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brits1 May 12th 2008 3:58 pm

Re: Stats on Reasons for Moving Back
 

Originally Posted by achanginglife (Post 6338165)
Here are the percentages of reasons from the 'Main Reason for Moving Back' thread, if anyone wants to know:
Miss family - 27%
Standard of Living better at 'home' - 23%
Climate - 23%
Miss 'home' - 14%
Misc - 13%
Isn't it interesting how similar these are to reasons for emigrating in the first place, with the exception of missing family.

I would like to ask those wanting to move back:
1. Thinking back before you came, would you still have done it, knowing what you now know?
2. What do you wish you had known before you moved?

1. No way......they say you learn from your mistakes but this one was the one that nearly "Broke the camels back"

2. Just how good we did "have it"......and how much more we appreciate our family and friends all of whom are still living in and loving the U.K!!!!

achanginglife May 12th 2008 4:01 pm

Re: Stats on Reasons for Moving Back
 

Originally Posted by JoolsB (Post 6338642)
I never in a million years thought I would be posting here and I feel like a prize idiot after waxing lyrical about Aus for years (my family left Aus for the UK when I was 4 and have always wanted to return but I think it's just too late-I am now just too "English")
:eek::ohmy::o

I don't think anyone here should feel anything less than a huge sense of achievement. If it takes going to a new country to learn that much about yourself, well I'm glad I did it. When we went back to UK, every one said 'oh never mind it didn't work out,' like they were kind of pleased, we had failed. That used to really annoy me, because I don't consider it a failure to try something and make a choice once you have all the facts. Sometimes you have to have lived somewhere to get the real facts.
I loved being back in England, for 2 years and then decided to give it another go in Canada, and now I love it here too.
Not sure I would do it that way again though! but it all worked out in the end.
I think the key to making the right choices first time round is 'knowing yourself' and what you value. Choosing a destination with a culture, people and surroundings that supports and encourages those same values. That can be hard to research beforehand.

JoolsB May 12th 2008 4:11 pm

Re: Stats on Reasons for Moving Back
 

Originally Posted by achanginglife (Post 6342386)
Choosing a destination with a culture, people and surroundings that supports and encourages those same values. That can be hard to research beforehand.

So true! I originally felt the urge to return to Aus 10 years ago when OH and I had a 2nd wedding here for my Aus family in Sydney and our Queensland honeymoon (we couldn't emigrate then as my OH's son was only small-he is now 17).

However, back then being young & green all I was really into was drinking, eating & sunbathing so Aus suited me perfectly. Over the past 10 years since the idea first seeded I have changed as a person-drinking is no longer my raison d'etre and I am more into museums, historical sites and galleries than lying on the beach. It is all just TOO LATE! Aus does not support any of my values:(

No, wait here's an exciting local event for me!!:

THE GIPPSLAND POTATO SCULPTURES
An exciting, locally produced large-scale installation is coming to Fed Square, celebrating the United Nation's International Year of the Potato and highlighting Victoria's potato growing regions.

rabsody May 12th 2008 6:05 pm

Re: Stats on Reasons for Moving Back
 

Originally Posted by JoolsB (Post 6342403)
However, back then being young & green all I was really into was drinking, eating & sunbathing so Aus suited me perfectly. Over the past 10 years since the idea first seeded I have changed as a person-drinking is no longer my raison d'etre and I am more into museums, historical sites and galleries than lying on the beach. It is all just TOO LATE! Aus does not support any of my values:(.

OMG, I was just saying this to my mum the other night on the phone. When I first came to Oz on a working holiday all I was into was partying and sunbathing and couldn't wait to get back here to live permanently. When we did move back we had two small kids so it was good at that stage in my life also. However, my kids are a bit older, I have totally changed as a person and what I want from life and I just feel I have outgrown Aus.

Like you Jools, I'm much more into museums, history and galleries and good conversation about books and politics. All these things are not exactly a priority in here! Main topics of conversation are sport, house prices and other equally yawnsome subjects LOL! :p I just find it so hard to find others on the same wavelength. :thumbdown:

We have some Aussie neighbours who are very cool, into art, have travelled, love a bit of a debate. They feel exactly the same about Brisbane and want to move to Melbourne or O/S once their kids have left home in a few years, so it's not just us expats who feel this way.

Renie May 12th 2008 7:17 pm

Re: Stats on Reasons for Moving Back
 

Originally Posted by rabsody (Post 6342614)
OMG, I was just saying this to my mum the other night on the phone. When I first came to Oz on a working holiday all I was into was partying and sunbathing and couldn't wait to get back here to live permanently. When we did move back we had two small kids so it was good at that stage in my life also. However, my kids are a bit older, I have totally changed as a person and what I want from life and I just feel I have outgrown Aus.

Like you Jools, I'm much more into museums, history and galleries and good conversation about books and politics. All these things are not exactly a priority in here! Main topics of conversation are sport, house prices and other equally yawnsome subjects LOL! :p I just find it so hard to find others on the same wavelength. :thumbdown:

We have some Aussie neighbours who are very cool, into art, have travelled, love a bit of a debate. They feel exactly the same about Brisbane and want to move to Melbourne or O/S once their kids have left home in a few years, so it's not just us expats who feel this way.

Hindsight is such a wonderful thing, knowing what I know now, would not have come here, but we told ourselves we would give it 2 years, get citizenship and if we didn't like it go back, sounds so easy, but everyday after those two years just get harder and harder and so desparate to get back home and I promise I will appreciate the UK more than ever before.

cherry6 May 12th 2008 7:42 pm

Re: Stats on Reasons for Moving Back
 

Originally Posted by achanginglife (Post 6338165)
Here are the percentages of reasons from the 'Main Reason for Moving Back' thread, if anyone wants to know:
Miss family - 27%
Standard of Living better at 'home' - 23%
Climate - 23%
Miss 'home' - 14%
Misc - 13%
Isn't it interesting how similar these are to reasons for emigrating in the first place, with the exception of missing family.

I would like to ask those wanting to move back:
1. Thinking back before you came, would you still have done it, knowing what you now know?
2. What do you wish you had known before you moved?

1. Yes, as i would never have been content with the UK otherwise. Its like an itch you have to scratch. What if.... can be hard to get over.

2. That a lot of Aussies are tossers. That there are more hidden taxes here than hot dinners. That Australian shops offer absolutely no choice. That food tastes bland here. That summer is too damn hot. That air con is a necessity. And i wish i had known just how boooorrrriiinnnggg Perth truly was.

Fleaflyfloflum May 12th 2008 8:05 pm

Re: Stats on Reasons for Moving Back
 
I am definitely a better person for doing it. If i knew the outcome I probably wouldnt have, but then that begs the question, what would you be like today if you hadnt... i dread to think! :lol:

JoolsB May 12th 2008 8:24 pm

Re: Stats on Reasons for Moving Back
 

Originally Posted by rabsody (Post 6342614)
Like you Jools, I'm much more into museums, history and galleries and good conversation about books and politics. All these things are not exactly a priority in here! Main topics of conversation are sport, house prices and other equally yawnsome subjects LOL! :p I just find it so hard to find others on the same wavelength. :thumbdown:

We have some Aussie neighbours who are very cool, into art, have travelled, love a bit of a debate. They feel exactly the same about Brisbane and want to move to Melbourne or O/S once their kids have left home in a few years, so it's not just us expats who feel this way.

We too have met a lovely, urbane Aussie couple who are very into the sort of things we are. They are currently planning a 2 month extravaganza of a trip to London & other European cities end of the year & asking our advice & are showing us the good things in Melbourne. Whilst I can appreciate it all-I just don't think it will be enough to satisfy me for a lifetime. Maybe we're just greedy!:o

tictac May 12th 2008 8:57 pm

Re: Stats on Reasons for Moving Back
 
1. Probably - the kids will gain life experiences which can never be taken away from them. They are involved in things which would not have been accessible to them in the UK. I also enjoy getting up to blue skies!

2. Day-to-day there are niggles (EG the media, get-rich quick mentality, standard of driving, life after dark) but *overall* I don't think it's a particularly bad place to be. However, deep down my *gut feeling* is that I don't really feel as though the 'effort' required to obtain this supposed 'better life' and *establish myself here long-term* is actually worth it. I try to look at things objectively and I really think that Australia, from what I've experienced to-date is *not that great* and that it can't offer me what *I need* out of *my life*. I think *all things considered* I got a better deal in the UK for my efforts. I really do think that we a get a 'bum deal' here compared to what we had in the UK. .

* signifies I've thought long and hard about these things ;)


Rabsody - do you think it's just a backward Brisbane/Queensland thing?

maka paka May 12th 2008 9:44 pm

Re: Stats on Reasons for Moving Back
 
Answer no 1: Absolutely not,the place bores the bejesus out of me!
Answer no2: I wish i would have known how heart breaking it would be, watching my daughter grow and flourish in the last 18 months,without one member of my close and extended family experiencing it.Especially as we were all really very close,which rings the question time and again in my head,"why the hell did we come here?"

ann m May 13th 2008 10:34 am

Re: Stats on Reasons for Moving Back
 

Originally Posted by maka paka (Post 6343382)
, watching my daughter grow and flourish in the last 18 months,without one member of my close and extended family experiencing it.

Puts on Devil's Advocate hat here - do your think your daughter would have grown and flourished in the same way in the Uk ?

I'm watching my two blossom at the moment - would things have been the same in their 'old life' ? I just don't know .... :confused:

Tootsie Frickensprinkles May 13th 2008 11:26 am

Re: Stats on Reasons for Moving Back
 

Originally Posted by ann m (Post 6346723)
Puts on Devil's Advocate hat here - do your think your daughter would have grown and flourished in the same way in the Uk ?

I'm watching my two blossom at the moment - would things have been the same in their 'old life' ? I just don't know .... :confused:

Young children will blossom wherever they are nurtured and loved in a stable environment. I've even seen estate kids move on out of it given the right support.

Jerseygirl May 13th 2008 11:36 am

Re: Stats on Reasons for Moving Back
 

Originally Posted by Tootsie Frickensprinkles (Post 6341558)
I was the same with popping into Greggs, pulling up at the bus stop to chat, tea with Mum and cherry blossom outside the bedroom window. And I think the reason I left where perhaps you stayed is you were given a get out clause and I knew I would be trapped. Knowing that I might have to live with those feelings forever with no power to chnage it was too much.

I would never have been able to replicate any part of my lifestyle and I didnt like what was around me to adapt to. There really was only one option for me.

That's right the fact that my husband's always said I just have to say the word and our tickets would be booked kept be sane and helped me stick it out. If he'd said there was no way he would go back to the UK...well I dread to think what would have happened.

rabsody May 13th 2008 11:38 am

Re: Stats on Reasons for Moving Back
 

Originally Posted by tictac (Post 6343161)
1. Probably - the kids will gain life experiences which can never be taken away from them. They are involved in things which would not have been accessible to them in the UK. I also enjoy getting up to blue skies!

2. Day-to-day there are niggles (EG the media, get-rich quick mentality, standard of driving, life after dark) but *overall* I don't think it's a particularly bad place to be. However, deep down my *gut feeling* is that I don't really feel as though the 'effort' required to obtain this supposed 'better life' and *establish myself here long-term* is actually worth it. I try to look at things objectively and I really think that Australia, from what I've experienced to-date is *not that great* and that it can't offer me what *I need* out of *my life*. I think *all things considered* I got a better deal in the UK for my efforts. I really do think that we a get a 'bum deal' here compared to what we had in the UK. .

* signifies I've thought long and hard about these things ;)


Rabsody - do you think it's just a backward Brisbane/Queensland thing?


Good post tictac. Could well be a Qld thing! ;) Funnily enough the reason in the past I never wanted to move to Sydney or Melbourne was because they were too much like the UK. :lol: Sydney, too much of a rat race and Melbourne, weather too similar to UK. Didn't think there was much point moving half way round the world for more of the same (very simplistic view, but you get the gist i'm sure). Now I am "over" Qld. Do you think you will go back Tictac? Do you have wife and kids in tow? Whereabout in the UK are you from?

JoolsB May 13th 2008 11:38 am

Re: Stats on Reasons for Moving Back
 

Originally Posted by Jerseygirl (Post 6346860)
That's right the fact that my husband's always said I just have to say the word and our tickets would be booked kept be sane and helped me stick it out. If he'd said there was no way he would go back to the UK...well I dread to think what would have happened.

Yes-husband agreeing we can go in a year if things no better has certainly cheered me up. I am now able to look on it all as an adventure/extended holiday rather than a life sentence.


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