Moving back to the UK after living abroad over 5 years
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Moving back to the UK after living abroad over 5 years
Hello all,
I recently watched Heathrow: Britain's busiest airport and there was an 80 year old lady on there called Elizabeth (Season 6 episode 3 - available on ITV hub). She was a UK citizen coming back and it sounded like she was going to have all sorts of problems as she lived outside of the UK for over 5 years, meaning she lost her residency. I assumed being a UK citizen, she would be able to come back without any issues. Although she was seeking government help for housing, NHS etc.
My question is, if you live outside of the UK longer than 5 years and decide to return permanently, what challenges will one face (regardless of age)? Would I be able to come and get a job in the UK after being away for over 5 years for example? I found limited advice on the Gov.uk website, mostly around tax implications.
I recently watched Heathrow: Britain's busiest airport and there was an 80 year old lady on there called Elizabeth (Season 6 episode 3 - available on ITV hub). She was a UK citizen coming back and it sounded like she was going to have all sorts of problems as she lived outside of the UK for over 5 years, meaning she lost her residency. I assumed being a UK citizen, she would be able to come back without any issues. Although she was seeking government help for housing, NHS etc.
My question is, if you live outside of the UK longer than 5 years and decide to return permanently, what challenges will one face (regardless of age)? Would I be able to come and get a job in the UK after being away for over 5 years for example? I found limited advice on the Gov.uk website, mostly around tax implications.
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Re: Moving back to the UK after living abroad over 5 years
Hello all,
I recently watched Heathrow: Britain's busiest airport and there was an 80 year old lady on there called Elizabeth (Season 6 episode 3 - available on ITV hub). She was a UK citizen coming back and it sounded like she was going to have all sorts of problems as she lived outside of the UK for over 5 years, meaning she lost her residency. I assumed being a UK citizen, she would be able to come back without any issues. Although she was seeking government help for housing, NHS etc.
My question is, if you live outside of the UK longer than 5 years and decide to return permanently, what challenges will one face (regardless of age)? Would I be able to come and get a job in the UK after being away for over 5 years for example? I found limited advice on the Gov.uk website, mostly around tax implications.
I recently watched Heathrow: Britain's busiest airport and there was an 80 year old lady on there called Elizabeth (Season 6 episode 3 - available on ITV hub). She was a UK citizen coming back and it sounded like she was going to have all sorts of problems as she lived outside of the UK for over 5 years, meaning she lost her residency. I assumed being a UK citizen, she would be able to come back without any issues. Although she was seeking government help for housing, NHS etc.
My question is, if you live outside of the UK longer than 5 years and decide to return permanently, what challenges will one face (regardless of age)? Would I be able to come and get a job in the UK after being away for over 5 years for example? I found limited advice on the Gov.uk website, mostly around tax implications.
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Re: Moving back to the UK after living abroad over 5 years
My wife and I returned after 29 years away, just showed passport on entry, no questions asked. We had other things to do such as register with the NHS since the system including NHS numbers had all changed.
A year after us our son returned after 30 years away, same thing, walked in through passport control no questions asked. (I was with him when he returned as I spent a couple of weeks in Texas helping him pack).
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..... and it sounded like she was going to have all sorts of problems as she lived outside of the UK for over 5 years, meaning she lost her residency. I assumed being a UK citizen, she would be able to come back without any issues. Although she was seeking government help for housing, NHS etc. ....
.... My question is, if you live outside of the UK longer than 5 years and decide to return permanently, what challenges will one face (regardless of age)? Would I be able to come and get a job in the UK after being away for over 5 years for example? I found limited advice on the Gov.uk website, mostly around tax implications.
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Re: Moving back to the UK after living abroad over 5 years
There are restrictions on access to funding for students, until they have been resident again for 3 years. there may be restrictions on access to benefits (Habitual Residency Rule) Getting a job in the "Security Organs" might be problematic. establishing a Credit History. Cannot think of any more problems.
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Re: Moving back to the UK after living abroad over 5 years
Hello all,
I recently watched Heathrow: Britain's busiest airport and there was an 80 year old lady on there called Elizabeth (Season 6 episode 3 - available on ITV hub). She was a UK citizen coming back and it sounded like she was going to have all sorts of problems as she lived outside of the UK for over 5 years, meaning she lost her residency. I assumed being a UK citizen, she would be able to come back without any issues. Although she was seeking government help for housing, NHS etc.
My question is, if you live outside of the UK longer than 5 years and decide to return permanently, what challenges will one face (regardless of age)? Would I be able to come and get a job in the UK after being away for over 5 years for example? I found limited advice on the Gov.uk website, mostly around tax implications.
I recently watched Heathrow: Britain's busiest airport and there was an 80 year old lady on there called Elizabeth (Season 6 episode 3 - available on ITV hub). She was a UK citizen coming back and it sounded like she was going to have all sorts of problems as she lived outside of the UK for over 5 years, meaning she lost her residency. I assumed being a UK citizen, she would be able to come back without any issues. Although she was seeking government help for housing, NHS etc.
My question is, if you live outside of the UK longer than 5 years and decide to return permanently, what challenges will one face (regardless of age)? Would I be able to come and get a job in the UK after being away for over 5 years for example? I found limited advice on the Gov.uk website, mostly around tax implications.
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Re: Moving back to the UK after living abroad over 5 years
I had no problems getting accommodation from a Housing Association although I had lived abroad for 30 years. i was fortunate in that I found an area that has an abundance of empty flats in the public sector, and a minimal waiting list. 10 years later I am still here.
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Re: Moving back to the UK after living abroad over 5 years
Do you really need a valid UK passport, or just have proof of UK citizenship such as a birth certificate?
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Re: Moving back to the UK after living abroad over 5 years
I went and watched that section of the program and the problem Elizabeth was having is that she was returning with nowhere to go to, no family to stay with, and asking to be housed and looked after. She had a U.K. passport and had gone through passport control and was sitting in arrivals asking for help. What family she had, a son, lived in Florida and she had come to London with a list of numbers such as “Shelter” to call as she had been assured that she would be taken care of on return. The son had wanted her to stay with them in Florida.
Heathrow staff, not border control were the ones offering to get her in contact with an organization that can help and they arranged for social services to take care of her. She had not been resident since the 1960s and since she had been a non-resident for more than 5 years she was not eligible for benefits and since she was homeless it was the local council’s responsibility to sort something out. It sounded very much like she had no right to residence but that was not the case, she was admitted into the country.
Heathrow staff, not border control were the ones offering to get her in contact with an organization that can help and they arranged for social services to take care of her. She had not been resident since the 1960s and since she had been a non-resident for more than 5 years she was not eligible for benefits and since she was homeless it was the local council’s responsibility to sort something out. It sounded very much like she had no right to residence but that was not the case, she was admitted into the country.
Last edited by durham_lad; Sep 10th 2020 at 8:43 pm.
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Re: Moving back to the UK after living abroad over 5 years
I went and watched that section of the program and the problem Elizabeth was having is that she was returning with nowhere to go to, no family to stay with, and asking to be housed and looked after. She had a U.K. passport and had gone through passport control and was sitting in arrivals asking for help. What family she had, a son, lived in Florida and she had come to London with a list of numbers such as “Shelter” to call as she had been assured that she would be taken care of on return. The son had wanted her to stay with them in Florida.
Heathrow staff, not border control were the ones offering to get her in contact with an organization that can help and they arranged for social services to take care of her. She had not been resident since the 1960s and since she had been a non-resident for more than 5 years she was not eligible for benefits and since she was homeless it was the local council’s responsibility to sort something out. It sounded very much like she had no right to residence but that was not the case, she was admitted into the country.
Heathrow staff, not border control were the ones offering to get her in contact with an organization that can help and they arranged for social services to take care of her. She had not been resident since the 1960s and since she had been a non-resident for more than 5 years she was not eligible for benefits and since she was homeless it was the local council’s responsibility to sort something out. It sounded very much like she had no right to residence but that was not the case, she was admitted into the country.
Her being eligible for benefits and housing would have been questionable.
Pity the local authorities who have this type of situation thrown at them.
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Re: Moving back to the UK after living abroad over 5 years
A UK birth certificate does not prove British citizenship. You could have been born in the UK (after 1982) to non Brits who were not settled and you only lived in the UK for 5 years..... you would not be a Brit citizen
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Not really, it's not exactly a surprise to them, cases like this are hardly going to be uncommon and in any case it's quid pro quo for having a large driver of economic activity in their city/ borough/ county, so [1] creating many jobs, which generate local income and therefore expenditure and further economic activity, and [2] a large number of business premises on which business rates are assessable. The downside is the odd ball cases as we're discussing here, that land in their lap.
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Re: Moving back to the UK after living abroad over 5 years
I'd just add it's really not that hard to renew or get a first passport even when living outside the UK. It would make identification for health care and any other benefits that much easier for everyone. In my mind, that would be a top priority before planning a move back.