Pregnant Smokers
Jan 25th 2008, 6:36 am
#91
Queen of my house
Joined: Aug 2007
Location: Ohio
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Re: Pregnant Smokers
You need new glasses, Papaw. Reread, "........maybe you're just a grumpy person who only feels better when he complains. Maybe you're quite nice in person, and just use this forum as therapy or your 'other' self. I don't know, but I've quite tired of you on this subject. Maybe we'll spar again. Bye."
I forgot to add, "maybe you just like to provoke women to abuse you, sounds like you could be into that."
I forgot to add, "maybe you just like to provoke women to abuse you, sounds like you could be into that."
Jan 25th 2008, 6:41 am
#92
Concierge
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 46,477
Re: Pregnant Smokers
I sent you a PM. If anyone else is curious I did find this for California
The Major Risk Medical Insurance Program (MRMIP) provides health insurance for Californians unable to obtain coverage in the individual health insurance market because of their pre-existing conditions. Californians qualifying for the program, participate in the cost of their coverage by paying premiums. The State of California supplements those premiums to cover the cost of care in MRMIP. Tobacco tax funds currently subsidize the MRMIP. Due to limited funding, MRMIP may have a waiting list. Qualifications:
The Major Risk Medical Insurance Program (MRMIP) provides health insurance for Californians unable to obtain coverage in the individual health insurance market because of their pre-existing conditions. Californians qualifying for the program, participate in the cost of their coverage by paying premiums. The State of California supplements those premiums to cover the cost of care in MRMIP. Tobacco tax funds currently subsidize the MRMIP. Due to limited funding, MRMIP may have a waiting list. Qualifications:
- California resident.
- Cannot be eligible for both Part A and Part B of Medicare, unless eligible solely because of end-stage renal disease.
- Cannot be eligible to purchase any health insurance for continuation of benefits under Cobra or CalCobra.
- Unable to secure adequate coverage.
Rete - if you know something I don't, PLEASE share as this is a very real issue for a very good friend of mine.
The specific issue is Private Insurance - not group insurance. I know that ins.co's cannot deny insurance at the group level due to pre-existing conditions, and that's great. But for private insurance - eg, if you are out of work - I've found it to be the absolute norm, not a 'nuance' of some obscure plan.
If you think that's not correct, please tell me more as my very good friend has had breast cancer and is about to lose her job. Once COBRA runs out, she is going to have to go with private insurance and as of now, cannot find anyone willing to touch her. She's about 53 years old.
The specific issue is Private Insurance - not group insurance. I know that ins.co's cannot deny insurance at the group level due to pre-existing conditions, and that's great. But for private insurance - eg, if you are out of work - I've found it to be the absolute norm, not a 'nuance' of some obscure plan.
If you think that's not correct, please tell me more as my very good friend has had breast cancer and is about to lose her job. Once COBRA runs out, she is going to have to go with private insurance and as of now, cannot find anyone willing to touch her. She's about 53 years old.
Jan 25th 2008, 6:47 am
#93
Septicity
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 23,762
Re: Pregnant Smokers
You need new glasses, Papaw. Reread, "........maybe you're just a grumpy person who only feels better when he complains. Maybe you're quite nice in person, and just use this forum as therapy or your 'other' self. I don't know, but I've quite tired of you on this subject. Maybe we'll spar again. Bye."
I forgot to add, "maybe you just like to provoke women to abuse you, sounds like you could be into that."
I forgot to add, "maybe you just like to provoke women to abuse you, sounds like you could be into that."
Jan 25th 2008, 6:57 am
#94
Not living a 9 to 5 life
Joined: Jun 2002
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 11,061
Re: Pregnant Smokers
Callous? You know so little about me and especially about my childhood health issues, most of which were probably preventable had my Mum not smoked. If you were in my shoes, you might feel the same way as I do.
Jan 25th 2008, 10:13 am
#95
Concierge
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 46,477
Re: Pregnant Smokers
No, I don't know you very well, or at all, but you are at or at least over the age of 30 and if that is so than health warnings about cigarettes were not known then or too new to be believable by most of the world's population. As such, how can you hold her accountable for your health problems because she smoked while pregnant or while you were growing up?
Note you use the term "probably preventable" so you aren't even sure that it was a result of cigarettes.
It is not like she refused to let you get the polio vaccination and you developed polio. The fact that she smoked is a forgiven offense. At least it is in my eyes.
It's your life, your emotions and your mother. I forgave my mother for a lot worse but then that is me. I should not judge you by my example.
Jan 25th 2008, 2:27 pm
#96
Lost in BE Cyberspace
Joined: Jul 2007
Location: Cincinnati, Ohio
Posts: 8,497
Re: Pregnant Smokers
Shiny happy people holding hands. 
Jan 25th 2008, 2:45 pm
#97
Lost in BE Cyberspace
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Location: NW Chicago suburbs
Posts: 11,253
Re: Pregnant Smokers
Private insurance is different from group insurance. My daughter was covered under Cobra a few years ago and was able to extend the coverage period for an additional year before she converted it to private healthcare. Have her check with the carrier.
I'm assuming your friend is still battling the breast cancer, i.e. chemo and/or radiation. Have her look into getting social security diability so that she would automatically qualify for medicaid. (Think that is what it is called.) Also most states have state funded healthcare programs for those that cannot get healthcare. She might qualify for that.
I'm assuming your friend is still battling the breast cancer, i.e. chemo and/or radiation. Have her look into getting social security diability so that she would automatically qualify for medicaid. (Think that is what it is called.) Also most states have state funded healthcare programs for those that cannot get healthcare. She might qualify for that.
Jan 26th 2008, 5:58 am
#98
Militant Ginger
Joined: Feb 2007
Location: Wrong Side of the Hudson River
Posts: 2,311
Re: Pregnant Smokers
The answer is simple -- get rid of the insurance companies. There's absolutely no reason for them to be there. If they provided efficiency and quality to the system, I'd gladly live with them. They clearly don't.
[As background on this and the other thread running health care at the moment since you're new, you'll find several common denominators in those who refuse to accept there's any problem and vehemently resist change: they're all native or near-native born American females who have never experienced anything else.]
[As background on this and the other thread running health care at the moment since you're new, you'll find several common denominators in those who refuse to accept there's any problem and vehemently resist change: they're all native or near-native born American females who have never experienced anything else.]
Don't you have a 'mute' button or something?
Jan 26th 2008, 6:14 am
#99
Militant Ginger
Joined: Feb 2007
Location: Wrong Side of the Hudson River
Posts: 2,311
Re: Pregnant Smokers
God clearly hates cigarettes, as proven by this recycled joke I posted earlier.
Jan 26th 2008, 12:29 pm
#102
Militant Ginger
Joined: Feb 2007
Location: Wrong Side of the Hudson River
Posts: 2,311
Simma down now! Don't make me cuff you two
Back to the drawing board....
Jan 26th 2008, 10:32 pm
#104
BE Forum Addict
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 1,966
Re: Pregnant Smokers
1. I assume you meant "narcissistic", but perhaps you have the wrong word. NOTHING I said could even almost be defined as narcissistic.
2. My opinion is certainly judgemental. That's because, knowing the potential impact on their unborn child of smoking cigarettes, I think it's a despicable act. Regardless of how easy (or hard) it is to quit, I absolutely do not accept that it's so terribly difficult that it's not worth stopping for the sake of your child's health.
3. I did not say it should be easy for everyone to quit smoking. Nope, just didn't say that at all.
4. I did not say it was easy for me to smoke.
5. I did not ever say that "smokers are worthy of" my "disdain".
Perhaps you should read more carefully and avoid ascribing statements to me that I didn't make. And since you mentioned judgmental, perhaps you should check the mirror, madam.
