Some positive news about Britain
 

Here's some more happy news about the UK
http://www.gloucestershire.gov.uk/in...rticleid=21558

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The government has a way on sorting the lists out ;)
The media has the power to lift the spirts of the nation and also make people panic and have hizzy fits through the like of the media/weather reports etc etc.

Beleive me there is crime all over the world,but alot goes unannounced:(

But i know what your doing;) your making yaself feel better about moving,so good on ya cricket:rofl:

jase

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And what do you expect her to do? Post news about increasing crime rates? There's enough of that in The Barbie.

This is the MBTTUK forum after all, so of course we want to feel good about the UK.

Doesn't mean we have the rose tints on either though.:)

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The uk is my home,well infact its all i have ever known to be my home "36 years".

Theres good n bad about every where in the world,so rose tints are allowed to be worn,else the bad points would bring us all down:D

Ps i brough a lovely large map of the world so the kids can get a bearing of all the places in the world
And the population for aus for every sq mile is 7 people/ and for uk its 636 people!!:eek:

65 million uk residents in a small area
25 million in aus in a area 30+ times bigger then uk

Like i says stats are sometimes best avoided and keep enjoying life,no matter how bad crime is just round the corner

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.....and no one wants to live in most of it.

Don't kid yourself...the majority of the Australian population live in a few cities and they are just as crowded as most cities in the UK.

"But i know what your doing;) your making yaself feel better about moving"

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lmao its called reverse physcology :p
im happy for cricket that she is happy!!
Im not having a dig at no place on our earth,wherever makes you happy then lifes good,be it uk/aus/iran etc etc.

I understand about probaly 70% of aus is unhabitable:blink:

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....and another huge chunk where nobody wants to live, even though it may be habitable.

why do you think that the vast majority of the people live in the main cities?

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I made joking comment to cricket,go get your kicks else where;)

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It's truly amazing how quickly any positive thread on this site gets trashed

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Maybe we can get it back on track - this is pretty positive:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/ar...n-Cameron.html

(And they never had to worry about co-pays, deductibles, lifetime maximums, etc!)

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Well said - the same goes for Canada

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Yes... they even have whole threads over there designated to pointing out how horrid and miserable we all are in here. :lol: But i am valiantly fighting the fight with them... only because i am bored as batshit, living where i dont want to be, as opposed to those over there who purport to be happy as larry in Aus, yet spend a worrying amount of time on the internet arguing with other supposedly happy in Aus people over just about anything they can think of, and some even come in here as well!!!... go figure :rofl:
:p

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The ONLY reason crime is falling is because they no longer log every call. We have had a lot of problems with anti social behaviour and myself and all my neighbours were calling constantly, up to six or more times a night and yet when we finally got a police office round, they told us that unless you ask for a log number, the calls are not logged and therefore the police are not notified.

We were told to always ask for a log number as they simply listen to your call and then do nothing about it, it isn't recorded and it isn't passed on to be dealt with.

I wish you every success with your move back but I'd really take all these statistics (good and bad) with a pinch of salt.

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Thanks what i was saying,apart from you can write it down and i cant:o

But like i said cricket,i hope you lead a happy life wherever you may settle

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you're wrong about that by almost a factor of 3 - UK population density is 246 people per square mile

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...lation_density

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Excuse me...............If you throw figures back at me,please check yours very carefully :p
Cos on that wiki it was 5 years ago:eek:2004/05

I did state i brought a 1metre long map to stick on my wall with some facts and figures,so who knows when that was produced either

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actually you're right - I was mixing my square kilometers and square miles :lol:

UK still isn't as crowded as some people like to claim it is though - I've lost count of the number of times I've heard "the UK is the second or third most crowded country in the world", when it doesn't even make the top 40

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there are other sources which don't rely directly on police statistics that also say UK crime is falling - for example the British crime survey, which is based on people's experiences and is specifically designed to pick up "unreported" crime:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7511758.stm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Crime_Survey

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I don't think it's negative to point out to people that population per square mile needs to be per-habitable-mile to mean anything. People thinking of moving to Canada and Australia need to know that all that space doesn't mean anything if its empty for a reason, and that they could well end up living with hundreds of thousands of other people in the same density as in the UK.

That may not be a problem, but they need to know.

In fact, in most places in Canada the density in towns and cities is less, lots are bigger etc. But just not to that extreme. Don't know about Australia.

There's also the negative side. Some people, like me, don't want to live in a big house surrounded by private land. I think I've read some comments here from people who discovered they missed the way of life that comes from a denser population.

Bev

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Thankyou for your good wishes. I tend to be happy in myself and it follows me wherever I go. :)

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Sounds good when reading but in reality not so i'm afraid to say speaking from personal experience :(

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I think the perception of crime is what varies.

People tend to live closer together in the UK and places are linked closer together by the network of motorways. This suggests that crime can happen quicker, be reported quicker and make the news headlines quicker giving a sense that it's happening all the time.

In Australia, people still live closer together, there is some degree of safety in this, i would not live out in the sticks here, whereas I was happy to in the UK. However, due to the geographical expanse of land size, places are much farther apart. This means crime, while still high, takes longer to happen, longer to notice that it's happened and by the time it's been reported, it's way down the list of what constitutes news headlines so it doesn't impact on the minds of the public in the same way that it does in the UK. This is why it's so helpful to hear good news about crime falling for a change.

Also police response times are very different. In the UK, the police are fairly quick to respond while here they depending on the crime, they may respond a day later or not at all. It's very different and it leaves people feeling very vulnerable to think that they are not protected.

I notice crime much more here than I ever did in the UK.

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Sorry to disagree with you again but for anti social behaviour we may get a call out within a week, for very bad ASB I often get a call six or seven hours later asking if the kids are still there causing havoc - criminal damage I'm talking about them jumping all over cars, graffitti on walls, drinking, doing drugs in day light and so on - and for the record, I actually live in a very "nice" area!!

Last week I called the police 999 (first time ever) as a gang of 8 or so youths surrounded my husband and an elderly neighbour, I was crying and pleading with the controller to get a car out as they were verbally and physically - aggressive - because my husband and neighbour went out to clear up the rubbish from the bins they had knocked over (the pulled over every single bin on the estate). I was pleading really pleading for police assistance and nobody came out - well I saw a police van drive past about an hour and a half later but that could have been co-incidental.

The ONLY time the police have come out quickly is when they heard my husband arguing with these kids - and they came to warn him not to argue with them, not to protect our property and so on.

We can't even chuck a bucket of water over them if they climb our 8ft wall into our back garden.

I promise there is no exaggeration, this really is supposed to be a nice neighbourhood, expensive detached new build properties, our neighbours are doctors, solicitors and company directors.

Until a few years ago, I would never have believed that this could happen, especially not here where we are.

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I have never lived anywhere like that.

Perhaps you should avoid living in low life areas in future:)

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Did you actually read what I wrote??

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Yes....you obviously live in a pretty poor area.

No one I know lives in a place like that.

maybe do a bit more research next time you buy a house:)

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Ok and you are obviously a pratt, hey ho! I can move out of my "poor area" sadly you will keep yourself with you forever!

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Why have a go at me:confused:

You are the one who is complaining about the area you live in.

You may have trouble selling your house if it is that bad.....you should be more careful next time.:)

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Was this a one off incident? If you're affected by anti social crime, it is a pain but it's not regarded as a priority. It's more that it's a nuisance which it is.
I live in a nice area but we still get gangs (they call them hoons here), lining up in cars before taking off around the streets chasing each other.
In a way, they are not doing much harm. It's late at night so they're using the streets as a race track to let off steam. But they cause a noise disturbance and it is infuriating at 3am in the morning but I take the view that if that's all they're doing, I'm not going to worry about it because there are far more serious things happening that need to take priority.

Here in Oz, people perhaps live in a more protected way than they do in the UK. Houses have security windows and doors, metal fencing and locking gates so it's harder to enter a property. Others live in apartments or gated complexes.
Even so, on some of the more upmarket gated areas, which look and sound impressive, break ins are very common because thieves believe there is something worth stealing so they plan a burgling mission.
Even on the waterfront residences, they get robbed frequently because thieves sneak in the back having got their by boat.

Honestly, I'm far more aware of crime happening here, mostly break ins, than I ever was at home. I lived on the outskirts of Northampton, which is a high crime area, in one of the villages, and I think once in 5 years, there was a drive through robbery where they drive through all the villages at night looking for opportunities but it happened very rarely.

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It does amaze me the amount of time that some of the so called "loving it" brigade spend on here.

You would think they would all be out there enjoying the "wonderful australian lifestyle".

It seems they have to justify their reason to be here but keep harping on about how great it is to strangers. At least it keeps us entertained. I wish I could be as witty as some of the replies you and others give them but my brain has been dulled after living in this place so long. :rofl:

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I'm just wondering... is this newly built nice area very close to a rough one? That's usually a set up for trouble.

Bev

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We normally live and let live, it has got worse recently - been here 8 years and had odd periods of trouble - mainly noisy kids nothing hideous - but Christmas was very bad and this half term was very bad. In between things have quietened down. The problem is that the police can do little more than take the kids names and addresses - we all had a big meeting a couple of weeks ago - the police, the counsellors, MPs - the biggest problem is that the council has decided to turn off the street lights in a bid to save money and this in turn has increased the problems we are all having - because the kids are getting away in the shadows. The police also have very little power to do anything - at one point the PCSO spent the whole night following a gang of 40 or so kids round the estate, about five metres behind them and that was all she could do for hours - she took a few names and addresses but there was nothing else she could do, it was so frustrating for her (and us).

I am very shocked it is happening here, because I have lived within a mile and a half radius all my life and so this is something we aren't used to at all.

I'm sure it is the same the world over. All I say is don't believe the statistics. On another note, I have employed a PR company in the past who came up with statistics to get news stories - OMG some of the one's they came out with are fabulous -I will never believe another story quoting a statistic as long as I live after seeing it from the other side.

We did some fabulous surveys and then they bent all the statistics to make a good story but it was all backed up by the surveys, it just depended on how you read that statistics (and believe me there is always more than one way to read a stat).

Sincerely good luck with your move back, I've read many of your posts and you seem to have your head screwed on the right way.

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Yes, unfortunately that is true. I can think of a few places in WA where new estates have been developed in older lower socio economic areas and the bad influences have seeped into the nicer new areas.

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Yes it is a new build sandwiched between two older estates, yet it is less than a mile from where we used to live where we had no problems at all.

We have lived here 7 or 8 years now and the trouble has only happened fairly recently.

Surprisingly two of the ringleaders are girls from our estate rather than the other two estates, I have watched them in action and they are vicious little so and so's.

I honestly thought the troublemakers were from the other estates but it seems not, although the boys that follow them are from the other two older estates (yes they are council estates though).

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Yes like Perth, Adelaide....N.T.......

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Your right about Aus...out of Perth there is really only one main "high street" Towns and a very large distantce of not much in between (and I am being polite) same goes for Adelaide and N.T...W.A has roughly 2 million (might be more now) with roughly nearly 1.5 million living in Perth....you can do all the stats etc and read up all you like on living with "more space" but unless you have "done it" (and we have)the isolation can really get to you....and of course the lack of other local "Cities" Culture,Villages,Stimulation....can get to you and it does us..but some don't mind this and think a great day out is to visit a different shopping centre (don't get me started on that subject.)....good luck to anyone who wants to try a new way of life...you only live once....

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Once again, a positive thread turned into a Knock Aus/UK competition:thumbup:

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I'm really not aware of any difference and we're not too far from you but then I have no idea where you were before so your previous experience and mine will be different. Hubby reported a crime in the UK and was given the brush off until he explained some of the facts that involved a policeman's helmet :blink:. We had a burglary here and someone was with us inside half an hour and the crime scene guys fairly soon after.

There's probably not a lot in it imo. I've never had to report a serious crime in either country so I've no idea which one would be faster :D

Hope everything goes well for you back in the UK Cricket. Good luck.

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http://www.randstad.com/the-world-of...rm.html?c=3519


Get your act together you lot;)

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Why did you change your name Tiny Tears? Just curious....I thought you had hashed through all this on the other threads on the Canada forum?