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Re: Your First British Winter
Originally posted by Moonstar I am sorry to encroach on your journey to the UK (not meant sarcastically) but I have to ask you all why, why did you leave the UK in the first place if you loved it so much. I personally can't wait to leave, we have thought of emigrating for many years and one reason or another have put off - this time we have decided to go through with it. The reasons are as follows: 1. Absolutely fed up of this country catering for everyone but the taxpayers (I live in Kent and believe me our Council Tax Bills are so much higher now!!) 2. Education for your children is absolutely appalling,Kent still has Grammar schools, so consequently if your children are not clued up enough on the Grammar school tests won't get in. Our daughter now goes to Private School (after attending an appalling Comprehensive in our area we decided to send her to a good Private school to ensure she receives the best results and in the year she has been there the results she has shown are amazing). 3. Lifestyle...........we all would like a more outside life, which we cannot have here due to the absolutely unpredicatble weather here,ie 2002 most of the summer was raining how depressing!! We went to Menorca for our holidays that year and I came back with a cold where it was raining all the time. 4. We have a standard 3 bed extended semi on a good plot, which we bought in early nineties and although we are both good wage earners we could not afford to upgrade without extending our debt, which we will not do. The house prices in Oz are amazing and yes with the equity we have built up we know we will own our own home outright nearly. 5. Motorways in the morning (have you all forgot!!!) to get into the City should only take 15 minutes on a good day will take nearly two hours with the terrible congestion. 6. Oh and Tony Blair what more can I say. I have seen the negative posts on here....... but you all seem to forget why you left in the first place....... DImma have a table where it shows all expats to Oz - 50% who go there and leave nearly half come back. Good luck guys you know more than me why you are coming back.......but remember it has got worse here and you will all slowlly realise that. I personnally have no allegiance to the UK at all and I am appalled at the way this country has more precedence over attending to political asylum seekers than Mrs Brown who is 85 and was born and bred here and needs help - not to mention I am actually paying for them to live in good homes and then to go into London and see them begging for money that appalls me. We do not have children or want to get into home buying and basically want to be closer to family. Trust me when you need the support of the ones you love and they are 12,000 miles away no amount of e-mails/telephone calls can make you feel any better. Every country has its pluses and minuses. Trust me Australia is just about the same as the UK in a lot of respects and the weather does not suit me unfortunately. I do watch Sky News from London everyday, go on the net and get English mags/papers so understand the issues in the UK. Let's say it is the same crap but a different smell. We have traffic gridlocks, asylum seekers, a terrible public health system and education system, etc. My rose tinted specs will drop off at some point but for the moment I am enjoying my life and the plans I have made. Good luck on your plans to get to Oz. Best wishes Merlot |
Re: Your First British Winter
Originally posted by Moonstar I am sorry to encroach on your journey to the UK (not meant sarcastically) but I have to ask you all why, why did you leave the UK in the first place if you loved it so much. I personally can't wait to leave, we have thought of emigrating for many years and one reason or another have put off - this time we have decided to go through with it. The reasons are as follows: 1. Absolutely fed up of this country catering for everyone but the taxpayers (I live in Kent and believe me our Council Tax Bills are so much higher now!!) 2. Education for your children is absolutely appalling,Kent still has Grammar schools, so consequently if your children are not clued up enough on the Grammar school tests won't get in. Our daughter now goes to Private School (after attending an appalling Comprehensive in our area we decided to send her to a good Private school to ensure she receives the best results and in the year she has been there the results she has shown are amazing). 3. Lifestyle...........we all would like a more outside life, which we cannot have here due to the absolutely unpredicatble weather here,ie 2002 most of the summer was raining how depressing!! We went to Menorca for our holidays that year and I came back with a cold where it was raining all the time. 4. We have a standard 3 bed extended semi on a good plot, which we bought in early nineties and although we are both good wage earners we could not afford to upgrade without extending our debt, which we will not do. The house prices in Oz are amazing and yes with the equity we have built up we know we will own our own home outright nearly. 5. Motorways in the morning (have you all forgot!!!) to get into the City should only take 15 minutes on a good day will take nearly two hours with the terrible congestion. 6. Oh and Tony Blair what more can I say. I have seen the negative posts on here....... but you all seem to forget why you left in the first place....... DImma have a table where it shows all expats to Oz - 50% who go there and leave nearly half come back. Good luck guys you know more than me why you are coming back.......but remember it has got worse here and you will all slowlly realise that. I personnally have no allegiance to the UK at all and I am appalled at the way this country has more precedence over attending to political asylum seekers than Mrs Brown who is 85 and was born and bred here and needs help - not to mention I am actually paying for them to live in good homes and then to go into London and see them begging for money that appalls me. :scared: You must tell us all what part of OZ you are going to? Becuase the OZ I live in has almost all of the above same situations, just change Blair to Howard. |
Re: Your First British Winter
Originally posted by Moonstar I am sorry to encroach on your journey to the UK (not meant sarcastically) but I have to ask you all why, why did you leave the UK in the first place if you loved it so much. I personally can't wait to leave, we have thought of emigrating for many years and one reason or another have put off - this time we have decided to go through with it. The reasons are as follows: 1. Absolutely fed up of this country catering for everyone but the taxpayers (I live in Kent and believe me our Council Tax Bills are so much higher now!!) 2. Education for your children is absolutely appalling,Kent still has Grammar schools, so consequently if your children are not clued up enough on the Grammar school tests won't get in. Our daughter now goes to Private School (after attending an appalling Comprehensive in our area we decided to send her to a good Private school to ensure she receives the best results and in the year she has been there the results she has shown are amazing). 3. Lifestyle...........we all would like a more outside life, which we cannot have here due to the absolutely unpredicatble weather here,ie 2002 most of the summer was raining how depressing!! We went to Menorca for our holidays that year and I came back with a cold where it was raining all the time. 4. We have a standard 3 bed extended semi on a good plot, which we bought in early nineties and although we are both good wage earners we could not afford to upgrade without extending our debt, which we will not do. The house prices in Oz are amazing and yes with the equity we have built up we know we will own our own home outright nearly. 5. Motorways in the morning (have you all forgot!!!) to get into the City should only take 15 minutes on a good day will take nearly two hours with the terrible congestion. 6. Oh and Tony Blair what more can I say. I have seen the negative posts on here....... but you all seem to forget why you left in the first place....... DImma have a table where it shows all expats to Oz - 50% who go there and leave nearly half come back. Good luck guys you know more than me why you are coming back.......but remember it has got worse here and you will all slowlly realise that. I personnally have no allegiance to the UK at all and I am appalled at the way this country has more precedence over attending to political asylum seekers than Mrs Brown who is 85 and was born and bred here and needs help - not to mention I am actually paying for them to live in good homes and then to go into London and see them begging for money that appalls me. Moonstar Perhpas you should also check out the news in Australia. It is not all "Home and Away" !!! Check out these websites and see what happens out here...sorry I have just seen the news and its not all sun, sea and surf.. www.abc.net.au/news/ www.smh.com.au www.ten.com.au/main_idx.aspx?section=newsWeather these are just in NSW now consider the whole of Australia... Informative news !!!Don't want to put a downer on your expectations but honestly Australia is not exempt from any issues you mentioned above. We can't all be wrong can we?? Happy settling to you..we are all individuals with different needs and wants. I wish you well. cheers Pants |
Re: Your First British Winter
Originally posted by Moonstar I am sorry to encroach on your journey to the UK (not meant sarcastically) but I have to ask you all why, why did you leave the UK in the first place if you loved it so much. I personally can't wait to leave, we have thought of emigrating for many years and one reason or another have put off - this time we have decided to go through with it. The reasons are as follows: 1. Absolutely fed up of this country catering for everyone but the taxpayers (I live in Kent and believe me our Council Tax Bills are so much higher now!!) 2. Education for your children is absolutely appalling,Kent still has Grammar schools, so consequently if your children are not clued up enough on the Grammar school tests won't get in. Our daughter now goes to Private School (after attending an appalling Comprehensive in our area we decided to send her to a good Private school to ensure she receives the best results and in the year she has been there the results she has shown are amazing). 3. Lifestyle...........we all would like a more outside life, which we cannot have here due to the absolutely unpredicatble weather here,ie 2002 most of the summer was raining how depressing!! We went to Menorca for our holidays that year and I came back with a cold where it was raining all the time. 4. We have a standard 3 bed extended semi on a good plot, which we bought in early nineties and although we are both good wage earners we could not afford to upgrade without extending our debt, which we will not do. The house prices in Oz are amazing and yes with the equity we have built up we know we will own our own home outright nearly. 5. Motorways in the morning (have you all forgot!!!) to get into the City should only take 15 minutes on a good day will take nearly two hours with the terrible congestion. 6. Oh and Tony Blair what more can I say. I have seen the negative posts on here....... but you all seem to forget why you left in the first place....... DImma have a table where it shows all expats to Oz - 50% who go there and leave nearly half come back. Good luck guys you know more than me why you are coming back.......but remember it has got worse here and you will all slowlly realise that. I personnally have no allegiance to the UK at all and I am appalled at the way this country has more precedence over attending to political asylum seekers than Mrs Brown who is 85 and was born and bred here and needs help - not to mention I am actually paying for them to live in good homes and then to go into London and see them begging for money that appalls me. When you emmigrate you think of reasons for going to that country. What is the point of jumping country for somewhere with the same issues and another bunch of corrupt politicians. I hope you find what you are looking for but politicians are in charge everywhere. |
Re: Your First British Winter
Originally posted by Moonstar 2. Education for your children is absolutely appalling,Kent still has Grammar schools, so consequently if your children are not clued up enough on the Grammar school tests won't get in. Our daughter now goes to Private School (after attending an appalling Comprehensive in our area we decided to send her to a good Private school to ensure she receives the best results and in the year she has been there the results she has shown are amazing). You're now sending your daughter to a private school, which no doubt is costly to you, but her results are now amazing. Have you thought that you may be jeopardising her further improvement by moving to a different country and school system? |
Re: Your First British Winter
Originally posted by Moonstar I am sorry to encroach on your journey to the UK (not meant sarcastically) but I have to ask you all why, why did you leave the UK in the first place if you loved it so much. I personally can't wait to leave, we have thought of emigrating for many years and one reason or another have put off - this time we have decided to go through with it. The reasons are as follows: 1. Absolutely fed up of this country catering for everyone but the taxpayers (I live in Kent and believe me our Council Tax Bills are so much higher now!!) 2. Education for your children is absolutely appalling,Kent still has Grammar schools, so consequently if your children are not clued up enough on the Grammar school tests won't get in. Our daughter now goes to Private School (after attending an appalling Comprehensive in our area we decided to send her to a good Private school to ensure she receives the best results and in the year she has been there the results she has shown are amazing). 3. Lifestyle...........we all would like a more outside life, which we cannot have here due to the absolutely unpredicatble weather here,ie 2002 most of the summer was raining how depressing!! We went to Menorca for our holidays that year and I came back with a cold where it was raining all the time. 4. We have a standard 3 bed extended semi on a good plot, which we bought in early nineties and although we are both good wage earners we could not afford to upgrade without extending our debt, which we will not do. The house prices in Oz are amazing and yes with the equity we have built up we know we will own our own home outright nearly. 5. Motorways in the morning (have you all forgot!!!) to get into the City should only take 15 minutes on a good day will take nearly two hours with the terrible congestion. 6. Oh and Tony Blair what more can I say. I have seen the negative posts on here....... but you all seem to forget why you left in the first place....... DImma have a table where it shows all expats to Oz - 50% who go there and leave nearly half come back. Good luck guys you know more than me why you are coming back.......but remember it has got worse here and you will all slowlly realise that. I personnally have no allegiance to the UK at all and I am appalled at the way this country has more precedence over attending to political asylum seekers than Mrs Brown who is 85 and was born and bred here and needs help - not to mention I am actually paying for them to live in good homes and then to go into London and see them begging for money that appalls me. |
Re: Your First British Winter
Originally posted by heading downunder 2002 Like others I was going to suggest you just change the names and you could be talking about Oz!!. Number 3 that you mentioned, you would like an outdoor lifestyle, this for us was also one of the reasons for migrating to Oz, our little girl spent more time inside in Oz than she ever has in the UK, its just too hot to go out in whereas at least here you can wrap up warm and put your waterproofs on. Don't get me wrong Australia is a lovely country just be prepared for a few disapointments. One thing that I can share in my own experience about running of a country (Oz or UK). The first few years in a new country you are so wrapped up in settling - weather, job, house, kids schools, what brand of washing power or loo roll to use, homesickness, etc. Once you are settled after a year or two you start to look more around you and take more notice of events/news/local issues. In between this you have been a victim of crime, stood in Medciare queues, fought your way through traffic gridlock in North Ryde peak hour, recovered from illness without family support, left your home because of bushfire, etc. (Just examples) This is in my opinion when you start to realise that where you live is the same as the place you come from with regards to politics, social problems, etc. For me the only difference was climate and boy the Ozzie climate is crap. Agreed with posts that said you don't go out often in the summer as TOO HOT!!!! We spend more time indoors. When you do go out you are covered up and have lost of lovely oily suncream on buggering up your nice summer clothes. I am sure after a year to two in the UK I may feel the same with social issues, etc. The pluses in the UK is going to be looking forward to family get togethers, family being close when really needed through illness, house break in's, whatever! Just another two bobs worth! Merlot |
Re: Your First British Winter
Originally posted by Moonstar I am sorry to encroach on your journey to the UK (not meant sarcastically) but I have to ask you all why, why did you leave the UK in the first place if you loved it so much. I personally can't wait to leave, we have thought of emigrating for many years and one reason or another have put off - this time we have decided to go through with it. The reasons are as follows: 1. Absolutely fed up of this country catering for everyone but the taxpayers (I live in Kent and believe me our Council Tax Bills are so much higher now!!) 2. Education for your children is absolutely appalling,Kent still has Grammar schools, so consequently if your children are not clued up enough on the Grammar school tests won't get in. Our daughter now goes to Private School (after attending an appalling Comprehensive in our area we decided to send her to a good Private school to ensure she receives the best results and in the year she has been there the results she has shown are amazing). 3. Lifestyle...........we all would like a more outside life, which we cannot have here due to the absolutely unpredicatble weather here,ie 2002 most of the summer was raining how depressing!! We went to Menorca for our holidays that year and I came back with a cold where it was raining all the time. 4. We have a standard 3 bed extended semi on a good plot, which we bought in early nineties and although we are both good wage earners we could not afford to upgrade without extending our debt, which we will not do. The house prices in Oz are amazing and yes with the equity we have built up we know we will own our own home outright nearly. 5. Motorways in the morning (have you all forgot!!!) to get into the City should only take 15 minutes on a good day will take nearly two hours with the terrible congestion. 6. Oh and Tony Blair what more can I say. I have seen the negative posts on here....... but you all seem to forget why you left in the first place....... DImma have a table where it shows all expats to Oz - 50% who go there and leave nearly half come back. Good luck guys you know more than me why you are coming back.......but remember it has got worse here and you will all slowlly realise that. I personnally have no allegiance to the UK at all and I am appalled at the way this country has more precedence over attending to political asylum seekers than Mrs Brown who is 85 and was born and bred here and needs help - not to mention I am actually paying for them to live in good homes and then to go into London and see them begging for money that appalls me. Bad weather? You are aware of heat waves and bush fires I suppose? Taxes? Check some recent threads but my understanding is Aus is as high if not higher. Education? Simply check the very latest research online to find that the UK performs as well as Aus and in some cases better. Traffic? You're in for a surprise. Politicians? They exist everywhere. So your only 'valid' reason would be to shake off your mortgage? Good luck. As for the other 'reasons'....no chance. |
Re: Your First British Winter
Originally posted by Merlot Agreed. For me the only difference was climate and boy the Ozzie climate is crap. Agreed with posts that said you don't go out often in the summer as TOO HOT!!!! We spend more time indoors. When you do go out you are covered up and have lost of lovely oily suncream on buggering up your nice summer clothes. Merlot |
Re: Your First British Winter
Originally posted by dotty You and Sue have just made very good comments about the climate. People in the UK have absolutely no idea what we are talking about. A place where the UV is so extreme you can spend 7 minutes in the sun. Are your kids going to want to run about in 37 degrees? Is being permanently covered in a thick white layer of sunblock pleasant. Going out lugging litres of water, sunblock, hats, shirts X 5 people everytime you leave the house. Trying to sleep when its 28 degrees still at 2 am. Sorry give me a cool climate at least I can get on with living. Winter heres lovely but thats 3 months if we are lucky. Don't forget the horrid smoke from bushfires 100 km's away, umm breathing in that every summer is just the best! |
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Originally posted by ladyofthelake I'm not really one to comment on pros or cons of Oz, as I'm in the wrong country, but one thing stood out to me in your post. You're now sending your daughter to a private school, which no doubt is costly to you, but her results are now amazing. Have you thought that you may be jeopardising her further improvement by moving to a different country and school system? Thank you all for your comments I really appreciate hearing them. I was not in anyway trying to be rude to you all, but just wanted to hear the negative side and I will keep your comments in my mind. Yes I could jeopardise my daughter's future, but we hope to leave here when she has completed her GCSE's and then maybe enrol her in a Private College or something over there to keep up the good work. I want her to experience things in a different country and so does she. |
Originally posted by Moonstar I am sorry to encroach on your journey to the UK (not meant sarcastically) but I have to ask you all why, why did you leave the UK in the first place if you loved it so much. I personally can't wait to leave, we have thought of emigrating for many years and one reason or another have put off - this time we have decided to go through with it. The reasons are as follows: 1. Absolutely fed up of this country catering for everyone but the taxpayers (I live in Kent and believe me our Council Tax Bills are so much higher now!!) 2. Education for your children is absolutely appalling,Kent still has Grammar schools, so consequently if your children are not clued up enough on the Grammar school tests won't get in. Our daughter now goes to Private School (after attending an appalling Comprehensive in our area we decided to send her to a good Private school to ensure she receives the best results and in the year she has been there the results she has shown are amazing). 3. Lifestyle...........we all would like a more outside life, which we cannot have here due to the absolutely unpredicatble weather here,ie 2002 most of the summer was raining how depressing!! We went to Menorca for our holidays that year and I came back with a cold where it was raining all the time. 4. We have a standard 3 bed extended semi on a good plot, which we bought in early nineties and although we are both good wage earners we could not afford to upgrade without extending our debt, which we will not do. The house prices in Oz are amazing and yes with the equity we have built up we know we will own our own home outright nearly. 5. Motorways in the morning (have you all forgot!!!) to get into the City should only take 15 minutes on a good day will take nearly two hours with the terrible congestion. 6. Oh and Tony Blair what more can I say. I have seen the negative posts on here....... but you all seem to forget why you left in the first place....... DImma have a table where it shows all expats to Oz - 50% who go there and leave nearly half come back. Good luck guys you know more than me why you are coming back.......but remember it has got worse here and you will all slowlly realise that. I personnally have no allegiance to the UK at all and I am appalled at the way this country has more precedence over attending to political asylum seekers than Mrs Brown who is 85 and was born and bred here and needs help - not to mention I am actually paying for them to live in good homes and then to go into London and see them begging for money that appalls me. Some of the reasons you cite for leaving could be resolved by moving elsewhere in the UK - i.e. not all of the UK is like you describe. Some of the reasons you cite for leaving you will find in the chosen destination (I don't know if you are still planning on Melbourne?): traffic (1hr to drive 10kms into the CBD), pollution, permament smog, one in 4 kids with asthma. House prices amazing? Maybe if buying in GBP but if buying on an Oz wage, they're not that brilliant!! Have you budgeted for the 7% stamp duty in your house purchase? (Of course being able to buy outright is wonderful, but of course you could buy something more affordable if you moved away from London!!). Outdoor lifestyle? People use the excuse of the weather in the UK for not being able to have an outdoor lifestyle, which is weak. There are plenty of things you can do outdoors - rain or shine. BBQs and sunshine weren't enough for us - sure, it's nice to be able to have dinner on the veranda, but then again, when it's dark between 4.30-7pm for 7 months of the year or you're covered in flies, it's not always that special! If you and your kids aren't driven by the outdoors here in the UK then why do you think you will suddenly become like that in Australia? Kids there all have Playstation. Ironically, we are driven by the outdorrs and the countryside and that was a major reason for our decision to return. Did you know that there is a teacher shortage in Australia? Or that hospitals have been closed in Melbourne due to lack of funding? Or that hundreds of operations have been cancelled at the Melbourne children's hospital in recent months due to staff shortages? We are expecting our first child in March. We weren't expecting to return to the UK so soon, but when we weighed up the options, we realised we'd rather raise our children in the UK than in Australia. Australia is a wonderful country in many respects, but it's not that difficlut to spot the positives about the UK. It's also not that difficult to spot the similarities in their problem areas. It is nice that you are so enthusiastic about your new life and I wish you all the best in your venture, but I sincerely hope that you aren't just going for the reasons you cited above. HP |
Originally posted by HiddenPaw Interesting that you think we all left the UK in search of a better place, and to escape the 'doom and gloom' of the UK. Many of us have done it for entirely different reasons. (In my case, a move to Australia provided me with the opportunity to experience living and working overseas, and to spend more time with my sister. It was for an indefinate length of time, whilst we had no children.) I didn't try and escape the UK - and more fool anyone who is going because they are sick of the UK - chances are they'll find the same probs elsewhere. Some of the reasons you cite for leaving could be resolved by moving elsewhere in the UK - i.e. not all of the UK is like you describe. Some of the reasons you cite for leaving you will find in the chosen destination (I don't know if you are still planning on Melbourne?): traffic (1hr to drive 10kms into the CBD), pollution, permament smog, one in 4 kids with asthma. House prices amazing? Maybe if buying in GBP but if buying on an Oz wage, they're not that brilliant!! Have you budgeted for the 7% stamp duty in your house purchase? (Of course being able to buy outright is wonderful, but of course you could buy something more affordable if you moved away from London!!). Outdoor lifestyle? People use the excuse of the weather in the UK for not being able to have an outdoor lifestyle, which is weak. There are plenty of things you can do outdoors - rain or shine. BBQs and sunshine weren't enough for us - sure, it's nice to be able to have dinner on the veranda, but then again, when it's dark between 4.30-7pm for 7 months of the year or you're covered in flies, it's not always that special! If you and your kids aren't driven by the outdoors here in the UK then why do you think you will suddenly become like that in Australia? Kids there all have Playstation. Ironically, we are driven by the outdorrs and the countryside and that was a major reason for our decision to return. Did you know that there is a teacher shortage in Australia? Or that hospitals have been closed in Melbourne due to lack of funding? Or that hundreds of operations have been cancelled at the Melbourne children's hospital in recent months due to staff shortages? We are expecting our first child in March. We weren't expecting to return to the UK so soon, but when we weighed up the options, we realised we'd rather raise our children in the UK than in Australia. Australia is a wonderful country in many respects, but it's not that difficlut to spot the positives about the UK. It's also not that difficult to spot the similarities in their problem areas. It is nice that you are so enthusiastic about your new life and I wish you all the best in your venture, but I sincerely hope that you aren't just going for the reasons you cited above. HP |
Originally posted by HiddenPaw Interesting that you think we all left the UK in search of a better place, and to escape the 'doom and gloom' of the UK. Many of us have done it for entirely different reasons. (In my case, a move to Australia provided me with the opportunity to experience living and working overseas, and to spend more time with my sister. It was for an indefinate length of time, whilst we had no children.) I didn't try and escape the UK - and more fool anyone who is going because they are sick of the UK - chances are they'll find the same probs elsewhere. Some of the reasons you cite for leaving could be resolved by moving elsewhere in the UK - i.e. not all of the UK is like you describe. Some of the reasons you cite for leaving you will find in the chosen destination (I don't know if you are still planning on Melbourne?): traffic (1hr to drive 10kms into the CBD), pollution, permament smog, one in 4 kids with asthma. House prices amazing? Maybe if buying in GBP but if buying on an Oz wage, they're not that brilliant!! Have you budgeted for the 7% stamp duty in your house purchase? (Of course being able to buy outright is wonderful, but of course you could buy something more affordable if you moved away from London!!). Outdoor lifestyle? People use the excuse of the weather in the UK for not being able to have an outdoor lifestyle, which is weak. There are plenty of things you can do outdoors - rain or shine. BBQs and sunshine weren't enough for us - sure, it's nice to be able to have dinner on the veranda, but then again, when it's dark between 4.30-7pm for 7 months of the year or you're covered in flies, it's not always that special! If you and your kids aren't driven by the outdoors here in the UK then why do you think you will suddenly become like that in Australia? Kids there all have Playstation. Ironically, we are driven by the outdorrs and the countryside and that was a major reason for our decision to return. Did you know that there is a teacher shortage in Australia? Or that hospitals have been closed in Melbourne due to lack of funding? Or that hundreds of operations have been cancelled at the Melbourne children's hospital in recent months due to staff shortages? We are expecting our first child in March. We weren't expecting to return to the UK so soon, but when we weighed up the options, we realised we'd rather raise our children in the UK than in Australia. Australia is a wonderful country in many respects, but it's not that difficlut to spot the positives about the UK. It's also not that difficult to spot the similarities in their problem areas. It is nice that you are so enthusiastic about your new life and I wish you all the best in your venture, but I sincerely hope that you aren't just going for the reasons you cited above. HP We don't expect to go and it be all rosy,we just want the opportunity to see how it will be. After all it can't be that bad if so many people are trying to get over there. I have just read a post from someone who went over to Sydney 10 months ago and she loves it, so it can't all be bad. You say about living elsewhere in the UK, re house prices, I have to point out we don't live in London at all, house prices everywhere (apart from the real dive of places) are high now. There is nowhere in the UK we would like to move to North far too cold, West no work, so doesn't leave us much options here in the UK and to be honest I don't want to live anywhere else over here. The world would be a great place if we all had the same opinions, and I quiet frankly cannot see why my reasons are poor reason to go. I wish you well with your little one and hope your move back to the UK is a happy one. |
Originally posted by Moonstar Thanks for your comments and yes I am going for most the reasons earlier stated. One man's meat is another man's poison as they say, we would both like to experience Oz before making our judgement - and I really do appreciate everyones good and bad points on life in Oz (thats why I am here), but I personally have made quite a few decisions in my life where people close to me have warned me against doing what I want and the majority of my decisions have turned out alright, saying that I have also made bad some ones. We don't expect to go and it be all rosy,we just want the opportunity to see how it will be. After all it can't be that bad if so many people are trying to get over there. I have just read a post from someone who went over to Sydney 10 months ago and she loves it, so it can't all be bad. You say about living elsewhere in the UK, re house prices, I have to point out we don't live in London at all, house prices everywhere (apart from the real dive of places) are high now. There is nowhere in the UK we would like to move to North far too cold, West no work, so doesn't leave us much options here in the UK and to be honest I don't want to live anywhere else over here. The world would be a great place if we all had the same opinions, and I quiet frankly cannot see why my reasons are poor reason to go. I wish you well with your little one and hope your move back to the UK is a happy one. It is not so much that your reasons are poor, it's just that for me personally, there need to be other reasons to emigrate in addition to wanting to escape a bunch of UK socio-economic problems. I am sure you have many other personal reasons for going that you didn't list, and in that respect, I hope that Oz offers you a chance to explore and fulfill those. It is very true that you have to experience it to make your judgement. Everyone has their own personal expectations after all. We have absolutely no regrets about the whole experience and I hope it works out for you and your family. Thanks for your best wishes! HP |
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