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agm1287 Feb 16th 2016 8:35 am

Re: Not using part of the return air ticket when we return to UK
 

Originally Posted by feelbritish (Post 11869496)
I agree so the last segment not taken should not matter if we do not take it?

I think the only thing you need to worry about is luggage... if you have none then this will not be an issue... infact you should receive or see a credit for you to use against a future flight for the unused portion.

Pulaski Feb 16th 2016 8:50 am

Re: Not using part of the return air ticket when we return to UK
 

Originally Posted by agm1287 (Post 11869622)
.... in fact you should receive or see a credit for you to use against a future flight for the unused portion.

I doubt that will be the case as it is a fraction of a single journey, from South Africa to Canada. If the journey was two flights, with a stop of one or more days in London, it might be a different matter.

Remember, as someone else pointed out above, under the "single journey" ticket, the OP might find themselves in Paris, Frankfurt, or Timbuktoo for a flight change and they would have absolutely no recourse because the contract with the airline is only to be taken to the specified airport in Canada.

Bermudashorts Feb 16th 2016 8:13 pm

Re: Not using part of the return air ticket when we return to UK
 

Originally Posted by agm1287 (Post 11869622)
I think the only thing you need to worry about is luggage... if you have none then this will not be an issue... infact you should receive or see a credit for you to use against a future flight for the unused portion.

A credit? From an airline for an unused flight? Not likely unless they have bought fully flexible tickets (which very few people do) and certainly not for a no show.

themajor Feb 16th 2016 9:48 pm

Re: Not using part of the return air ticket when we return to UK
 
I refer to all my previous comments.

As I only use Club/Business class tickets. Any unused sections were always refunded/credited. I am always allowed to chop and change at leisure always have.

cyrian Feb 16th 2016 10:54 pm

Re: Not using part of the return air ticket when we return to UK
 

Originally Posted by themajor (Post 11870074)
I refer to all my previous comments.

As I only use Club/Business class tickets. Any unused sections were always refunded/credited. I am always allowed to chop and change at leisure always have.

Considering that only around 8% of travellers fly on premier class tickets then your comments were perhaps not relevant for over 90% of the population including BE members. This would have been clear if you had included the above post in your first response.
The fact that these tickets can be up to 10x the price of economy then you would expect to have flexible tickets.

Pollyana Feb 16th 2016 11:07 pm

Re: Not using part of the return air ticket when we return to UK
 

Originally Posted by themajor (Post 11870074)
I refer to all my previous comments.

As I only use Club/Business class tickets. Any unused sections were always refunded/credited. I am always allowed to chop and change at leisure always have.

If you book Club/Business it is quite likely that your terms and conditions allow refunds.

Very few people actually book Club/Business, and very few tickets have such lax clauses.

Pollyana Feb 16th 2016 11:13 pm

Re: Not using part of the return air ticket when we return to UK
 
I'm sure I am not the only person on here who has been trained in BA ticketing prcedures, but the others clearly haven't dropped in on this thread.

So, according to my BA training......here are the facts.

When you check in, if your booking is for the whole trip and you are flying with BA and partners the whole way you will be given boarding passes for each flight.

If you do not board one leg of the flight your luggage will be off loaded, calls will be put out in the airport for you, and ALL FURTHER LEGS WILL BE CANCELLED.
if you have booked in a class which says you can have a refund on cancellation, after the start of the trip, you can ask for a refund but this is very unusual, most refunds must be made before the first leg is flown.

If you check in with hold luggage, and you are flying with BA and partners the whole way, your luggage will be checked through to your destination. If you fail to board one leg your luggage will be offloaded and held at that airport foryou to collect.

themajor Feb 16th 2016 11:13 pm

Re: Not using part of the return air ticket when we return to UK
 

Originally Posted by cyrian (Post 11870117)
Considering that only around 8% of travellers fly on premier class tickets then your comments were perhaps not relevant for over 90% of the population including BE members. This would have been clear if you had included the above post in your first response.
The fact that these tickets can be up to 10x the price of economy then you would expect to have flexible tickets.

To give you an example; Bought a club class ticket return Paphos to LGW. Three months in advance. The day of the flight the economy ticket was MORE expensive that my Club class and I accumulate points for free flights.

Pollyana Feb 16th 2016 11:23 pm

Re: Not using part of the return air ticket when we return to UK
 

Originally Posted by themajor (Post 11870137)
To give you an example; Bought a club class ticket return Paphos to LGW. Three months in advance. The day of the flight the economy ticket was MORE expensive that my Club class and I accumulate points for free flights.

That may be so but it is irrelevant to the OP.

cyrian Feb 16th 2016 11:24 pm

Re: Not using part of the return air ticket when we return to UK
 

Originally Posted by themajor (Post 11870137)
To give you an example; Bought a club class ticket return Paphos to LGW. Three months in advance. The day of the flight the economy ticket was MORE expensive that my Club class and I accumulate points for free flights.

This really isn't of any interest to the majority of the population including BE members.

themajor Feb 16th 2016 11:44 pm

Re: Not using part of the return air ticket when we return to UK
 

Originally Posted by cyrian (Post 11870142)
This really isn't of any interest to the majority of the population including BE members.

That is your opinion. How can you speak for "The Majority"? Have by any chance done a poll?

This is a FREE forum. All of us can speak freely and with cyber abuse or cyber bullying.

Pollyana Feb 17th 2016 12:04 am

Re: Not using part of the return air ticket when we return to UK
 

Originally Posted by themajor (Post 11870166)
That is your opinion. How can you speak for "The Majority"? Have by any chance done a poll?

This is a FREE forum. All of us can speak freely and with cyber abuse or cyber bullying.

If you wish to carry on a discussion with the minority of BE members who migrate using the more expensive class of flights, please start another thread, preferably in either the Rover's Return or the Lounge. .

This one is about the OPs particular issue - what will happen if they do not board a flight whilst en route back to the UK. A normal, reasonably priced flight with standard T&Cs.
You are discussing a bigger picture with far wider parameters and it is confusing the issue here.

Pollyana Feb 17th 2016 12:06 am

Re: Not using part of the return air ticket when we return to UK
 

Originally Posted by feelbritish (Post 11867069)
We planned to spend 3 months in Cape Town in March 2015 and bought return tickets to Vancouver where we were living. As we planned to move back to UK but were waitingto sell house we thought we would be still in Canada in March 2016. Then miraculously house sold, visa approved and we decided to go backto UK in October 2015 and changed tickets with paying a large sum to have a stop over on that ticket in UK and left again in Dec 2015 for Cape Town on this same ticket. It was cheaper to keep the return part of ticket from London to Vancouver. Now we are leaving next week on same ticket for London with hand luggage only so we dont have suitcases travelling to Vancouver without us. My question is after this ramble is do we tell them at Cape Town check in at British Airways we wont be travelling onto Vancouver and risk more money paid out on cancellation or do we just go to London, then go to British Airways info and tell them we have an emergency and are not travelling to Vancouver and to cancel the last leg of flight with apologies but giving them time to fill the seats or just ignore that part of ticket but
risk being black listed by BA as we are Avion members?

You won't be blacklisted.

You may have an issue if you have checked-in luggage. If as it seems, you have hand luggage alone you can merely not board the last leg.

You will annoy your fellow travellers who will have to wait while they put out calls for you but eventually the flight will leave with you being 'off-loaded'.

Pulaski Feb 17th 2016 12:24 am

Re: Not using part of the return air ticket when we return to UK
 

Originally Posted by themajor (Post 11870137)
...... The day of the flight the economy ticket was MORE expensive than my Club class .....

And that would be because on the day of the flight prices for economy tickets spike dramatically. In the last few days before a flight the prices rise very sharply.

I don't recall the exact figures, but a couple of years ago YorkieAbroad posted his experience of buying an economy ticket at short notice: what had started out as a roughly $1,000 economy ticket from Texas to the UK became a $2,000 ticket, then a couple of days ahead, a $3,000 ticket, and at less than a day ahead it was IIRC an $8,000 ticket! :blink:

Originally Posted by themajor (Post 11870166)
That is your opinion. How can you speak for "The Majority"? Have by any chance done a poll?

This is a FREE forum. All of us can speak freely and with cyber abuse or cyber bullying.

Why don't you go start a poll? "Are you interested in the repetitive ramblings of someone who travels business class? Yes/No. :rolleyes:

Pulaski Feb 17th 2016 12:29 am

Re: Not using part of the return air ticket when we return to UK
 

Originally Posted by Pollyana (Post 11870189)
..... You will annoy your fellow travellers who will have to wait while they put out calls for you but eventually the flight will leave with you being 'off-loaded'.

There is usually enough slack time at the gate for there to be no additional waiting to be necessary and any standby passengers will be waiting at the gate with fingers crossed! :nod:

Originally Posted by Pollyana (Post 11870136)
I'm sure I am not the only person on here who has been trained in BA ticketing prcedures, but the others clearly haven't dropped in on this thread.

So, according to my BA training......here are the facts.

When you check in, if your booking is for the whole trip and you are flying with BA and partners the whole way you will be given boarding passes for each flight.

If you do not board one leg of the flight your luggage will be off loaded, calls will be put out in the airport for you, and ALL FURTHER LEGS WILL BE CANCELLED. .....

And I am reasonably certain that while you can change and cancel certain types of business class tickets, if you just "don't show up" the same rules apply for business class flights as for economy.

Unfortunately in the 21st century skipping a leg is not just a matter of tickets, fees, and fares, but also about security and "odd" passenger behaviour. If someone skips a leg and then tries to later pick up later in the itinerary, what were they doing? Where have they been? What might they be hiding? And how did they get to the next airport if they skipped a leg? :unsure:


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