and have the accounts to prove that. His UK quals are already more than enough to show Craftsman standard, yet here he is , doomed to be an employee for years.
We also ran our own small business for several years. My OH is more qualified and experience than many of his NZ peers.
Where are you? It reads like you are in NZ.
Feb 20th 2008 | 6:04 am
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Re: Do we return ???
Hi, quick update.
We have decided for the time being that we are gonna stay put, we have weighed up the pros and cons, emotional, financial etc., but who knows what will happen in the future. I suppose that once you have moved out of the box and realised that there is life outside of the safety net, you will always have that within you. So who knows. Thanks for all your input and thoughts, always appreciated. Kind Regards and Best Wishes.
We have decided for the time being that we are gonna stay put, we have weighed up the pros and cons, emotional, financial etc., but who knows what will happen in the future. I suppose that once you have moved out of the box and realised that there is life outside of the safety net, you will always have that within you. So who knows. Thanks for all your input and thoughts, always appreciated. Kind Regards and Best Wishes.
Feb 20th 2008 | 11:29 pm
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[/quote] Ah ! So you are a Kiwi plumber/gasfitter then or a member of the PGDB. Or not It reads that you are.
Hi Bev, sorry about the late reply.
Definitely not a Kiwi plumber/gasfitter or a member of the PGDB, a rephrase required, just trying to make a point on similarities between the PGDB and corgi on the financial side of things.
Ps still in the UK at the moment, only just passed the EOI stage nothing submitted to herr PGDB yet, probably approaching it the wrong way as waiting for an ITA with strings attached ie quals assessment etc figured its going to be a rollercoaster either way.
It reads that you are.Hi Bev, sorry about the late reply.
Definitely not a Kiwi plumber/gasfitter or a member of the PGDB, a rephrase required, just trying to make a point on similarities between the PGDB and corgi on the financial side of things.
Ps still in the UK at the moment, only just passed the EOI stage nothing submitted to herr PGDB yet, probably approaching it the wrong way as waiting for an ITA with strings attached ie quals assessment etc figured its going to be a rollercoaster either way.
