Pulaski

Unless you know their status overseas, such as whether they were on temporary visas or were permanent residents, or had taken dual citizenship, that last statement is fairly meaningless.

petitefrancaise

After looking at various links and on the information given here, I'm back to my original post which is that you should PLAN on having to pay international fees and if you are LUCKY then you might get domestic tuition rates.

brits1

I do/did know their status overseas that is why I wrote about it, hence its not "fairly meaningless". One young girl lived in New Zealand for 10 years and returned to the UK on her own having both New Zealand and British citizenship. The other person the same but Canada and a young lad.

petitefrancaise

All that can be deduced from this thread is that the law is pretty clear. Anecdotally, some people have managed to get domestic tuition rates and we're not sure why.

So, again. PLAN on paying international tuition rates if you don't fulfill the ordinary residence criteria and see if you can argue/request domestic rates. I suspect that things are getting tougher for the universities and that anecdotes of people getting away with domestic rates are going to diminish.

Pulaski

.... I suspect that the domestic v international fees issue is tracking a similar path to billing for access to the NHS: the rules have been clear for years, but there has been little or no enforcement and many loopholes.

I don't expect the situation to continue in either area (Healthcare or higher education).

brits1

I agree, whenever we are planning a move etc we usually overestimate our costing's, until we have actual confirmation of exact pricing/quotes etc if we find if it's over our higher estimate we re-consider/look at our choices/options.

Peasant

Hi, everyone, thanks for all the replies and advice. I am obviously planning to have to pay international fees becuase that is most likely what I will have to do. I am just looking into whether it is possible, that's all.

holly_1948

The rules are clear enough - sufficient residence is required.

What is not at all clear is what constitutes residence. And especially so for people who have a history of coming and going. Going back as far as Cooper v Cadwalader [1904] 5 TC 101, case law has been contradictory and inconsistent. The theme throughout however is that physical presence and residence usually go together but neither implies nor requires the other in unusual situations.

So in the end much is left to the judgment of the admissions officers and forum shopping may be needed.

As an aside, apiring youngsters "coming home" should be aware that there are still a limited number of scholarships for higher education that pay all expenses. But they do tend to be limited to vocational specialised fields. Research is required if the prospective field of study seems to be one that might have scholarships. And there are other possibilities, such as so-called Sandwich Courses and working while doing an Open University degree. OU is Britain's largest University after all!

brits1

It is possible and if you decide you want to go ahead then start with contacting NARIC and UCAS, when are you thinking of starting your course? if this September then you can still find places but you will have to hurry and contact UCAS asap, if next September (2018) then you have plenty of time to have a look at Universities and Area's of the UK you are interested in studying. Good luck with everything I hope all works out as you want.

petitefrancaise

How can she get a place now for September 2017? UCAS closing date is long gone and it will only be for clearing in August for those who have already applied.

holly_1948

Like so:
ukguardianship.com/missed-ucas-deadline/
What can I do if I missed the January UCAS deadline?

Lion in Winter

The Little Lion, who, having never been a UK resident (and I've been gone a long, long time) will clearly not qualify for home fees even though we hope to repatriate, will be doing a sandwich year after two years of study. It will be a huge advantage in his field (engineering), he'll get paid while learning stuff, and we'll get a rest year in the middle of his studies to pay off his loans while not accumulating more. Good deal all round.

petitefrancaise

Just to recap on this article
you can apply late to UCAS but the universities do not have to consider your application and may just reject it.

"UCAS Extra" applies to those who submitted their application before the deadline

Clearing. Limited to courses that still have vacant places.

Not an ideal situation at all. Probably better to wait for the next academic year.

Peasant

I am thinking of starting in September 2018 anyway because school doesn't finish in Australia until November 2017 so it would be too late by then even if I wanted to. I don't mind because I was planning on having a gap year anyway and it means that I have a few months to get settled back in the UK before going to university.

Mezbits

Hi there,

I am waiting for my Year 11 son to finish school here in Australia in November 2018 and we want to return to the UK. My son was born in the UK and moved here with me when he was 4. He came into the country on his own Australian passport which I was able to get for him because I was born in Australia. He also had a UK passport. Can my son be considered a 'home student' for university when we return? How did you get granted "home status" after 12 years in Aus. I'd be most grateful for any information that you have. Thank you.