Moving back to UK
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Well..in theory. But I would advise anyone to take at least a month of medication with them.
I agree with you that access to the NHS is immediate for anyone who has the right to live in the UK (as the OP does) with the intention of living there permanently. Doesn't matter about how much tax one has paid on the past. A quick Google and you'll find this on the NHS website.
But people may well find that the individual doctors will try to put barriers in the way because they say that they only cover specific postcode areas, and ok they'll ask for proof of address etc. They can't really do this (after all homeless people or people on holiday are entitled to see a GP if necessary), but it's easier not to argue and just be prepared for this in advance, and getting this evidence can take a while.
Then there's the bureaucracy of the GP practice.
In my experience, registering in Derbyshire at a temporary address earlier this year and then in Yorkshire at permanent address last month, it took a month on both occasions. And involved several trips to the doctors and basically camping out in their waiting room on the day my medication ran out.
It shouldn't have to be that way, and it depends on how lucky you are with your choice of GP. But as I say I think it's best not to rely on getting medicine within a week.
I agree with you that access to the NHS is immediate for anyone who has the right to live in the UK (as the OP does) with the intention of living there permanently. Doesn't matter about how much tax one has paid on the past. A quick Google and you'll find this on the NHS website.
But people may well find that the individual doctors will try to put barriers in the way because they say that they only cover specific postcode areas, and ok they'll ask for proof of address etc. They can't really do this (after all homeless people or people on holiday are entitled to see a GP if necessary), but it's easier not to argue and just be prepared for this in advance, and getting this evidence can take a while.
Then there's the bureaucracy of the GP practice.
In my experience, registering in Derbyshire at a temporary address earlier this year and then in Yorkshire at permanent address last month, it took a month on both occasions. And involved several trips to the doctors and basically camping out in their waiting room on the day my medication ran out.
It shouldn't have to be that way, and it depends on how lucky you are with your choice of GP. But as I say I think it's best not to rely on getting medicine within a week.
I did bring a month’s supply of medicine with me, plus this was back in 2016 when we still had a functioning NHS. When our daughter moved back in November 2022 (same town as us) she also registered the first week she arrived. Registration is handled by reception where we live so no GP appointment needed to get on their list with an NHS number and assigned GP.
Last edited by durham_lad; Dec 8th 2024 at 9:11 am.
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Most GPs have a catchment area and that info should be available on their website. To find which GPs are in the area you plan to move to, there's a search feature on the NHS website where you can search for GPs near a postcode. You can also register (basic details) for many GPs on the NHS website before you start the often frustrating task of contacting the surgery to try to get a first appointment..... Having said that, my GP office was happy to give me a one month prescription of my US medicine to tide me over before my appointmen but I made that request well before getting close to the end of the month's supply I'd brought with me.
NHS has no delay period, you will be covered on day 1 of returning to live. Done that, no issues, brought my prescription from the USA and had it immediately prescribed by my new GP the first week here.
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Well..in theory. But I would advise anyone to take at least a month of medication with them.
I agree with you that access to the NHS is immediate for anyone who has the right to live in the UK (as the OP does) with the intention of living there permanently. Doesn't matter about how much tax one has paid on the past. A quick Google and you'll find this on the NHS website.
But people may well find that the individual doctors will try to put barriers in the way because they say that they only cover specific postcode areas, and ok they'll ask for proof of address etc. They can't really do this (after all homeless people or people on holiday are entitled to see a GP if necessary), but it's easier not to argue and just be prepared for this in advance, and getting this evidence can take a while.
Then there's the bureaucracy of the GP practice.
In my experience, registering in Derbyshire at a temporary address earlier this year and then in Yorkshire at permanent address last month, it took a month on both occasions. And involved several trips to the doctors and basically camping out in their waiting room on the day my medication ran out.
It shouldn't have to be that way, and it depends on how lucky you are with your choice of GP. But as I say I think it's best not to rely on getting medicine within a week.
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Well..in theory. But I would advise anyone to take at least a month of medication with them.
I agree with you that access to the NHS is immediate for anyone who has the right to live in the UK (as the OP does) with the intention of living there permanently. Doesn't matter about how much tax one has paid on the past. A quick Google and you'll find this on the NHS website.
But people may well find that the individual doctors will try to put barriers in the way because they say that they only cover specific postcode areas, and ok they'll ask for proof of address etc. They can't really do this (after all homeless people or people on holiday are entitled to see a GP if necessary), but it's easier not to argue and just be prepared for this in advance, and getting this evidence can take a while.
Then there's the bureaucracy of the GP practice.
In my experience, registering in Derbyshire at a temporary address earlier this year and then in Yorkshire at permanent address last month, it took a month on both occasions. And involved several trips to the doctors and basically camping out in their waiting room on the day my medication ran out.
It shouldn't have to be that way, and it depends on how lucky you are with your choice of GP. But as I say I think it's best not to rely on getting medicine within a week.
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Wherever I end up that information about GP's and postal codes will be usefull. I have a Medicare Advantage Insurance which keeps me supplied with at least 3 months of my meds, so that will help. Prescriptions and medical records will be an essential but if you have the container with all the information on the label, would not that substutute for a prescription?
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Wherever I end up that information about GP's and postal codes will be usefull. I have a Medicare Advantage Insurance which keeps me supplied with at least 3 months of my meds, so that will help. Prescriptions and medical records will be an essential but if you have the container with all the information on the label, would not that substutute for a prescription?
Another thing to check is whether the same meds are available in the UK. When I returned, one med was not available in XR (extended release) form in the UK.
Also, check if there are any NHS recommendations for the meds you are on. After a brain injury, I was put on several meds until the GP found one that worked to reduce the extreme headaches I was having (still have). After being on it for a year, the GP had to take me off because NHS gave out a warning that people addicted to opioids were using it as a synergistic drug to enhance the opioid high. I wasn't even on opioids, so it seemed a bit daft, but as per my comment "josbworth", etc. The replacement meds were not as effective.
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My primary care physician is very co-operative and would gladly give me a letter containing the prescriptions they write. Having looked through the NHS website, all the meds I take are avalable but a couple are listed as controled substances, as they are in the USA, I can see that I would have to have some discussions with the GP of my choice. However, being in the UK and over 60, prescriptions are at no cost. Thanks for the suggestions, at this stage anything is helpful!
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Wherever I end up that information about GP's and postal codes will be usefull. I have a Medicare Advantage Insurance which keeps me supplied with at least 3 months of my meds, so that will help. Prescriptions and medical records will be an essential but if you have the container with all the information on the label, would not that substutute for a prescription?
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jopavi73


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Taxation in the UK for a ukusac.
Do I file a UK tax return as a UK citizen, and is there a website that explains the process?
Do I then file my US tax return, notating that I permanently reside in the UK?
I understand that the US Tax year is from Jan to Dec, and the UK tax year is from April to March, and has to be pro-rated for US tax puposes.
This sounds draconian in the extreme! I should probably hire a tax accountant!
Any feedback on how difficult and time consumung this is?
Do I file a UK tax return as a UK citizen, and is there a website that explains the process?
Do I then file my US tax return, notating that I permanently reside in the UK?
I understand that the US Tax year is from Jan to Dec, and the UK tax year is from April to March, and has to be pro-rated for US tax puposes.
This sounds draconian in the extreme! I should probably hire a tax accountant!
Any feedback on how difficult and time consumung this is?
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Taxation in the UK for a ukusac.
Do I file a UK tax return as a UK citizen, and is there a website that explains the process?
Do I then file my US tax return, notating that I permanently reside in the UK?
I understand that the US Tax year is from Jan to Dec, and the UK tax year is from April to March, and has to be pro-rated for US tax puposes.
This sounds draconian in the extreme! I should probably hire a tax accountant!
Any feedback on how difficult and time consumung this is?
Do I file a UK tax return as a UK citizen, and is there a website that explains the process?
Do I then file my US tax return, notating that I permanently reside in the UK?
I understand that the US Tax year is from Jan to Dec, and the UK tax year is from April to March, and has to be pro-rated for US tax puposes.
This sounds draconian in the extreme! I should probably hire a tax accountant!
Any feedback on how difficult and time consumung this is?
I do hire a tax accountant to do our UK and US tax returns because I do find it complicated and draconian. The UK-US tax treaty determines which country has primary tax authority over which income stream and you use foreign tax credits to ensure you are not doubly taxed.
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Compared to US tax returns a UK return is much simpler and I’ve helped my wife’s sister do a couple of HMRC self assessments after her husband died and she was advised that she needed to do a self assessment. After the second year HMRC told her that she no longer needed to file and could go back to PAYE.
Last edited by durham_lad; Dec 10th 2024 at 3:48 am.
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Wherever I end up that information about GP's and postal codes will be usefull. I have a Medicare Advantage Insurance which keeps me supplied with at least 3 months of my meds, so that will help. Prescriptions and medical records will be an essential but if you have the container with all the information on the label, would not that substutute for a prescription?
Regarding part B, it has taken us months to get that removed. It might not be an issue for you, but as my husband was recently retired, his income incurred an additional charge which was for the both of us, and amounted to a couple of thousand every 3 months. You cannot keep up part B once you are resident in the UK, but you need to complete a form to stop it. Part of our problem was we sent the forms back to the SS in the USA, but the US has a dedicated department for US SS claimants at the embassy in London which is where the form should have been send.
In the new year, we have the joy of completing our first tax return. I am surprised you are not a US citizen after spending so long in the US, if you aren't intending on returning to the US, I am not sure it's worth taking it up. My husband has been looking at various investment companies, and he is finding that all of them so far, are not available to US citizens. We had to open a HSBC expat account, to access his 401K. Neither of our US bank accounts accept an address outside of the US, so we have kept a US cell phone number with Mint( good advice from here) and changed our address to one of our kids. It's seemingly small things like that, which keep tripping us up.
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The thing that tripped me up here was trying to get a credit card. I'd been an amex customer for a couple decades in the US and was 'assured' by several customer reps in the US that I would not have any issues opening an amex account in the UK. But that turned out to be untrue, because they insisted on current year proof of income in the UK which I could not provide due to living off savings for the first few months. However, I already had a HSBC Expat bank account, which enabled me to open a HSBC UK bank account without having to jump through any more hoops, and fromt there it was easy to get a HSBC UK mastercard. Long way for a short cut, but it means I do now have a traceable financial footprint in the UK.




