Originally Posted by arkon

Talking of boredom, It's the 22nd December, the friday before xmas and I don't know if it's just me, but it's exactly the same as every one of the 365 days before it. Shouldn't it feel a bit special and christmassy? Today I've mowed lawns, cleaned the pool, refilled the fly traps, cleaned the mozzie killer, filled a hole and basically done the same boring shite I do every day. Went into town for a bit too, and well what a damp squid.

Originally Posted by northernbird

you are a nasty bitter and twisted individual. I do not dish out personal insults nor do I criticise England, it is the country of my birth and I will always be proud to be English. However it offers me and my family nothing anymore and I make no apologies for that. You can criticise Australia/Perth all you like, that is not what I have the issue with. What I have the issue with is you slagging people off personally. I have been called a loser and disgusting today by you and I find that highly offensive and as such will be complaining to the mods about you. I am quite a tough old bird usually but you have absolutely floored me today :( .

Originally Posted by arkon

Talking of boredom, It's the 22nd December, the friday before xmas and I don't know if it's just me, but it's exactly the same as every one of the 365 days before it. Shouldn't it feel a bit special and christmassy? Today I've mowed lawns, cleaned the pool, refilled the fly traps, cleaned the mozzie killer, filled a hole and basically done the same boring shite I do every day. Went into town for a bit too, and well what a damp squid.

Something those thinking of coming here really need to think about if they like their UK christmas's, Oh and easters too. IT JUST AIN'T THE SAME!

(And before a muppet replies, 'ooooooow but your in another country what did you expect, you have to adapt to their way' blah blah blah.... Well so what, I didn't recce over xmas and even if I did I would have been in holiday mode, then after 3 years to get a visa there was no way shite xmas's would have put me off)

Santa got stuck up the chimny because he couldn't pull a bird, his p*b*s got stuck around his plums and all the kiddies heard...'pull me out or you'll get nowt you nasty load of pr***S'....F*** your toys the kids replied and pelted the C*** with bricks.........

Originally Posted by arkon

Santa got stuck up the chimny because he couldn't pull a bird, his p*b*s got stuck around his plums and all the kiddies heard...

'pull me out or you'll get nowt you nasty load of pr***S'....F*** your toys the kids replied and pelted the C*** with bricks.........

Originally Posted by kiwi_child

It hasn't felt like xmas for me for along time. I think a lot of that is to do with what we associate xmas to be with: family and friends, climate, familiar surroundings etc But aside from all of that, I see some traditional signs of xmas here but don't feel the 'xmas spirit' if you know what I mean.

I think this is just synonymous with one of the greatest social problems australia faces: a general lack of community spirit/belonging that stems from a lack of inclusivity of others. On the surface oz claims to welcome and include all new comers to their country, but in reality this does not pan out that way at all.

I spoke to a UK guy of Indian descent recently who has lived in oz for a decade and works in a govt department. He put his finger on it when he said to me " Back in London (where he was from) if we came across each other we'd prob say hi to each other and end up having a chat over a cuppa or a pint but here we'd at most likely just give a polite smile or hello as we passed on by "

People badmouth the UK, but by and large those who live there have learned how to get on with others and understand the value in friendship building on a real level. It's part of the British spirit/psyche, a part I hope never gets lost.

Originally Posted by kiwi_child

It hasn't felt like xmas for me for along time. I think a lot of that is to do with what we associate xmas to be with: family and friends, climate, familiar surroundings etc But aside from all of that, I see some traditional signs of xmas here but don't feel the 'xmas spirit' if you know what I mean.

I think this is just synonymous with one of the greatest social problems australia faces: a general lack of community spirit/belonging that stems from a lack of inclusivity of others. On the surface oz claims to welcome and include all new comers to their country, but in reality this does not pan out that way at all.

I spoke to a UK guy of Indian descent recently who has lived in oz for a decade and works in a govt department. He put his finger on it when he said to me " Back in London (where he was from) if we came across each other we'd prob say hi to each other and end up having a chat over a cuppa or a pint but here we'd at most likely just give a polite smile or hello as we passed on by "

People badmouth the UK, but by and large those who live there have learned how to get on with others and understand the value in friendship building on a real level. It's part of the British spirit/psyche, a part I hope never gets lost.

Originally Posted by phoenixinoz

So Merry Happy and Happy Merry to all....and I hope 2007 is a better year and that you live the life you want, wherever that may be:beer:

Originally Posted by Pollyana

What more could anyone want? :) :beer:

Originally Posted by phoenixinoz

Agreed Polly.

And a Happy Christmas and New Year to you and TheBloke too:beer:

I hope 2007 is a good year job wise for you:)

Originally Posted by Pollyana

Thanks. :) Though I must admit I have almost given up hope.

Originally Posted by Pollyana

Thanks. :) Though I must admit I have almost given up hope.

Originally Posted by Lord Pom Percy

Anyone want to say something nice about OZ for a change, poor OZ seems to be getting a big bashing down here in this forum. :(

Originally Posted by paulrachel

Great Milkshakes in OZ and Smoothies...thats it ..thanks. ;)

Originally Posted by rossifumi

Yeah but they're not proper milkshakes are they mate. :D

Originally Posted by kiwi_child

synonymous with one of the greatest social problems australia faces: a general lack of community spirit/belonging that stems from a lack of inclusivity of others. On the surface oz claims to welcome and include all new comers to their country, but in reality this does not pan out that way at all.

Originally Posted by phoenixinoz

Don't do that Polly. Don't be beaten. You've gone through too much and deserve better:)

It's not unusual to go through hell to find a job you deserve here in Aus. Like you said before, previous UK skills and experience stands for nothing. Your time has got to come ......so maybe 2007 will be it;)

Originally Posted by sassenach

Living in perth is like living on an island within an island ,and unless one is totally moronic there is no doubt one will go crazy ,just like monkies in a cage .

Originally Posted by BadgeIsBack

Have to agree. I've heard its like that.

Originally Posted by BadgeIsBack

I'll think of you and the lack of community spirit you're experiencing when we (the village) all meet on Sunday night to sing in Christmas and hope 2007 will get you what you're looking for. :) .....

Have a good one.

Originally Posted by Pollyana

Fingers crossed, but I'm not putting any bets on. However I'm still here, Christmas number 4....... :eek:

Originally Posted by kiwi_child

And even though I'm a Kiwi (and proud of it), I can demonstrate how grown up we can be, and declare that not only do I have a sense of humour, but also think Arkon is a pretty ok guy :D

Now would an Aussie/Aussie lover be as well balanced and mature as I am if that was posted about Australia ? ;)

Originally Posted by phoenixinoz

Well, it took me 29 months but I finally got a Directors position with a global company .....so it can be done Polly.

Have you thought about leaving government work and working for the private sector? Government jobs are well known for being *jobs for the boys* and low pay. You would probably do much better in the private sector:)

Originally Posted by Pollyana

Community spirit isn't dead on Brisbane......Rossi has just said he'll try and meet up with me for a pint over Christmas :) :beer:

Originally Posted by rossifumi

I like to do my bit for the aged community.

Originally Posted by BadgeIsBack

I think this happens a lot now just about everywhere. I moved from the UK to Australia because I couldn't afford to live in one of those nice communities people long for on this site and found it here.

I'll think of you and the lack of community spirit you're experiencing when we (the village) all meet on Sunday night to sing in Christmas and hope 2007 will get you what you're looking for. :) .....

Have a good one.

Originally Posted by BadgeIsBack

I think I can disprove this one instantly. Although I rarely personally 'attack' Arkon -and anyway - remember people - this is all light-hearted humour - I have to agree. I am an Australia lover, and I happen to agree that the areas you people live in are as crap as you say they are. ;)

Originally Posted by Pollyana

Maybe, all I want though is a basic admin position in the area I love - emergency management. You've done really well, and I'm pleased for you. I have no aspirations to high positions, I just want a permanent job that I love. Have decided that the new year is make or break though, so I will have to sacrifice job satisfaction for job security and am therefore going to turn to private enterprise and just accept it. After all I'm sure there are many people out there doing jobs they don't like.

Originally Posted by kiwi_child

It hasn't felt like xmas for me for along time. I think a lot of that is to do with what we associate xmas to be with: family and friends, climate, familiar surroundings etc But aside from all of that, I see some traditional signs of xmas here but don't feel the 'xmas spirit' if you know what I mean.

I think this is just synonymous with one of the greatest social problems australia faces: a general lack of community spirit/belonging that stems from a lack of inclusivity of others. On the surface oz claims to welcome and include all new comers to their country, but in reality this does not pan out that way at all.

I spoke to a UK guy of Indian descent recently who has lived in oz for a decade and works in a govt department. He put his finger on it when he said to me " Back in London (where he was from) if we came across each other we'd prob say hi to each other and end up having a chat over a cuppa or a pint but here we'd at most likely just give a polite smile or hello as we passed on by "

People badmouth the UK, but by and large those who live there have learned how to get on with others and understand the value in friendship building on a real level. It's part of the British spirit/psyche, a part I hope never gets lost.

Originally Posted by Pollyana

Cheeky mare, bet I out-drink you :p

Originally Posted by Pollyana

Maybe, all I want though is a basic admin position in the area I love - emergency management.

Originally Posted by phoenixinoz

So Merry Happy and Happy Merry to all....and I hope 2007 is a better year and that you live the life you want, wherever that may be:beer:

Originally Posted by kiwi_child

It hasn't felt like xmas for me for along time. I think a lot of that is to do with what we associate xmas to be with: family and friends, climate, familiar surroundings etc But aside from all of that, I see some traditional signs of xmas here but don't feel the 'xmas spirit' if you know what I mean.

I think this is just synonymous with one of the greatest social problems australia faces: a general lack of community spirit/belonging that stems from a lack of inclusivity of others. On the surface oz claims to welcome and include all new comers to their country, but in reality this does not pan out that way at all.

I spoke to a UK guy of Indian descent recently who has lived in oz for a decade and works in a govt department. He put his finger on it when he said to me " Back in London (where he was from) if we came across each other we'd prob say hi to each other and end up having a chat over a cuppa or a pint but here we'd at most likely just give a polite smile or hello as we passed on by "

People badmouth the UK, but by and large those who live there have learned how to get on with others and understand the value in friendship building on a real level. It's part of the British spirit/psyche, a part I hope never gets lost.

Originally Posted by northernbird

Same to you, have a good one :)

Originally Posted by Hels Bells

I am really curious....I am sure you have probably said, but I cant really be bothered hunting back through your posts, when did you live in the UK? Where and for how long exactly??

Originally Posted by kiwi_child

I lived in London (Bayswater, Lancaster Gate area mainly) for around a year and then spent a couple months in a place called Neath in Sth Wales. This was back in 88-89.

Originally Posted by Hels Bells

Thought so.....

Originally Posted by Hels Bells

Thought so.....

Originally Posted by chance to be

Originally Posted by kiwi_child
I lived in London (Bayswater, Lancaster Gate area mainly) for around a year and then spent a couple months in a place called Neath in Sth Wales. This was back in 88-89.



i dont think we can judge the validity of peoples comments on the basis of how long they have lived somewhere/how long ago or what area.
What you see is what you interpret. You might think because it was some time ago, that makes the description less valid as the UK has changed since then. Other people may disagree. Some may say its actually improoved since '89. Its horses for courses - but your opinion carries equal weight to everyone elses as its yours, and rightly so.

Originally Posted by Hels Bells

Thought so.....