Originally Posted by jan

For all you dreamers out there of how wonderful life will be back in the u.k.
Whilst it may be good for many going back it is very bad for some.I am on holiday right now in the u.k s.e.london at the moment, i have been back here for four weeks and reading the papers i would say it is the most depressing i have ever known,the politics(say no more,stealth taxes,spying in dustbins,the idea of working out how much you should pay in rates depending if you have...Nice views,a smart house,and have taken the time and money to make your home nice you should pay more tax for it !QUOTE Daily mail saturday 24/3 page 2 £1,000 fines by i.d.card secret police. A POLICE FORCE HAS BEEN SET UP TO ISSUE £1,000 FINES TO ANYONE TO UPDATE THEIR PERSONAL DETAILS ON THE GOVERNMENT'S NEW DATA BASE, IT HAS EMERGED. THE UNIT, PART OF THE IDENDITY AND PASSPORT SERVICE, IS EXPECTED TO SEND THE PENALITIES BY POST, AFTER SNOOPING THROUGH COMPUTER RECORDS. POTENTIAL PITFALLS INCLUDE, FOGETTING TO TELL THE GOVERNMENT OF A CHANGE OF ADDRESS OR NAME, FAILING TO NOTIFY OFFICIALS OF AN ERROR ON THE NATIONAL IDENTITY REGISTER AND FAILING TO HAND IN AN ID CARD BELONGING TO A RELATIVE WHO HAS DIED. ALL CASH RAISED WILL GO TO THE TREASURY. LAST NIGHT IT ALSO EMERGED THE REGISTER WILL BE USED AS A POPULATION DATA BASE TO REPLACE THE HISTORIC CENSUS. FROM 2009 ANYBODY APPLYING FOR A PASSPORT MUST ENROL ON THE REGISTER AND HAND OVER A RAFT OF DETAILS, LIKELY TO INCLUDE FINANCIAL DATA AND ADDRESS LISTS AS WELL AS HAVE FINGER PRINTS AND A FACIAL SCAN TAKEN. SHADOW HOME SECRETARY DAVID DAVIS SAID "THIS SINSTER FORCE WILL BE COLLECTING MONEY FROM UK CITIZENS TO GO STRAIGHT INTO THE TREASURY, THERE IS A REAL DANGER THIS WILL BE ANOTHER STEALTH TAX". THE HOME OFFICE INSISTED THAT THE £1,000 FINE FOR NOT RETURNING A DEAD RELATIVES ID CARD WAS DESIGNED TO PREVENT MISUSE. OFFICIALS PROMISED TO HANDLE THE RETURN OF SUCH CARDS SENSITIVELY. THEY REFUSED TO SAY HOW MANY CIVIL SERVANTS WOULD BE NEEDED TO CREATE THE NEW "POLICE FORCE", THOUGH SCORES ARE LIKELY TO MONITOR THE RECORDS OF ALL BRITIONS.

Originally Posted by fishfinger

Can we just stop this now thanks!

Originally Posted by jan

Yes i know all rather drull. I promise not to continue on this thread as it is boring i was merely answering back the sad individuals including your good self who were attacking me for expressing a view.
From now on anyone who has something to say P.M. Bring it on!

Originally Posted by jan

Yes i know all rather drull. I promise not to continue on this thread as it is boring i was merely answering back the sad individuals including your good self who were attacking me for expressing a view.
From now on anyone who has something to say P.M. Bring it on!

Originally Posted by Big Pete

The mistake you made jan was reporting anything negative about the Uk , they dont want to know for some reason !!

I personaly welcome all feedback on Spain and would be annoyed if i got there and then found out its not what i expected ! But here it seems they prefer to keep there heads in the sand

Now if you had posted "Wow just got back from Blighty and you had a cream cake in the sunshine and it was lovely" You would have lots of praise

So dont report negative anymore .. You know what its like and so do i and millions of others , but let them see for themselves

Originally Posted by northernbird

Pete, this is the Moving BACK to the UK forum. They all know that the UK has its problems they don't need telling by you or Jan. For the people returning home it is just that HOME.

Originally Posted by Big Pete

Exactly i know thats what i just said isnt it .. Thats why i never posted before ..

Originally Posted by Big Pete

So dont report negative anymore .. You know what its like and so do i and millions of others , but let them see for themselves

Originally Posted by Big Pete

The mistake you made jan was reporting anything negative about the Uk , they dont want to know for some reason !!

I personaly welcome all feedback on Spain and would be annoyed if i got there and then found out its not what i expected ! But here it seems they prefer to keep there heads in the sand

Now if you had posted "Wow just got back from Blighty and you had a cream cake in the sunshine and it was lovely" You would have lots of praise

So dont report negative anymore .. You know what its like and so do i and millions of others , but let them see for themselves

Originally Posted by fishfinger

Pete, I know what the UK is like, I lived there for 33 years, I go back regularly and I have lots of family there. I just don't need to keep hearing negative postings about the place I already know enough about. It really isn't helpful, thanks

Originally Posted by Big Pete

Point taken fishfinger

Originally Posted by northernbird

you were taking the piss. just leave them alone why don't you. Why do you and Jan feel the need to spout all the UK is crap nonsense. For the most part of my life in England I was not affected by any of the things you and Jan have mentioned in your posts and I dare say a lot of the others who are moving back aren't either. I know its an open forum but just leave them alone why don't you.

Originally Posted by Jerseygirl

Same as what she's just said.

Originally Posted by northernbird

Originally Posted by Jerseygirl

I'm agreeing with you...my thoughts exactly.