Originally Posted by Hills (Post 7408278)

Decided Oz wasn't for our family so made all the necessary arrangements to go home to the U.K.....shipping container gone....money transferred.....house gone......booked flights ........then disaster!!!!! Atempted to fly twice but our son is so terrified he could not do it even with heavy sedation....so we are now stranded in Oz ....does anyone out there know how to get back to the U.K without flying??? Please Help

Originally Posted by Mummy in the foothills (Post 7412233)

Here you go Cunard can bring you home, and all your excess luggage too. Plus pets.
I'd love to send Dh back by cunard to Southampton he hates to fly.
I hope you find a solution soon.

Originally Posted by Hills (Post 7408278)

Decided Oz wasn't for our family so made all the necessary arrangements to go home to the U.K.....shipping container gone....money transferred.....house gone......booked flights ........then disaster!!!!! Atempted to fly twice but our son is so terrified he could not do it even with heavy sedation....so we are now stranded in Oz ....does anyone out there know how to get back to the U.K without flying??? Please Help

Originally Posted by Bevm (Post 7497492)

I've had panic attacks, so I know how awful they can be, and often there's no particular cause. I'm not a nervous person. They were physiological as it turned out, but no one saw them that way for ages. (Ladies, if you ever have them, get your ferritin level checked. It's iron stores, and that was the sole cause of mine.)

I'd want this son to have a thorough medical check first -- hormones, brain chemicals etc. Then taught some stress blocking techniques, mainly breathing. I'd also do all the same for the mother, and whatever sedatives he gets, she gets, because stress is very easily communicated.

It is really hard to believe that modern medicine doesn't have a happy juice to get him through this. On a more basic level, have they tried bribery? That implies he has more control over this than it seems, but he might not know that. If there's something he really, really, really wants but is unlikely to get as things are, it might work wonders.

Bev

Originally Posted by Bevm (Post 7497492)

I've had panic attacks, so I know how awful they can be, and often there's no particular cause. I'm not a nervous person. They were physiological as it turned out, but no one saw them that way for ages. (Ladies, if you ever have them, get your ferritin level checked. It's iron stores, and that was the sole cause of mine.)

Bev

Originally Posted by OrkneytoPortugal (Post 7499306)

I'm really interested in this. Does it mean that if you are anaemic you are more likely to be prone to panic attacks? We found out recently that my daughter's migraines were linked to her being iron-depleted. My own panic attacks certainly started at puberty, when I became a vegetarian and started menstruating, so there was possibly a link there. Fascinating, isn't it?

Originally Posted by Bevm (Post 7501771)

Yes, and for some reason the medical community just won't catch on! Any woman in menstruating years who has one of these odd things -- panic attacks, chronic fatigue, migraines, fibromyalgia... First check her iron stores. It's an easy thing to do. If they're fine, then move on to other causes.

But apparently most women in their menstruating years have low stores (not clinically low, but lower than optimum), and it has effects, even if not serious ones. They do slightly less well at physical and mental tasks, for example. Handle stress less well etc etc

As you can tell, it's a soap box of mine.

Bev