The state of the Church in the UK
Oct 20th 2008, 8:16 am
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The next one to type this tripe will have their hands cut off, it's the law!
Oct 20th 2008, 8:24 am
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http://www.sheffieldtelegraph.co.uk/...day.4537397.jp
Oct 20th 2008, 8:28 am
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Probably also paper talk from what i read recently. Althought i might have gotten that story confused with the story on Sheffield council refusing christian burials at weekends so that the weekends can be kept open exclusively for muslim burials. And that story appears to have been true
http://www.sheffieldtelegraph.co.uk/...day.4537397.jp
http://www.sheffieldtelegraph.co.uk/...day.4537397.jp
Oct 20th 2008, 8:32 am
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Oct 21st 2008, 8:24 pm
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From the Times Online about Sharia in the UK.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle4749183.ece
Rulings issued by a network of five sharia courts are enforceable with the full power of the judicial system, through the county courts or High Court.
Previously, the rulings of sharia courts in Britain could not be enforced, and depended on voluntary compliance among Muslims.
It has now emerged that sharia courts with these powers have been set up in London, Birmingham, Bradford and Manchester with the network’s headquarters in Nuneaton, Warwickshire. Two more courts are being planned for Glasgow and Edinburgh.
Sheikh Faiz-ul-Aqtab Siddiqi, whose Muslim Arbitration Tribunal runs the courts, said he had taken advantage of a clause in the Arbitration Act 1996.
Previously, the rulings of sharia courts in Britain could not be enforced, and depended on voluntary compliance among Muslims.
It has now emerged that sharia courts with these powers have been set up in London, Birmingham, Bradford and Manchester with the network’s headquarters in Nuneaton, Warwickshire. Two more courts are being planned for Glasgow and Edinburgh.
Sheikh Faiz-ul-Aqtab Siddiqi, whose Muslim Arbitration Tribunal runs the courts, said he had taken advantage of a clause in the Arbitration Act 1996.
Oct 21st 2008, 8:36 pm
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Oct 21st 2008, 11:15 pm
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Siddiqi said that in a recent inheritance dispute handled by the court in Nuneaton, the estate of a Midlands man was divided between three daughters and two sons.
The judges on the panel gave the sons twice as much as the daughters, in accordance with sharia. Had the family gone to a normal British court, the daughters would have got equal amounts.
The judges on the panel gave the sons twice as much as the daughters, in accordance with sharia. Had the family gone to a normal British court, the daughters would have got equal amounts.
Oct 22nd 2008, 3:59 am
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I don't bother with going to any church. I think there is something said or written in the bible that says God sees and hears everything anywhere at any time. So if we need to pray, God can hear us just as well in our homes as in a church. So no need to go to church to be heard, IMO.
Oct 22nd 2008, 4:05 am
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I don't bother with going to any church. I think there is something said or written in the bible that says God sees and hears everything anywhere at any time. So if we need to pray, God can hear us just as well in our homes as in a church. So no need to go to church to be heard, IMO.
Oct 22nd 2008, 4:19 am
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For the more sceptic it could be just a matter of behaving badly all week, going to confession and getting absolved of your sins !
Oct 22nd 2008, 4:28 am
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I heard somebody say once that if everyone that goes to church could just get used to the idea that it's a life and death cycle, and stop hoping that by worshipping a god that's never been seen that they will somehow meet their dead loved ones again when they die, in an afterlife in some parallel universe called heaven that nobody has ever returned from to confirm it exists.... then maybe people wouldn't need to believe in anything.
Maybe that's a fair theory in response too.
Oct 22nd 2008, 4:31 am
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From what I can gather, that behaviour doesn't sound like it differs too much from the pentecostal, southern baptist, 1st church of christ, or any of the other rather strange (to me) "modern non denominational" churches over here.
How about a "church" that doesn't believe in music or playing instruments because that leads to dancing, which is the instrument of the devil because that's used to get men and women to indulge in the temptation of touching? Sounds unlikely but they still seem to have a big congregation on sundays, and a lot of them are teenagers. Makes the Catholic churches back home seem positively liberal.
How about a "church" that doesn't believe in music or playing instruments because that leads to dancing, which is the instrument of the devil because that's used to get men and women to indulge in the temptation of touching? Sounds unlikely but they still seem to have a big congregation on sundays, and a lot of them are teenagers. Makes the Catholic churches back home seem positively liberal.
