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Sue Mar 13th 2013 2:34 pm

Reverse Culture Shock
 
This thread prompted me to post a link to this article we have in our article section about Reverse Culture Shock. It's an old article but I feel very relevant. In some ways the move back can be more difficult for us as we feel the "strange in the familiar," in which we think we will fit right back in but things that were once familiar to us are now strange, or have changed.

In some ways if we get confused over things abroad our British accents will somewhat explain away why we don't understand the way things are done, and so locals may give us a little leeway. However we don't get that luxury in the UK, because we sound like locals, therefore we must be.

I always remember getting a funny look from a woman in the newsagent where I grew up when I asked her how the Euro lottery worked. She actually knew me from school and had no idea I was living in the US, so probably thought I was a bit strange.

Another occoasion was when I was presented with a two pound coin in my change and I had no idea what it was. I think the assisant thought I had lost it.

So how about you? What was "strange in the familiar" to you when you first moved back, or indeed when you go back to visit family?

dunroving Mar 13th 2013 2:57 pm

Re: Reverse Culture Shock
 

Originally Posted by Sue (Post 10601241)
This thread prompted me to post a link to this article we have in our article section about Reverse Culture Shock. It's an old article but I feel very relevant. In some ways the move back can be more difficult for as we feel the "strange in the familiar," in which we think we will fit right back in but things that were once familiar to us are now strange, or have changed.

In some ways if we get confused over things abroad our British accents will somewhat explain away why we don't understand the way things are done, and so locals may give us a little leeway. However we don't get that luxury in the UK, because we sound like locals, therefore we must be.

I always remember getting a funny look from a woman in the newsagent where I grew up when I asked her how the Euro lottery worked. She actually knew me from school and had no idea I was living in the US, so probably thought I was a bit strange.

Another occoasion was when I was presented with a two pound coin in my change and I had no idea what it was. I think the assisant thought I had lost it.

So how about you? What was "strange in the familiar" to you when you first moved back, or indeed when you go back to visit family?

For those of us who emigrated before the age of t'interWeb, I'm sure we have what I think of as cultural gaps - many is the occasion when a person will be on telly and I have to ask, "Who is that?"

Whether it is sport, culture, or politics, I am completely out of touch with most of what happened in the 1980s and 1990s ...

windsong Mar 13th 2013 3:03 pm

Re: Reverse Culture Shock
 

Originally Posted by dunroving (Post 10601294)
For those of us who emigrated before the age of t'interWeb, I'm sure we have what I think of as cultural gaps - many is the occasion when a person will be on telly and I have to ask, "Who is that?"

Whether it is sport, culture, or politics, I am completely out of touch with most of what happened in the 1980s and 1990s ...

Me, too.

Like you, I have noticed this when watching TV and, while a name may seem familiar, the face does not. As a result, I have gone to Google images and looked them up as they were 20 years ago and then it hits home who they are.

I also found recently that my memories of the village in which I grew up as a young girl (around 5 years old) were grossly disturbed by present reality. I looked on VPike.com at the village as it is now and the beautiful country lanes down which we used to walk alongside the ducks has now been replaced by a motorway. I truly panicked and cried tears for a few minutes. Even though in my mind, I know you cannot reclaim time, it was still an emotional shock.

SadInStates Mar 13th 2013 5:42 pm

Re: Reverse Culture Shock
 
For me it's been a bit like waking from a 17 year coma! Not hugely different but many things in popular culture have passed my by!
I thought Gary Barlow was a relation of Ken Barlow and something to do with Coronation Street (which I never watched anyway, and is now called Corrie, apparently!) and was getting confused with West Life and Westfield, the shopping centre! :eek:

The other big thing has been dealing with officialdom such as schools who are the worst for expecting me to know how things are done, dentists (who don't automatically do a clean and polish when you schedule a checkup) and I expect doctors will be different from what I'm used to too! :unsure:

But being back has been worth EVERY minute of it! :thumbsup:

pennylessinindia Mar 13th 2013 5:54 pm

Re: Reverse Culture Shock
 
Reverse culture shock is something many do not recognise or talk about.
So much is written about culture shock when moving away but not much about it for coming back!
I am 11 months back in the UK and still finding things a little odd. I am glad to be back but still find it hard to settle down.
It is hard to talk about to people who have not been away. I love meeting others who have lived overseas and in some strange way they just understand it so easily.

ldollard Mar 13th 2013 6:12 pm

Re: Reverse Culture Shock
 
I cant believe that i'm so looking forward to global warming, it cant come quick enough to the UK.

Sally Redux Mar 13th 2013 6:28 pm

Re: Reverse Culture Shock
 

Originally Posted by ldollard (Post 10601775)
I cant believe that i'm so looking forward to global warming, it cant come quick enough to the UK.

Global warming will have the effect of making the UK colder, something to do with the Gulf Stream.

dunroving Mar 13th 2013 7:18 pm

Re: Reverse Culture Shock
 

Originally Posted by SadInStates (Post 10601709)
For me it's been a bit like waking from a 17 year coma! Not hugely different but many things in popular culture have passed my by!
I thought Gary Barlow was a relation of Ken Barlow and something to do with Coronation Street (which I never watched anyway, and is now called Corrie, apparently!) and was getting confused with West Life and Westfield, the shopping centre! :eek:

The other big thing has been dealing with officialdom such as schools who are the worst for expecting me to know how things are done, dentists (who don't automatically do a clean and polish when you schedule a checkup) and I expect doctors will be different from what I'm used to too! :unsure:

But being back has been worth EVERY minute of it! :thumbsup:

Yes, I saw on the news last night that Curly Watts is returning to Coronation Street and all I could think was "I never knew he left". :rofl:

Sally Redux Mar 13th 2013 7:23 pm

Re: Reverse Culture Shock
 

Originally Posted by dunroving (Post 10601889)
Yes, I saw on the news last night that Curly Watts is returning to Coronation Street and all I could think was "I never knew he left". :rofl:

Me neither :lol:

ldollard Mar 13th 2013 7:36 pm

Re: Reverse Culture Shock
 

Originally Posted by Sally Redux (Post 10601811)
Global warming will have the effect of making the UK colder, something to do with the Gulf Stream.

damnit. :)

Mummy in the foothills Mar 13th 2013 10:24 pm

Re: Reverse Culture Shock
 
Mine was when Dh and I went to Tesco and tried to pay with a £20 note, turned out the money had changed (we had no idea) and there had been a length of time when you could use them and the new looking ones, the check out woman said, "sorry love you can't pay with that" cue us looking bewildered, then my high school friend (supervisor) came told us why, we were the talk of the whole queue and the till next door, half the town then found out we'd been living abroad and saving all the birthday money the kids got sent over the years. :lol: We had to go in the bank and change it. Even the bank teller gave us funny looks "where did you find this in your mattress?" kind of comments
Oh and for the life of me I couldn't figure out how to put petrol in the car, my elderly Mum had to show me LOL

ldollard Mar 13th 2013 10:41 pm

Re: Reverse Culture Shock
 

Originally Posted by Mummy in the foothills (Post 10602274)
Mine was when Dh and I went to Tesco and tried to pay with a £20 note, turned out the money had changed (we had no idea) and there had been a length of time when you could use them and the new looking ones, the check out woman said, "sorry love you can't pay with that" cue us looking bewildered, then my high school friend (supervisor) came told us why, we were the talk of the whole queue and the till next door, half the town then found out we'd been living abroad and saving all the birthday money the kids got sent over the years. :lol: We had to go in the bank and change it. Even the bank teller gave us funny looks "where did you find this in your mattress?" kind of comments
Oh and for the life of me I couldn't figure out how to put petrol in the car, my elderly Mum had to show me LOL

Thats awesome, love the story.

kampaicharger Mar 13th 2013 11:08 pm

Re: Reverse Culture Shock
 
Hehehehehe..

I got it worked out::fingerscrossed:

When buying a car/caravan or haggling in a market I will put on a cloth cap and pretend I've never left Yorkshire: "ere my lad, that's a reet fine lookin' (car/caravan/whatever) but yull be gettin' nought fer it at t'price"

When chatting up a girl in the pub or dealing with the french (who dislike the english according to my french great grandmother) I shall put on my akubra and pretend I'm crocodile dundee: "g,day.. howyagoin, fair dinkum you'se pommy sheila's are a bit of orright"

I'll supply the "culture" you can provide the "shock" :rofl:

Bud the Wiser Mar 13th 2013 11:15 pm

Re: Reverse Culture Shock
 
Chip and Pin
Press the red button
Oyster cards
Trying to sort out change.
"Oh look at all the different types of Kit Kat/ Galaxy/ etc." - together with an odd look from the shopkeeper, because you still have a Brit accent.
Using 'American English' - 'Trash cans' for example.

SadInStates Mar 13th 2013 11:27 pm

Re: Reverse Culture Shock
 

Originally Posted by Bud the Wiser (Post 10602337)
Using 'American English' - 'Trash cans' for example.

LOL Having been resolutely British in America just today I asked to open a checking acount in the bank only to be asked if I meant a current account! :rofl:
And for the life of me I just cannot get the hang of putting the day before the month. Even when I make a consientious effort to get it right it still ends up coming out (either on paper or more often verbally) month first! :eek:

And I have absolutely no idea what the red button does. I'm too scared to try it in case the TV blows up, or worse, rearranges where I know to find the channels/recording I watch!! :blink:

WhoFan63 Mar 13th 2013 11:28 pm

Re: Reverse Culture Shock
 

Originally Posted by dunroving (Post 10601889)
Yes, I saw on the news last night that Curly Watts is returning to Coronation Street and all I could think was "I never knew he left". :rofl:

Curly is coming back?? Cool ! LOL Sorry, big Corrie fan here :D Need my Corrie fix, especially as I have to watch it on YouTube because we don't get it on the telly.....:rofl:

WhoFan63 Mar 13th 2013 11:31 pm

Re: Reverse Culture Shock
 
I think the biggest hurdle will be remembering how to spell...harbour instead of harbor, neighbour instead of neighbor....LOL I'll have to forget everything I've learned since being in the US....all the different ways of saying things...trash, garbage, chemist, pharmacy, dollar, pound. Oh heck...we need a UK phrase book for Dummies...lol

Snap Shot Mar 14th 2013 12:04 am

Re: Reverse Culture Shock
 
The actor who play Kevin Webster (Michael LeVell) has disgraced himself with child sex charges. His scenes have been deleted from the last six weeks of filming the current storyline. Curly is getting those lines instead. I don't know how that will work. We're a year and a half behind in NZ with Coronation Street. Stella has just arrived behind the bar of the Rovers and Steve and Becky's marriage is breaking up. That's how behind we are !

WhoFan63 Mar 14th 2013 12:08 am

Re: Reverse Culture Shock
 

Originally Posted by Snap Shot (Post 10602425)
The actor who play Kevin Webster (Michael LeVell) has disgraced himself with child sex charges. His scenes have been deleted from the last six weeks of filming the current storyline. Curly is getting those lines instead. I don't know how that will work. We're a year and a half behind in NZ with Coronation Street. Stella has just arrived behind the bar of the Rovers and Steve and Becky's marriage is breaking up. That's how behind we are !

Yes, I saw all the news reports about Michael LeVell.....simply disgusting !

Wow, you have some catching up to do with your episodes...that's why I love YouTube. I'd hate to get back and not know what the heck is going on..lol

lgabriel73 Mar 14th 2013 12:11 am

Re: Reverse Culture Shock
 
For those of you missing coronation street get Hulu and you can watch it on your computer or on your TV if you have the Wii or apple tv. I cam across it the other day and it plays the episodes about two weeks after they have aired. There are also lots of other UK shows on there too

WhoFan63 Mar 14th 2013 12:18 am

Re: Reverse Culture Shock
 

Originally Posted by lgabriel73 (Post 10602444)
For those of you missing coronation street get Hulu and you can watch it on your computer or on your TV if you have the Wii or apple tv. I cam across it the other day and it plays the episodes about two weeks after they have aired. There are also lots of other UK shows on there too

I did think about that too...and doesn't Hulu have a monthly fee similar to Netflix???

ldollard Mar 14th 2013 1:00 am

Re: Reverse Culture Shock
 
is eastenders on there, i'd pay for that.


I know the shame... :)

ElizabethK Mar 14th 2013 1:18 am

Re: Reverse Culture Shock
 
I can never understand why the pay at the pump petrol has not seemed to have caught on in UK. It takes forever to put it in, then go inside and queue up to pay for it. That's going to be annoying to begin with.

Shops, if not in an out of town shopping centre, still close at 5:30pm.

Supermarkets - despite a lot of them being open 24hours, don't tend to stock their shelves throughout the day, so it's quite common for them to run out of bread or other essentials if you go after work.
Chip and PIN confuses the hell out of me, I always put the card in the wrong way and pull it out too quickly.
Checkout assistants sitting down also seems odd now, I don't think they're allowed to sit in USA certainly where I live they all have to stand up.

ElizabethK Mar 14th 2013 1:20 am

Re: Reverse Culture Shock
 

Originally Posted by lgabriel73 (Post 10602444)
For those of you missing coronation street get Hulu and you can watch it on your computer or on your TV if you have the Wii or apple tv. I cam across it the other day and it plays the episodes about two weeks after they have aired. There are also lots of other UK shows on there too


I signed up to Hulu a while back and other than Doc Martin I couldn't find anything British on there. I was desperately trying to find QI on there and couldn't ?

WhoFan63 Mar 14th 2013 1:34 am

Re: Reverse Culture Shock
 

Originally Posted by ldollard (Post 10602497)
is eastenders on there, i'd pay for that.


I know the shame... :)

Nothing to be ashamed about.. LOL

WhoFan63 Mar 14th 2013 1:42 am

Re: Reverse Culture Shock
 

Originally Posted by ElizabethK (Post 10602534)
I signed up to Hulu a while back and other than Doc Martin I couldn't find anything British on there. I was desperately trying to find QI on there and couldn't ?

What is QI??? Sorry for the ignorance..lol

vikingsail Mar 14th 2013 2:07 am

Re: Reverse Culture Shock
 

Originally Posted by ldollard (Post 10602497)
is eastenders on there, i'd pay for that.


I know the shame... :)

TunnelBear - best $4.99 a month I have ever spent I watch Corrie, EastEnders and wait for it......Casualty, usually the same day as they are on in the UK only my time. Now that is a very sad ;)

Karrie72 Mar 14th 2013 2:20 am

Re: Reverse Culture Shock
 

Originally Posted by vikingsail (Post 10602594)
TunnelBear - best $4.99 a month I have ever spent I watch Corrie, EastEnders and wait for it......Casualty, usually the same day as they are on in the UK only my time. Now that is a very sad ;)

Huge tunnelbear fan here too. Reliable and inexpensive way to watch the Telly. I'm still always amazed thats Corrie, Eastenders and Casualty are still on! I haven't seen an episode of Casualty for 20 odd years, does it have any of the same actors? Is it still any good?

windsong Mar 14th 2013 2:47 am

Re: Reverse Culture Shock
 

Originally Posted by Snap Shot (Post 10602425)
The actor who play Kevin Webster (Michael LeVell) has disgraced himself with child sex charges. His scenes have been deleted from the last six weeks of filming the current storyline. Curly is getting those lines instead. I don't know how that will work. We're a year and a half behind in NZ with Coronation Street. Stella has just arrived behind the bar of the Rovers and Steve and Becky's marriage is breaking up. That's how behind we are !

Gosh, I didn't know any of this, although I haven't seen him on the show for a few weeks (watching on the iPlayer). It will be fun to see Curly back, though. The simple look on his face is very entertaining :)

ElizabethK Mar 14th 2013 3:37 am

Re: Reverse Culture Shock
 

Originally Posted by WhoFan63 (Post 10602569)
What is QI??? Sorry for the ignorance..lol

It's a sort of quiz show hosted by Stephen Fry (one of my favourite people ever) QI stands for quite interesting I believe.

It's not your typical quiz show, but is really funny and contrary to the title, is very interesting :)

rebs Mar 14th 2013 7:08 am

Re: Reverse Culture Shock
 

Originally Posted by ElizabethK (Post 10602528)
I can never understand why the pay at the pump petrol has not seemed to have caught on in UK. It takes forever to put it in, then go inside and queue up to pay for it. That's going to be annoying to begin with.

One or two places do pay at pump - our local Tesco has a couple (along with traditional pay pumps). I'm with you - I think it's super efficient and fab, but it doesn't seem to be too popular, most of the people I know don't bother with it :)

englishguygoinghome Mar 14th 2013 9:19 am

Re: Reverse Culture Shock
 

Originally Posted by rebs (Post 10602813)
One or two places do pay at pump - our local Tesco has a couple (along with traditional pay pumps). I'm with you - I think it's super efficient and fab, but it doesn't seem to be too popular, most of the people I know don't bother with it :)

Ah yes, but you can't use the 5p a litre vouchers and don't get the stickers for the nice pyrex stuff if you pay at pump. Although I think you do get clubcard points. What's the point in that!

jemima55 Mar 14th 2013 1:35 pm

Re: Reverse Culture Shock
 
Morrisons has "pay at the pump".

Sally Redux Mar 14th 2013 9:35 pm

Re: Reverse Culture Shock
 

Originally Posted by rebs (Post 10602813)
One or two places do pay at pump - our local Tesco has a couple (along with traditional pay pumps). I'm with you - I think it's super efficient and fab, but it doesn't seem to be too popular, most of the people I know don't bother with it :)

Tesco had it before we left - it was handy with little kids.

My jaw dropped last time I was back, my Mum's local petrol station has an M&S food hall.

ozzieeagle Mar 14th 2013 11:01 pm

Re: Reverse Culture Shock
 
Very interesting thread, Notice there are hardly any Aussies returnees on it. After all we get QI on TV, have the Red Button and have Cheque accounts ;) Also have Pay at the pump and in the store.

I'd be stumped with the money as well I will admit. One thing I wouldnt be able to fathom .... Phoning up a help line and getting charged by the minute.

Mummy in the foothills Mar 14th 2013 11:02 pm

Re: Reverse Culture Shock
 

Originally Posted by SadInStates (Post 10602355)
LOL Having been resolutely British in America just today I asked to open a checking acount in the bank only to be asked if I meant a current account! :rofl:
And for the life of me I just cannot get the hang of putting the day before the month. Even when I make a consientious effort to get it right it still ends up coming out (either on paper or more often verbally) month first! :eek:

And I have absolutely no idea what the red button does. I'm too scared to try it in case the TV blows up, or worse, rearranges where I know to find the channels/recording I watch!! :blink:

:lol: I hit the red button one time, nothing happened, maybe I didn't press hard enough or long enough.

larrabee Mar 14th 2013 11:22 pm

Re: Reverse Culture Shock
 

Originally Posted by ElizabethK (Post 10602528)
I can never understand why the pay at the pump petrol has not seemed to have caught on in UK. It takes forever to put it in, then go inside and queue up to pay for it. That's going to be annoying to begin with.

My local Asda has a drive through where you pay!
Love it!!!:D

jemima55 Mar 14th 2013 11:25 pm

Re: Reverse Culture Shock
 
The red button?

ozzieeagle Mar 14th 2013 11:25 pm

Re: Reverse Culture Shock
 

Originally Posted by jemima55 (Post 10604537)
The red button?

Surely you've got one ?

gazz21 Mar 14th 2013 11:34 pm

Re: Reverse Culture Shock
 
When I came back for a hol in the summer these were the things that struck me:

-ve
How fat the UK is becoming (maybe not so noticeable if you're coming from the US:rofl:)

The attitude of a (significant minority) of Brits, who have the - 'they owe us something mentality'

How some women 'act' like men.

Shops closing early.

Lack of customer service in lots of shops, and the shocking attitude of some of the staff - standing around/leaning on stuff/chewing gum/ heard one guy talking about how stoned he got the night before.....

+ve

SAUSAGES - real nice one's!

Brit's humour (could also stick that in the -ve too maybe!:p)

Nice selection of beer!

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