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Re: Just another cursed expat!
Thank you all for the words of advise and I will certainly take them into consideration as me and my OH decide what to do. Regarding whether my wife would go back to Scotland again, she has said she would do it for me, but I can't help but feeling guilty that part of her may not want to go. In terms of giving Seattle a try and maybe being swayed by events elsewhere in the US, I am not convinced that is the case, because the attitudes for example regarding guns still seems to somewhat prevail even here in Seattle. So even though the scenery and politicians have changed from the mid-west, the same disconnect I have with US ideologies still seems to linger even here. I have often wondered what makes some expats make it work here in the US and others just can't seem to connect.:confused:
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Re: Just another cursed expat!
Originally Posted by HighlandPenguin
(Post 10533820)
Thank you all for the words of advise and I will certainly take them into consideration as me and my OH decide what to do. Regarding whether my wife would go back to Scotland again, she has said she would do it for me, but I can't help but feeling guilty that part of her may not want to go. In terms of giving Seattle a try and maybe being swayed by events elsewhere in the US, I am not convinced that is the case, because the attitudes for example regarding guns still seems to somewhat prevail even here in Seattle. So even though the scenery and politicians have changed from the mid-west, the same disconnect I have with US ideologies still seems to linger even here. I have often wondered what makes some expats make it work here in the US and others just can't seem to connect.:confused:
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Re: Just another cursed expat!
Originally Posted by kimilseung
(Post 10533461)
we hear about them and know that the dragons exist over in Eastern Washington, but it is rare for us to come up face to face with them.
But you could be right. My brother decided a few months after he graduated from WSU that he was out of here and off to Hawaii. He loves it back there and swears he will never return. Never gave any reasons though :( |
Re: Just another cursed expat!
Originally Posted by Desdemona
(Post 10534551)
What dragons in Eastern Washington :confused: Just looked under my bed and out in the yard and everywhere, don't see any :ohmy:
But you could be right. My brother decided a few months after he graduated from WSU that he was out of here and off to Hawaii. He loves it back there and swears he will never return. Never gave any reasons though :( This displays the general division in WA http://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/s...s=53&year=2012 |
Re: Just another cursed expat!
Originally Posted by kimilseung
(Post 10534575)
I chose my words carefully, I used dragons, because it is the scary land beyond the mountains that I do not really know very much about, and visit little, but hear odd things about.
This displays the general division in WA http://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/s...s=53&year=2012 The odd thigs you have heard are probably very true! |
Re: Just another cursed expat!
We have now been here almost two months and if I had the money I would be on a plane tomorrow back to Scotland. My almost 10 years living here in the US has culminated in my feeling a deep disconnect with the country. This became more apparent to me after the spate of shootings running up to the Sandy Hook massacre. Surely I am not the only British Expat who is disgusted with the obsession of guns and the 2nd amendment in this country? I am shocked at how desensitized most Americans are to the gun violence in the US. I am further disturbed by the many that truly believe the 2nd amendment gives them the right to protect themselves against a “tyrannical governmentâ€. It has dawned on me that this so-called protection against a government is the very source of why so many Americans don’t trust the Federal Government or anything federally mandated like God forbid, universal healthcare. Between these alien ideologies to me, lack of employee rights compared to the UK and a need to be closer to my family, I am driven to feel the need to leave the States. Are these thoughts of mine out of place and am I mad for yet again wanting to ping-pong back across the Atlantic to the UK? I so wish I had come to this realization when I was in the UK, as it would have saved a lot of time and energy. Needless to say my OH is tired of all the moving and I don’t blame her as we need to settle down, especially if we decide to have kids. But that is just it too. If we are to have kids, I would much rather have them raised in the UK. Then I wonder if a move to the UK would have my OH feeling the same way about the UK as I do about the US. Please let me know if I am loosing the plot and if I have rose tinted glasses on or if I should try to see if Seattle will improve with time? Although I somehow think after 10 years living in different parts of the US, that I should know by now whether I like the place or not. Honestly, I would say leave if the feeling is strong enough. Do what you can to make it happen. My husband was happy when we moved here, of course he was also happy to stay in Colorado when we moved from there, he was also sick of moving around and at 3 months when I was sure I did not want to stay here anymore he was my biggest battle. So I told myself I will give it 6 months and if the feeling still did not change, we would work on moving. Here we are 3 and a half years later and just now starting to work on actually moving. I regret (and get mad) that it took so stupidly long, so my advice is if the feeling is strong enough then you know what you need to do. |
Re: Just another cursed expat!
Thank you all for the words of advise and I will certainly take them into consideration as me and my OH decide what to do. Regarding whether my wife would go back to Scotland again, she has said she would do it for me, but I can't help but feeling guilty that part of her may not want to go. In terms of giving Seattle a try and maybe being swayed by events elsewhere in the US, I am not convinced that is the case, because the attitudes for example regarding guns still seems to somewhat prevail even here in Seattle. So even though the scenery and politicians have changed from the mid-west, the same disconnect I have with US ideologies still seems to linger even here. I have often wondered what makes some expats make it work here in the US and others just can't seem to connect. If your wife is willing to make the move back, then I don't think you should feel a need to feel guilty over it. If it's not working, it's not working and she sees that enough to want to try something that may work. You're lucky in that regard. |
Re: Just another cursed expat!
Originally Posted by Beccarose
(Post 10534719)
Truth is it's not just expats. There are Americans (myself included) who can't seem to fit in either. I suspect that's true with all countries and cultures, there are those that seem to stick out and who can't quite understand the local ideologies and ways of thinking. Truth is eventhough I grew up in the US and have always lived here (minus a little time in Sweden) I still can't seem to make it work. I disagree with too much and have felt for a very long time that I just don't belong here.
If your wife is willing to make the move back, then I don't think you should feel a need to feel guilty over it. If it's not working, it's not working and she sees that enough to want to try something that may work. You're lucky in that regard. |
Re: Just another cursed expat!
I too agree with you in the 2nd amendment. I just dont get the whole gun thing at all. I can't wait to leave I have been in upstate NY for 6 years an have never really fitted in. I always had friends in Scotland and then I came here and no one really bothers with you. I miss so much about being home especially how friendly everyone is I can go out all day here and no one will talk to me. Back in Scotland wee grannies chat to you people in shops talk to you etc. I used to think the culture was very homely before I got here and it is quite the opposite in my experience. I find people plesant enough but it all feels too artificial and there is no depth to any of my relationships here.
I guess one good thing about us all being so homesick is that you don't take things back home for granted. You appreciate things much more when your gone. So when I do get back I totally absorb myself into my whole culture and become a tourist in my own home :) I also have great respect for the NHS all its faults it rocks in my book. But man I sure do miss a good chippy and having real food. I hate all the junk in the food here. |
Re: Just another cursed expat!
Originally Posted by mandianna
(Post 10539182)
I too agree with you in the 2nd amendment. I just dont get the whole gun thing at all. I can't wait to leave I have been in upstate NY for 6 years an have never really fitted in. I always had friends in Scotland and then I came here and no one really bothers with you. I miss so much about being home especially how friendly everyone is I can go out all day here and no one will talk to me. Back in Scotland wee grannies chat to you people in shops talk to you etc. I used to think the culture was very homely before I got here and it is quite the opposite in my experience. I find people plesant enough but it all feels too artificial and there is no depth to any of my relationships here.
I guess one good thing about us all being so homesick is that you don't take things back home for granted. You appreciate things much more when your gone. So when I do get back I totally absorb myself into my whole culture and become a tourist in my own home :) I also have great respect for the NHS all its faults it rocks in my book. But man I sure do miss a good chippy and having real food. I hate all the junk in the food here. |
Re: Just another cursed expat!
Originally Posted by pomikev
(Post 10533445)
I used to think so too, by at least with the tories you know they are going to fleece you and they make no attempt to hide the fact that they are all Margo Ledbetters and are lap dogs to the aristocracy, With labour you get fleeced just as badly while they pretend to be for the working man, and that is hypocrisy, and the older I get the higher that word goes on my list of disgusting character traits.
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Re: Just another cursed expat!
Originally Posted by luvwelly
(Post 10533258)
I flipping hope not or England will never get a non-Tory Government again.
Opinion polls currently show a majority wants to stay in the Union. |
Re: Just another cursed expat!
Originally Posted by windsong
(Post 10541449)
I am still re-acquainting myself with what is going on over there so forgive me if this is a silly question. If Scotland gets its independence from the UK and becomes a separate country, will Scotland at that point still be part of the EU?
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Re: Just another cursed expat!
Originally Posted by windsong
(Post 10541449)
I am still re-acquainting myself with what is going on over there so forgive me if this is a silly question. If Scotland gets its independence from the UK and becomes a separate country, will Scotland at that point still be part of the EU?
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Re: Just another cursed expat!
Thank you Kimilseung and Highland Penguin. From what I have read it almost sounds as though the UK would be better off out of the EU, although I am still learning about it all. For this reason, I thought that if Scotland was to achieve independence, it would kill two birds with one stone ;) Of course, I'd much prefer to keep the UK as it is now - all one country - because that is how I remember it. However, I have seen a lot of promotion for Scotland's independence over the Internet and it really made me wonder how things stood.
Thanks again! |
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