NHS Care for Expats
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You're right about the landlords who have to check to see they aren't housing an illegal if they want to avoid a fine. Just been rolled out in some areas in England's midlands and to be extended to all of the UK soon.
The immigration act was a big law with massive changes. Some aspects of that law came in virtually immediatley in 2014, while other aspects will come in this year.
EDIT we crossed posts.
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Interesting document which I have only briefly looked at but I wonder if the changes are to be implemented as soon as April, why the amount of surcharge has not been disclosed as yet and how it will be applied to those persons already here on spousal or dependant visas. Possibly at the point of renewing or extending the visa until such time as ILR is attained?
https://www.gov.uk/government/speech...igration-rules
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I can't find anything saying that either. And the poster does have a few previous posts where others have asked for links suspecting scaremongering....and the links have not appeared.
Formula, quit being obtuse and give us the short sharp link to where emergency treatment in A&E will now be billed, please.
Formula, quit being obtuse and give us the short sharp link to where emergency treatment in A&E will now be billed, please.
I'm happy to post links and repost links if somebody has forgotten something or doesn't know how to use the search engine on this site, just so long as they don't demand something or throw a hissy fit.
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I assume I'm not eligible, since I'm not a UK resident. I was in the UK for ten weeks early 2014, and felt disgustingly healthy the whole time because being in England makes me feel happy and contented. I did get a bad right foot injury from walking too much. Even if NHS eligible not sure if I'd have gone to the doctor.
I'm not sure how a UK citzen proves they are resident. Like you, we rarely got to a doctor and when we moved areas within the UK, it was years before we signed up to a GP (got the vet sorted for the dogs asap of course).
About 2 or 3 years ago I did need to see a GP and used a drop in centre. All I took was some photo ID and explained that I didn't have a GP anymore as I had moved areas. She looked on her system and said that didn't matter as I am allowed free NHS (I couldn't see what records she looked at).
The Brit behind me was told she needed to pay. She insisted she was a UK resident but was told that was not what the system showed. The Brit said she would return with proof, but never did (it was a 2 hour wait in that drop in centre).
Then an EU citizen arrived and the recepionist said the system wasn't set up yet to see if he was working so he wouldn't be billed.
The real time HMRC (where employers now have to report to HMRC each time they pay someone) wasn't set up until the tax year 2013/14, so it can't have been that they saw for me. If it had have been set up then, the receptionist could have seen if the EU citizen needed to pay. The council election/tax lists are too easy to fake. I don't claim any benefits.
Then I noticed that people on some sites were reporting they have been caught for benefit fraud and some landlords said their mortgage companies had caught them for either mortgage fraud or for breaking the terms of their mortgage agreement by letting the property without their lenders permission. It turns out the government have access to credit reports and a credit footprints, so I guess they used that to check me and the Brit who was refused. Banks grouped together to catch the frausters with such things as National Hunter, which checks credit footprints, so it seems the government thought that was a good idea to combat fraud.
My wife's situation is different in that she's a (UK) pensioner already. Her age group got their OAP at age 60. Also, she has NYS retiree healthcare for life. Here, that will become "secondary" when she is of Medicare age, but I assume it will continue to give her health insurance when abroad.
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I still have worldwide coverage from my old employer, but this lapses when I get to be 65 later this year. At that point I transition to Medicare, which has no coverage abroad, so I'll either have to get travel insurance when in the UK .... or actually become a resident.
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