teambwr47

Diet Coke was it..............

Nerine

It was you who made the Freudian slip.....big boy

Only because you warmed it up first

Yeah, I had a busy schedule that day but I thought..."hey what the hell! let's give it a go"

Too right mate and he'd better have a cold can for me too. It's bluddy hot in Oz.

Ok thank you...Mr Nisey it is then....it makes you so sound so much more human

Nerine

only if he got his kit off first.

teambwr47

You're clearly in this purely to stir things up and while i normally enjoy the banter of such things your's would just seem to be a parting shot against somewhere you just don't fit in...

Is the women in advertising just one of a list that you feel worth bringing up as a smoke screen reason for you not fitting in......?

As said above you'll be posting soon about your issues with Australia but by then we'll thankfully not have to listen to you on here and no doubt you'll be moving on yet again.

Interesting that while i view you simply as someone to wind up here, you seem to be offending mainly women in the thread, with your views on NZ and women in general.

Ted Logan

Now that is bollocks to the max, we don't live in some middle east country where woman are expected to serve the man and quite rightly women so. The "un-PC" adverts here are funny and taken that way. If we are to live in a PC world we would start being more similar to how Britian is at the moment.





That is very true and when reports like this happen the whole of the country is shocked. But your example of the two year old being shot was purely accidental. They did not mean to kill the baby. Children being beaten around the world is a regular occurance which is hard to address.

Yes well either an Aussie politician points out the influx of Asians arriving in Australia is not good for Australian and must stop or they lock refugees in prison camps or not allow them to land or scores of Aussie lads hit the beaches in Sydney and beat up an immigrant that happens to be walking past. That is a great way of acknowledging there issues.

this problem, is this back about chauvinism ??? As I don't see any other huge issue in the papers or news. And I'm still unsure about this society crumbling around its ears

TeamEmbo

So which do you think? (a) the above statement made by you or (b) the below statement made by you?

Nerine

You normally enjoy the banter and you like to wind people up. I think you can't deal with the fact that you've more than met your match on this one.

I'll be quite sad to sever my last links with NZ, I've enjoyed living in the country, it has a lot going for it. I doubt that the sense of community will be as strong in Oz. But life is what you make of it But moving on yet again?!! not likely mate! next one after this will be a retirement village.

Funny, was just thinking the same about you.

Nerine

Both, the whole of NZ isn't populated by used car salesmen you know.

Nerine

(You need to go back and read my posts properly TeamEmbo.)

BEVS

Oh, I think you are both from the same dye. Just play nicely with each other. No pun intended.

I have come across male chauvinism in NZ . Place Makers actually. Right annoying it was too and a bit of a shock. I was too stunned to do other than take myself off and send ole husbando in with a set of distructions. Did my head in at the time I can tell you. It had bugger to do with me as a person or a female and all to do with the blokes perception of me, my accent and my abilities as a woman.
I have had this in other places. Mostly when it comes to DIY/ home improvements, building materials type of stuff. I actually had asked of me ' when will your husband be in'?. Do me a favour.
You are OK if you want paint or a screwdriver. Go in for some heavy duty goods and it is another story. I have found this attitude frustrating. I don't knock against it. Just think it is a bit daft.

My local garage is ace. Really brilliant. There again it is not a male or female dominated business. I get good sound non-condescending service there .

Within business & professions, I find that there is an equal opportunity attitude. Balance and respect between the genders is in evidence. Not sure if the same people would translate the same into every day life. It is one thing to be in business - IT - accountant etc . Quite another when it comes to home life.

It is certainly true that males and females enjoy equal opportunity in sports which is all to the good.

Bo-Jangles

There are certainly more women in NZ who work in what we would consider typically male roles. Manual labourers, shovelling tarmac on the roads and scaffolders come to mind. It's not unusual at all to see a woman working among a gang of guys on the roads and I don't think I ever saw one woman doing that kind of work in the UK.

Nerine

Bevs, my local garage is the same too. The guy there was really happy to explain variable valve timing to me when I was having problems with my car, offered to pick it up from my home to service it too.

And I've had the same experiences as you at Bunnings, no problem when asking for a patio set for the garden but ask about wall vents for a wood burner and I was treated like some babbling idiot.

Bojangles, that's very true. It's great to see women doing that sort of work, and for the same wage that a man gets (I hope) Some of the women are partners of men in the same crew and travel around working together.

BEVS

I agree. You do see that here. I also saw it in the UK too. Did you not? Maybe because we worked in the trades , we saw it more.


My experience in Placemakers was a bit of a shock to the ole system but ,nevertheless, a real one.
Same with a couple of guys I've had around for quotes. It is fine. No worries , as long as they understand that at the end of the day they deal with us as a pair.
As I said , it is a bit silly but hey ! life is too short to be worrying . It is frustrating sometimes though and time consuming.

Nerine

It certainly is, sometimes it takes so much longer to get something done.

I don't recall seeing many women working on the roads or on scaffolding back in the UK but I'm sure you're right, they must do. I knew a few women who run scaffolding companies (one of them had taken it over from her father, the other was in business with her husband) but I don't know if they ever worked out on site or not.

uk+kiwi

Are you kidding? Good Lord yes.

It's a well known fact. Kiwi men are much more sophisticated and intelligent, generally speaking.