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johnh009 Oct 12th 2009 1:45 am

Re: Where to re-settle in UK?
 

Originally Posted by aes1 (Post 8006982)
King Kong, I am going back soon and am focusing on Dorset, even though I have never lived there and really have no first hand experience of it. I am wondering why you say it gets your vote..... I would be looking at the coast. Any info much appreciated. I am not planning on buying, just renting a flat for now.

Another place worth looking at is the Glossop area in north-west Derbyshire. For those who need to find work, many of the north's major cities are easily accessible from here, especially the Manchester area.

johnh009 Oct 12th 2009 1:58 am

Re: Where to re-settle in UK?
 

Originally Posted by formula (Post 8010343)
The Welsh people are from Britain (Brits) too.

Were'nt the Welsh the original inhabitants of England driven into hills of what is now Wales by the Romans?

king kong Oct 12th 2009 3:05 pm

Re: Where to re-settle in UK?
 

Originally Posted by johnh009 (Post 8010366)
Were'nt the Welsh the original inhabitants of England driven into hills of what is now Wales by the Romans?

the welsh[stranger in old english] were pushed back by the germanic raiders ,well thats the theory anyway .Think its been said that the make up of the british isles especially england is more anglo-celt than anglo-saxon ,so a degree of racial mixing must have gone on .

onceinalifetime Oct 13th 2009 10:13 am

Re: Where to re-settle in UK?
 
Okay, my understanding of it is this. The Brython were the ancient Celts, the Romans turned up and decided it was Brittania - the land of the Brythons. So the Brits are the Celts. Pliny the Elder describes it (Britain) as 'Albion' in about 50AD. What he was doing in west Bromwich at this time is debatable, but my guess is that he was there watching a football team being promoted/relegated in alternate years from the celtic/roman premiership.

It wasn't until the arrival of the Saxons, who described non-Saxon's as strangers/foreigners: 'Walh' or 'Wallas' (Not to be confused at this point with 'where's Walhy?') This tradition has continued in the Anglo-saxon tribe, who still view everyone as foreigners, unless they are qualified to play sport for their adopted country and then they are English. The word 'Walh' can also of course be found in Cornwall, walnut (because it came from foreign lands) and the names Wallace Wallis etc. So William Wallace was William the Stranger, but then there is nothing stranger than an anti-semitic Australian who thinks he's American, pretending to be Scottish, painted blue with nothing on under his kilt.

With regard to the cottage burning question, I can assure you that in the current recession, the only people burning down holiday homes in Wales are the owners as an insurance job.

king kong Oct 13th 2009 2:27 pm

Re: Where to re-settle in UK?
 

Originally Posted by onceinalifetime (Post 8014093)
Okay, my understanding of it is this. The Brython were the ancient Celts, the Romans turned up and decided it was Brittania - the land of the Brythons. So the Brits are the Celts. Pliny the Elder describes it (Britain) as 'Albion' in about 50AD. What he was doing in west Bromwich at this time is debatable, but my guess is that he was there watching a football team being promoted/relegated in alternate years from the celtic/roman premiership.

It wasn't until the arrival of the Saxons, who described non-Saxon's as strangers/foreigners: 'Walh' or 'Wallas' (Not to be confused at this point with 'where's Walhy?') This tradition has continued in the Anglo-saxon tribe, who still view everyone as foreigners, unless they are qualified to play sport for their adopted country and then they are English. The word 'Walh' can also of course be found in Cornwall, walnut (because it came from foreign lands) and the names Wallace Wallis etc. So William Wallace was William the Stranger, but then there is nothing stranger than an anti-semitic Australian who thinks he's American, pretending to be Scottish, painted blue with nothing on under his kilt.

With regard to the cottage burning question, I can assure you that in the current recession, the only people burning down holiday homes in Wales are the owners as an insurance job.

Good post , but i think he is an anti-semitic american who the australians think is australian .

Kapri Oct 13th 2009 8:32 pm

Re: Where to re-settle in UK?
 
I can tell you about West Dorset :D

Good points:

Beautiful rolling hills and stunning coast line.
Great schools
Lowest crime rate in Britain
Easy access to France / Europe/ channel islands by ferry; this ensures better weather & less traffic for holidays.
Milder climate than much of U.K if you live on the coast. I rarely have to scrape frost from my windscreen in winter.
Lots to do outdoors at weekends - on land and sea :thumbup:

Bad points:

High unemployment in seaside towns, leading to social problems such as drug use being widespread.
Rubbish shopping (I do lots on-line)
Nearest big cities - Southampton and Bristol both at least an hour and a half's drive away.


Hope that helps :)

king kong Oct 13th 2009 8:53 pm

Re: Where to re-settle in UK?
 

Originally Posted by Kapri (Post 8015034)
I can tell you about West Dorset :D

Good points:

Beautiful rolling hills and stunning coast line.
Great schools
Lowest crime rate in Britain
Easy access to France / Europe/ channel islands by ferry; this ensures better weather & less traffic for holidays.
Milder climate than much of U.K if you live on the coast. I rarely have to scrape frost from my windscreen in winter.
Lots to do outdoors at weekends - on land and sea :thumbup:

Bad points:

High unemployment in seaside towns, leading to social problems such as drug use being widespread.
Rubbish shopping (I do lots on-line)
Nearest big cities - Southampton and Bristol both at least an hour and a half's drive away.


Hope that helps :)

Isnt the shopping anygood in bournemouth /poole or dorchester kapri ? i always found them better than the crap here

Kapri Oct 13th 2009 9:17 pm

Re: Where to re-settle in UK?
 

Originally Posted by king kong (Post 8015072)
Isnt the shopping anygood in bournemouth /poole or dorchester kapri ? i always found them better than the crap here

Hi KK,

Both Weymouth and Dorch have shops like M&S, Next etc but they aren't big shops, so the stock is limited.
The supermarkets aren't the big ones that sell clothes, tv's etc - you have to go to yeovil (half hour) or Poole (45mins) for that.

Poole & Bournemouth have better shops but they are at least an hour to get to by the time you've driven in and parked etc.

For a lot of people this won't be a huge problem, particularly with on-line shopping being so easy. When I first moved here 4 years ago, I really missed big shops, but I don't now. It just means having a whole day out to somewhere like Southampton where the shopping is fab :)

Jules Europe Oct 13th 2009 9:43 pm

Re: Where to re-settle in UK?
 

Originally Posted by Kapri (Post 8015121)
Hi KK,

Both Weymouth and Dorch have shops like M&S, Next etc but they aren't big shops, so the stock is limited.
The supermarkets aren't the big ones that sell clothes, tv's etc - you have to go to yeovil (half hour) or Poole (45mins) for that.

Poole & Bournemouth have better shops but they are at least an hour to get to by the time you've driven in and parked etc.

For a lot of people this won't be a huge problem, particularly with on-line shopping being so easy. When I first moved here 4 years ago, I really missed big shops, but I don't now. It just means having a whole day out to somewhere like Southampton where the shopping is fab :)

I always heard that Southampton was great for shopping but not so good as a place in which to live.

king kong Oct 13th 2009 10:36 pm

Re: Where to re-settle in UK?
 

Originally Posted by Kapri (Post 8015121)
Hi KK,

Both Weymouth and Dorch have shops like M&S, Next etc but they aren't big shops, so the stock is limited.
The supermarkets aren't the big ones that sell clothes, tv's etc - you have to go to yeovil (half hour) or Poole (45mins) for that.

Poole & Bournemouth have better shops but they are at least an hour to get to by the time you've driven in and parked etc.

For a lot of people this won't be a huge problem, particularly with on-line shopping being so easy. When I first moved here 4 years ago, I really missed big shops, but I don't now. It just means having a whole day out to somewhere like Southampton where the shopping is fab :)

yes i always found the shops more than adequate in bournemouth especialy ,less so in poole and southampton is just fine like any city in the uk ,just wouldnt live there

aes1 Oct 13th 2009 11:33 pm

Re: Where to re-settle in UK?
 

Originally Posted by Kapri (Post 8015121)
Hi KK,

Both Weymouth and Dorch have shops like M&S, Next etc but they aren't big shops, so the stock is limited.
The supermarkets aren't the big ones that sell clothes, tv's etc - you have to go to yeovil (half hour) or Poole (45mins) for that.

Poole & Bournemouth have better shops but they are at least an hour to get to by the time you've driven in and parked etc.

For a lot of people this won't be a huge problem, particularly with on-line shopping being so easy. When I first moved here 4 years ago, I really missed big shops, but I don't now. It just means having a whole day out to somewhere like Southampton where the shopping is fab :)


Kapri, where do you live in Dorset, you say Poole is 45 mins away, is that by car or public transport? I don't intend getting a car so that's a concern of mine. Would love to be able to get by train to Southampton, though, isn't that where they have an IKEA? I would work for them, given a chance, love my IKEA!!!

johnh009 Oct 14th 2009 3:19 am

Re: Where to re-settle in UK?
 

Originally Posted by onceinalifetime (Post 8014093)
So William Wallace was William the Stranger, but then there is nothing stranger than an anti-semitic Australian who thinks he's American, pretending to be Scottish, painted blue with nothing on under his kilt.

But Mel Gibson saved the Scottish nation; I have seen his statue in Stirling that proves this.

Mummy in the foothills Oct 14th 2009 5:12 am

Re: Where to re-settle in UK?
 

Originally Posted by onceinalifetime (Post 8014093)
Okay, my understanding of it is this. The Brython were the ancient Celts, the Romans turned up and decided it was Brittania - the land of the Brythons. So the Brits are the Celts. Pliny the Elder describes it (Britain) as 'Albion' in about 50AD. What he was doing in west Bromwich at this time is debatable, but my guess is that he was there watching a football team being promoted/relegated in alternate years from the celtic/roman premiership.

It wasn't until the arrival of the Saxons, who described non-Saxon's as strangers/foreigners: 'Walh' or 'Wallas' (Not to be confused at this point with 'where's Walhy?') This tradition has continued in the Anglo-saxon tribe, who still view everyone as foreigners, unless they are qualified to play sport for their adopted country and then they are English. The word 'Walh' can also of course be found in Cornwall, walnut (because it came from foreign lands) and the names Wallace Wallis etc. So William Wallace was William the Stranger, but then there is nothing stranger than an anti-semitic Australian who thinks he's American, pretending to be Scottish, painted blue with nothing on under his kilt.

With regard to the cottage burning question, I can assure you that in the current recession, the only people burning down holiday homes in Wales are the owners as an insurance job.

:lol:

katana Oct 15th 2009 3:44 am

Re: Where to re-settle in UK?
 

Originally Posted by aes1 (Post 8006982)
King Kong, I am going back soon and am focusing on Dorset, even though I have never lived there and really have no first hand experience of it. I am wondering why you say it gets your vote..... I would be looking at the coast. Any info much appreciated. I am not planning on buying, just renting a flat for now.

Dorset is great,after 6 years in France we're heading back as soon as the house sells.Quite pricey but well worth it.We'll never be able to buy there but we're happy to rent just to get back.Poole/Bournemouth is nice if you want the coast.:thumbsup:

Dances With Skunks Oct 15th 2009 6:44 am

Re: Where to re-settle in UK?
 

Originally Posted by johnh009 (Post 8016044)
But Mel Gibson saved the Scottish nation; I have seen his statue in Stirling that proves this.

That is one of the tackiest things I have seen, the statue I mean - ranks alongside the "Happy Rock" (looked like SpongeBobSquarePants only craggier) I saw in Gladstone, Manitoba. You have to wonder what the people who run the castle were thinking.


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