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Beedubya Aug 9th 2011 5:20 pm

Riots in the cities
 
Will this affect your plans to move back or holiday in the UK?

I am absolutely disgusted at these latest episodes, it is shameful and makes this country look so bad to the eyes of the rest of the world. They should round up the little sh**s and send them to boot camp to learn some respect, discipline and decency.

They kicked off in Manchester last night and the Chief Constable was just interviewed and like he rightly said there was no excuse, nothing to spark it off in any way it is just mindless vandalism and looting.

chris955 Aug 9th 2011 6:18 pm

Re: Riots in the cities
 
It has made absolutely no difference to our plans to move back, I wasn't influenced by the Cronulla riots and I'm not bothered by these either.

Beedubya Aug 9th 2011 6:53 pm

Re: Riots in the cities
 

Originally Posted by chris955 (Post 9549625)
It has made absolutely no difference to our plans to move back, I wasn't influenced by the Cronulla riots and I'm not bothered by these either.

Interesting Chris, I lived in the shire at the time and it was horrible too. :(

chris955 Aug 9th 2011 7:20 pm

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Exactly, it directly affects those people close by but farther away we watch and say 'oh how awful it all is' but really it could be on Mars. I'm not saying people outside of the area don't care just that it has less impact.

curleytops Aug 9th 2011 9:27 pm

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Originally Posted by Beedubya (Post 9549559)
Will this affect your plans to move back or holiday in the UK?

I am absolutely disgusted at these latest episodes, it is shameful and makes this country look so bad to the eyes of the rest of the world. They should round up the little sh**s and send them to boot camp to learn some respect, discipline and decency.

They kicked off in Manchester last night and the Chief Constable was just interviewed and like he rightly said there was no excuse, nothing to spark it off in any way it is just mindless vandalism and looting.

Exactly! I hear they arrested 2 little sh*ts here last night for trying to get something started where I live via the internet. This political correctness crap is totally out of control and the police are forced to deal with this insanity with one hand and leg tied behind their backs.

chris955 Aug 9th 2011 10:02 pm

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I'm afraid that isn't restricted to the UK regardless of what some would love to believe. I have 5 friends in the Police force and the stories I hear defy belief.

robin1234 Aug 10th 2011 1:09 am

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In my case it will make no difference in my plans to visit the UK and eventually move there or at least spend much more time there in retirement. It certainly makes you think a lot harder about where to live, which part of town to look for houses in etc. Whether there are riots or not, there are some people you really don't want for neighbors!

sallysimmons Aug 10th 2011 1:40 am

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It makes no difference to my plans. Been here, done this before.

I don't think the police reaction is just about political correctness though. I think it's also the smart calculation that violence only ever begets violence. It might feel good to hose these guys with a water cannon or let off tear gas, but would that help or hurt in the longer term?

The police strategy of calmly rounding everyone up the next morning might be far more effective, if less emotionally satisfying to the rest of us. For example, in Manchester apparently many of the people out on the streets were known criminals. How long do you think it'll take the police to haul them in today?

citizenmarie Aug 10th 2011 5:34 am

Re: Riots in the cities
 
Football hooliganism revisited... without the football.

Guinness Aug 10th 2011 6:23 am

Re: Riots in the cities
 

Originally Posted by sallysimmons (Post 9550399)
It makes no difference to my plans. Been here, done this before.

I don't think the police reaction is just about political correctness though. I think it's also the smart calculation that violence only ever begets violence. It might feel good to hose these guys with a water cannon or let off tear gas, but would that help or hurt in the longer term?

The police strategy of calmly rounding everyone up the next morning might be far more effective, if less emotionally satisfying to the rest of us. For example, in Manchester apparently many of the people out on the streets were known criminals. How long do you think it'll take the police to haul them in today?

sallysimmons you are so right with your comments, I must say though like everyone else I am so shocked and upset by this. We are moving back in Oct, yes it does make me stop and think, but the move is still on.
:)

Karrie72 Aug 10th 2011 6:31 am

Re: Riots in the cities
 
It doesn't change my plans to move back. It does make me rethink which areas i might live in. But i could stay here in suburban America forever and be safe but bored to death. I think I'll take my chances in England. Perhaps I'm being naive in that I believe next time the police will be more prepared and forceful. The repercussions of this in terms of our reputation will be enormous and the government will be eager to avoid another situation like this.:fingerscrossed:

brits1 Aug 10th 2011 6:51 am

Re: Riots in the cities
 

Originally Posted by Beedubya (Post 9549559)
Will this affect your plans to move back or holiday in the UK?

I am absolutely disgusted at these latest episodes, it is shameful and makes this country look so bad to the eyes of the rest of the world. They should round up the little sh**s and send them to boot camp to learn some respect, discipline and decency.

They kicked off in Manchester last night and the Chief Constable was just interviewed and like he rightly said there was no excuse, nothing to spark it off in any way it is just mindless vandalism and looting.

Watched the report on North West tonight.....this might be the kick up the backside the "chav's" have needed for years, its good to see the general public backlash against these low life's, what made me feel confident about the future is that all the volunteers both young and old who came out and helped/cleaned/mended etc and voiced their active dislike of these criminals, the public have had enough of these "easy riders" lets hope this is a fresh start.

brits1 Aug 10th 2011 6:58 am

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Originally Posted by Montfan72 (Post 9550977)
It doesn't change my plans to move back. It does make me rethink which areas i might live in. But i could stay here in suburban America forever and be safe but bored to death. I think I'll take my chances in England. Perhaps I'm being naive in that I believe next time the police will be more prepared and forceful. The repercussions of this in terms of our reputation will be enormous and the government will be eager to avoid another situation like this.:fingerscrossed:

I just dont think the decent general public (and there are more of them than the scroungers out there, lets not forget that) will put up with this situation any more, most of these people are bleeding the country dry while the normal public are working hard to improve their lives, I think this one good reason the government will use to stop such soft handed tactics that the police,teachers and even parents etc are tied up in and bring back discipline,respect and the fact that you have to work for things you want in life.

cheeky_monkey Aug 10th 2011 6:58 am

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im more worried about the possible 2nd financial collapse than any riots..i was looking at going home from chrimbo onwards..now im in wait and see mode..may look at moving east to Ontario instead:confused:

Mummy in the foothills Aug 10th 2011 7:01 am

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Originally Posted by brits1 (Post 9551023)
Watched the report on North West tonight.....this might be the kick up the backside the "chav's" have needed for years, its good to see the general public backlash against these low life's, what made me feel confident about the future is that all the volunteers both young and old who came out and helped/cleaned/mended etc and voiced their active dislike of these criminals, the public have had enough of these "easy riders" lets hope this is a fresh start.

I was pleased with this also. A lot of it was organized on facebook. I noticed a lot of friends are now liking pages about clean up and back lash against the rioters. Then there were the funny ones, "Wales too busy spooning sheep to riot" and others about bad areas that look like the rioters already came. Great sense of humor coming through on a lot of them.


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