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LouiseD Nov 14th 2006 11:02 pm

Re: Why did you move to Australia in the first place.
 

Originally Posted by FPM
I find it more like Planet of the Apes :cool:

:D PMSL

by the sea side Nov 14th 2006 11:41 pm

Re: Why did you move to Australia in the first place.
 

Originally Posted by sassenach
Got to agree ,the God squad dont treat anybody with any respect if you dare utter a word against Godsville .Why dont they just leave us in peace to rip the piss out of the joint and they can sit back and enjoy their mediochre,materialistic ,up them selves lifestyle .
While we of a higher intellectual intelligence can look at life in a deeper more meaningful plain .
:)

very well said. :)

by the sea side Nov 14th 2006 11:44 pm

Re: Why did you move to Australia in the first place.
 

Originally Posted by LouiseD
Hey nice to meet someone else who belonged to that very elite group :D

This makes another one.

northernbird Nov 15th 2006 12:20 am

Re: Why did you move to Australia in the first place.
 

Originally Posted by jond
Hi

I often read this forum and I am interested in what brought you to Australia in the first place.

Was it the promises of low cost of living, only having to work from 12-1.00 with an hour for lunch, beach, BBQs, etc. And how long was it before you realised that you had made a big mistake.

I will start the ball rolling. We moved here a year ago, we had a very comfortable lifestyle in the UK. Nice house in a nice area, good jobs, holidays etc. But over the last 5-6 years we had both become a bit restless and we decided if we don't give it a go now before we realised it we would be drawing our OAP and wondering what if?

It was quite easy for us to settle as all my family with the exception of my Dad live out here and we had been out here loads of times for holidays.

And just for the record, we love it here and have no plans to move anywhere for the foreseeable future.

John

I came here with my husband who had a job offer here in Perth. We accepted the job knowing we would have a better standard of living as family than if we stayed in England.

chels Nov 15th 2006 1:06 am

Re: Why did you move to Australia in the first place.
 
We also moved over because OH was offered a job here. We would have moved somewhere, though maybe not as far as Australia if the offer hadn't come up. We were thinking more along the lines of Bristol... :o

Lord Pom Percy Nov 15th 2006 1:13 am

Re: Why did you move to Australia in the first place.
 

Originally Posted by FPM
I find it more like Planet of the Apes :cool:

Apes are further up the evolutionarty tree.. :p

aston man Nov 15th 2006 1:52 am

Re: Why did you move to Australia in the first place.
 

Originally Posted by sassenach
I actually dont know why i moved here to be honest ,i suppose it was somthing to do at the time and before i know it i got 2 grown up kids running around saying ''bloody oath mate '' ,''But '' ,''Eh maaate'',. :)

hey mate if you dont know why you moved,do you want me to remind you what its like down your old neck off the woods.great Barr that is...

only joking mate,i can think of worse places to live.well only a couple :D

dont forget to save me a few bricks.I'm out in jan for a month any chance of me coming to lay a few bricks with you?dont forget I'm cheap! 2 bottles of beer a day i think was our agreement.

take care mate ,keep doing your bit for us brummies over there...

m.

Mercedes Nov 15th 2006 2:55 pm

Re: Why did you move to Australia in the first place.
 
Went over there on a WHV and then got sponsored to stay there by one of the Finance Companies. My wages were 3 times what I was earning in the UK for doing the same job. My lifestyle was therefore better, I had more money to spend. I also found it easier to get into industries that I wanted to get into as well. I also liked the fact it was multicultured and that I found GP who practiced eastern and western medicines. It also made me take more of an interest in the Eastern cultures which I hadn't been exposed to before and it's religion. I also liked the fact it was more outdoory so again could pursue sports that I wouldn't have done in the UK, due to the weather.

A country is only as boring as the person lets it be.

busterboy Nov 15th 2006 5:07 pm

Re: Why did you move to Australia in the first place.
 

Originally Posted by Mercedes
A country is only as boring as the person lets it be.


I totally agree :)

LouiseD Nov 15th 2006 7:07 pm

Re: Why did you move to Australia in the first place.
 

Originally Posted by Mercedes
Went over there on a WHV and then got sponsored to stay there by one of the Finance Companies. My wages were 3 times what I was earning in the UK for doing the same job. My lifestyle was therefore better, I had more money to spend. I also found it easier to get into industries that I wanted to get into as well. I also liked the fact it was multicultured and that I found GP who practiced eastern and western medicines. It also made me take more of an interest in the Eastern cultures which I hadn't been exposed to before and it's religion. I also liked the fact it was more outdoory so again could pursue sports that I wouldn't have done in the UK, due to the weather.

A country is only as boring as the person lets it be.

Good post. It's true that there is access to a wider variety of health options here - every street seems to have different types of practicioners and health/wellbeing centres etc. I've really enjoyed the fact that it's so multicultural here too.

I don't agree with your last statement though. You are earning 3 times your UK salary, which will therefore enable you to persue activities, leisure interests, travel if you so wish. You said yourself that your lifestyle is better because you earn more.

We've found the opposite here - in the UK we had higher salaries so were able to go out more, travel more, try more things - hubby was even just getting into flying lessons which would be ridiculous to even dream about here. We love trying different things but for many persuits to do need dosh.

There are only so many "free" activities you can do. :)

iamthecreaturefromuranus Nov 15th 2006 7:24 pm

Re: Why did you move to Australia in the first place.
 

Originally Posted by Mercedes
A country is only as boring as the person lets it be.

If I face West from where I am now its 2,000 miles to the next city and the only 'point of interest' in between is a big rock. Face East from my previous home in the UK and in the same 2,000 miles there would be 300milion people, a hundred major cities, 1,000's of towns and more history and culture than you could possible see in a lifetime.. I think you will find this is why some people find the place boring.

chels Nov 15th 2006 9:57 pm

Re: Why did you move to Australia in the first place.
 

Originally Posted by Mercedes

A country is only as boring as the person lets it be.

In my case, I have to disagree. I find Australia boring (and I live in one of the liveliest cities) because what it has to offer doesn't match what I like out of life. The culture is very much based on outdoor activities, sporting pursuits and family-orientated interests.

I apologise for not wanting to jump up and down with joy (I originally wrote something quite rude but didn't want to offend anyone) every time I see another beach, or view another never-ending landscape of hills and trees and what-not. It looks nice. But after acknowledging the 'beauty' of the landscape, its attractions end there. I'm not going to get on my bike and explore it, because I don't find 'exploring' very interesting. Esp. when the new place we are exploring looks just like the place we explored the previous week.

We do the same things every year. This weekend, for the third year in a row, we'll be going to Sculpture by the Sea. I enjoy this event, but I'd love for there to be something else to do instead of it.

Mercedes Nov 16th 2006 2:36 am

Re: Why did you move to Australia in the first place.
 
Okay, now I shall bore you. :D

I came in the early late 80's so it was 3 times then. Then we had the recession of 92/93 when my industry got hit quite hard like many other. 92 was my worst year. I split up from my husband, he cleared out our bank account, I was on my way to visit a friend in Darwin who I met when I was travelling. I found out he had cleared out our account in Alice Springs. I had $100 to my name and didn't know whether to go back or forward. I opted forward. She was kind enough to put me up until I got on my feet. It took me approx 3 weeks to get work, which every day I went cold calling on businesses there and ringing from a phone box. I got lucky I got a job selling computers and software to local Government and education. 7 months later the company made a load of us redundant because the Government had introduced a manatory employer contribution of I think 3% of the annual salaries of their employers. The employer couldn't afford to do that on top of salaries. So half of his staff went in the end. That was 2 weeks before xmas. I was lucky that he paid me until the end of Jan. I had to give up my flat as I couldn't afford to keep it on. It took me 3 months to get work again, with me cold calling everyone. I was lucky that people I hardly knew took me in until I got work and they didn't expect anything in return. The kindness of strangers who became good friends. After that I didn't have any problems in the work area. But during that time when I wasn't working, I kept myself busy, I played volleyball which was free. borrowed somones bike, used a hotels swimming pool, another friend took me flying and gliding and his friend taught me parachuting. I even took up Fencing as in sword fighting. Boredom is a killer for me, so I find what I need to do to keep me occupied. I even brought a bucket and sponge and went door to door car washing. The money I got from that also helped.

I was in Australia 12 years, 3 melbourne, 3 Darwin, 3 sydney, 1 year travelling. 6 months Perth, 18 months Brisbane. Each time I had to find work, make new friends and create a life for me. So maybe doing it that way I didn't get bored. Culture wise as I said I got interested in the Eastern and alternative medicine. I had Australian friends from Japanese, Indonesian, Vietmese, South African, Kiwi, Italian, Greek, German, Polish and British backgrounds. So with having those kinds of friends I was invited to their homes and weddings, and experienced cultures/nationalities foods etc that I hadn't come across before. I remember going to a jewish house on one of their days, and all these complete strangers included me in their cermony and also each gave me presents. It was totally unexpected and I was also touched by it.

My vietmese friend was also interesting as she had escaped from the war and she opened my eyes to how hard her life had been also. Her experience also motivated in me in thinking she had more against her than I did, and if she could do it then so could I. I worked for a company that was predominatly Japanese which opened another door which was interesting to me and another culture which I had no real knowledge for. That was in Sydney. So I met some interesting people. By cold calling companies I also created interesting jobs within industries that were also new to me and I met interestiing people through them. When I left I was on $70,000, I'm on more now.

So apart from interesting industries and people and exploring sports that I hadn't done before, it may have helped me not find Australia so boring. I'm no longer in Australia I'm now in Europe and I'm company director of a company my business partner and I started a couple of years back. It again is in a totally different industry that I have worked in before and again I created an opporunity in it. We have become one of the leaders in our industry and recently we have had interest for us to join forces with other companies in Australia, USA, Europe and the Middle East. My experience in Australia the good and bad, gave me confidence to achieve working in any industry that I was interested in. It made me self reliant and independent. All which I didn't really have when I went there. I found that when the chips were down many Australians were supportive of me, gave me help when I really needed it, because if they hadn't taken me in, I would have probably ended up on a park bench, because that is how broke I was at one stage. In fact I lived on mangos and water for a few months because I didn't want to borrow money. It was great for the waist line, so there is always something positive that comes from a negative.

The many forms of kindness throughout Oz when I was ranged from a Taxi man in Perth giving me a ride all the way home, because I had asked him to stop a few miles from where I was staying as I didn't have enough money to get all the way home, and he realised I didn't, so he took me home. Another time I was hitch hiking as I had an an inteview and two women put some money in my hand to get the bus as they were concerned about my welfare. Another woman gave me a present again in Perth to cheer me up when I was sad about leaving a guy behind. In Sydney a client of mine lent me the use of his computers to learn a new skill and gave me a part time job on full time wages so I could pay the rent whilst I learnt, for 6 months. So I have good memories of the acts of kindness shown by many Australians in different parts.

Some places I wouldn't want to live in, and I met some people that I thought needed shooting. I didn't like the drink culture or footy, but I also don't like it in the UK.

But on the whole the postives outweighed the negatives for me. I'm personally glad that I had the opportuntity of being able to live out there. I learnt alot about myself, I found fear was a great movitivator in making things happen and get me off my bum, I became stronger and more resilient and things don't worry me too much as I know I survived once, I can always do it again should the need arise. I met some great people who when the chips were down were incredibly supportive and kind to me, but I also met some tossers who ripped me off.

Going to a new country isn't easy, and it can make or break you. The challenge for me was to find interesting people, jobs etc and do things that I hadn't done before. I certainly arrived back to the UK a completely different person to the one I left, and when I compare my life to those I left behind, it certainly has been more interesting than theirs. But I've found that things don't land in your lap, you have to make it happen wherever you are. I now live in Spain, it was more difficult as I had a language barrier, but I live amongst a Spanish community, brought a home again and created an interesting job again in a successful company. Life is to me what we make it, during the hard times, I had a saying I wrote on my diary which said Winners make things happen, losers let things happen and boredom makes you look grumpy. That was my motivation to get me out of bed.:D

A chapter of my life .....in Australia. :zzz:;)



Originally Posted by LouiseD
Good post. It's true that there is access to a wider variety of health options here - every street seems to have different types of practicioners and health/wellbeing centres etc. I've really enjoyed the fact that it's so multicultural here too.

I don't agree with your last statement though. You are earning 3 times your UK salary, which will therefore enable you to persue activities, leisure interests, travel if you so wish. You said yourself that your lifestyle is better because you earn more.

We've found the opposite here - in the UK we had higher salaries so were able to go out more, travel more, try more things - hubby was even just getting into flying lessons which would be ridiculous to even dream about here. We love trying different things but for many persuits to do need dosh.

There are only so many "free" activities you can do. :)


LouiseD Nov 16th 2006 3:15 am

Re: Why did you move to Australia in the first place.
 

Originally Posted by iamthecreaturefromuranus
If I face West from where I am now its 2,000 miles to the next city and the only 'point of interest' in between is a big rock. Face East from my previous home in the UK and in the same 2,000 miles there would be 300milion people, a hundred major cities, 1,000's of towns and more history and culture than you could possible see in a lifetime.. I think you will find this is why some people find the place boring.

:D Brilliant!

LouiseD Nov 16th 2006 4:52 am

Re: Why did you move to Australia in the first place.
 

Originally Posted by Mercedes
Okay, now I shall bore you. :D

I came in the early late 80's so it was 3 times then. Then we had the recession of 92/93 when my industry got hit quite hard like many other. 92 was my worst year. I split up from my husband, he cleared out our bank account, I was on my way to visit a friend in Darwin who I met when I was travelling. I found out he had cleared out our account in Alice Springs. I had $100 to my name and didn't know whether to go back or forward. I opted forward. She was kind enough to put me up until I got on my feet. It took me approx 3 weeks to get work, which every day I went cold calling on businesses there and ringing from a phone box. I got lucky I got a job selling computers and software to local Government and education. 7 months later the company made a load of us redundant because the Government had introduced a manatory employer contribution of I think 3% of the annual salaries of their employers. The employer couldn't afford to do that on top of salaries. So half of his staff went in the end. That was 2 weeks before xmas. I was lucky that he paid me until the end of Jan. I had to give up my flat as I couldn't afford to keep it on. It took me 3 months to get work again, with me cold calling everyone. I was lucky that people I hardly knew took me in until I got work and they didn't expect anything in return. The kindness of strangers who became good friends. After that I didn't have any problems in the work area. But during that time when I wasn't working, I kept myself busy, I played volleyball which was free. borrowed somones bike, used a hotels swimming pool, another friend took me flying and gliding and his friend taught me parachuting. I even took up Fencing as in sword fighting. Boredom is a killer for me, so I find what I need to do to keep me occupied. I even brought a bucket and sponge and went door to door car washing. The money I got from that also helped.

I was in Australia 12 years, 3 melbourne, 3 Darwin, 3 sydney, 1 year travelling. 6 months Perth, 18 months Brisbane. Each time I had to find work, make new friends and create a life for me. So maybe doing it that way I didn't get bored. Culture wise as I said I got interested in the Eastern and alternative medicine. I had Australian friends from Japanese, Indonesian, Vietmese, South African, Kiwi, Italian, Greek, German, Polish and British backgrounds. So with having those kinds of friends I was invited to their homes and weddings, and experienced cultures/nationalities foods etc that I hadn't come across before. I remember going to a jewish house on one of their days, and all these complete strangers included me in their cermony and also each gave me presents. It was totally unexpected and I was also touched by it.

My vietmese friend was also interesting as she had escaped from the war and she opened my eyes to how hard her life had been also. Her experience also motivated in me in thinking she had more against her than I did, and if she could do it then so could I. I worked for a company that was predominatly Japanese which opened another door which was interesting to me and another culture which I had no real knowledge for. That was in Sydney. So I met some interesting people. By cold calling companies I also created interesting jobs within industries that were also new to me and I met interestiing people through them. When I left I was on $70,000, I'm on more now.

So apart from interesting industries and people and exploring sports that I hadn't done before, it may have helped me not find Australia so boring. I'm no longer in Australia I'm now in Europe and I'm company director of a company my business partner and I started a couple of years back. It again is in a totally different industry that I have worked in before and again I created an opporunity in it. We have become one of the leaders in our industry and recently we have had interest for us to join forces with other companies in Australia, USA, Europe and the Middle East. My experience in Australia the good and bad, gave me confidence to achieve working in any industry that I was interested in. It made me self reliant and independent. All which I didn't really have when I went there. I found that when the chips were down many Australians were supportive of me, gave me help when I really needed it, because if they hadn't taken me in, I would have probably ended up on a park bench, because that is how broke I was at one stage. In fact I lived on mangos and water for a few months because I didn't want to borrow money. It was great for the waist line, so there is always something positive that comes from a negative.

The many forms of kindness throughout Oz when I was ranged from a Taxi man in Perth giving me a ride all the way home, because I had asked him to stop a few miles from where I was staying as I didn't have enough money to get all the way home, and he realised I didn't, so he took me home. Another time I was hitch hiking as I had an an inteview and two women put some money in my hand to get the bus as they were concerned about my welfare. Another woman gave me a present again in Perth to cheer me up when I was sad about leaving a guy behind. In Sydney a client of mine lent me the use of his computers to learn a new skill and gave me a part time job on full time wages so I could pay the rent whilst I learnt, for 6 months. So I have good memories of the acts of kindness shown by many Australians in different parts.

Some places I wouldn't want to live in, and I met some people that I thought needed shooting. I didn't like the drink culture or footy, but I also don't like it in the UK.

But on the whole the postives outweighed the negatives for me. I'm personally glad that I had the opportuntity of being able to live out there. I learnt alot about myself, I found fear was a great movitivator in making things happen and get me off my bum, I became stronger and more resilient and things don't worry me too much as I know I survived once, I can always do it again should the need arise. I met some great people who when the chips were down were incredibly supportive and kind to me, but I also met some tossers who ripped me off.

Going to a new country isn't easy, and it can make or break you. The challenge for me was to find interesting people, jobs etc and do things that I hadn't done before. I certainly arrived back to the UK a completely different person to the one I left, and when I compare my life to those I left behind, it certainly has been more interesting than theirs. But I've found that things don't land in your lap, you have to make it happen wherever you are. I now live in Spain, it was more difficult as I had a language barrier, but I live amongst a Spanish community, brought a home again and created an interesting job again in a successful company. Life is to me what we make it, during the hard times, I had a saying I wrote on my diary which said Winners make things happen, losers let things happen and boredom makes you look grumpy. That was my motivation to get me out of bed.:D

A chapter of my life .....in Australia. :zzz:;)

Hi Mercedes

Wow you've certainly worked hard to recover from the rat who fleeced you! Really good post and very interesting story, thanks for sharing it. It's right that it is the way you look at things and you sometimes have to work at things to make them happen.

The thing is for us, we're tired of working to make things happen. I've done all the working at things that I feel I want to - we knew it would be hard starting a new life here, but not this hard.

Years ago in the eighties recession, we got into financial trouble, got into very serious debt, ended up with a very shady loan company who really stitched us up and we owed them an absolute fortune. Dont want to bore everyone with the details but we went through years of turmoil, working hard bringing up two kids etc. doing all the free things that we could so that it wouldnt drive us mad.It could quite easily have driven us apart but in fact it brought us closer together. We worked our backsides off, paid off said debts and saved like mad. This enabled us to enjoy holidays overseas, to travel, go to nice restaurants, theatres, shows, shop for nice things for our kids etc. That is what we enjoy doing - I know some on here will scoff but I don't care - that's us and it's what we enjoy doing. We came here with the expectation that we would be able to do the same - explore the place, visit other cities, go to city restaurants etc. Because of our earnings here we cant do the things that we enjoy. So we are cutting our losses and going back to what we know so that we can hopefully recoup what we've lost. :)


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