Good OLD Blighty shame about the NEW.
same old record!
Mar 25th 2007, 8:59 pm
#17
Grace and gratitude
Joined: Mar 2007
Location: Somewhere else
Posts: 6,409
Mar 25th 2007, 9:17 pm
#18
Grace and gratitude
Joined: Mar 2007
Location: Somewhere else
Posts: 6,409
Re: Good OLD Blighty shame about the NEW.
For all you dreamers out there of how wonderful life will be back in the u.k.
Whilst it may be good for many going back it is very bad for some.I am on holiday right now in the u.k s.e.london at the moment, i have been back here for four weeks and reading the papers i would say it is the most depressing i have ever known,the politics(say no more,stealth taxes,spying in dustbins,the idea of working out how much you should pay in rates depending if you have...Nice views,a smart house,and have taken the time and money to make your home nice you should pay more tax for it !QUOTE Daily mail saturday 24/3 page 2 £1,000 fines by i.d.card secret police. A POLICE FORCE HAS BEEN SET UP TO ISSUE £1,000 FINES TO ANYONE TO UPDATE THEIR PERSONAL DETAILS ON THE GOVERNMENT'S NEW DATA BASE, IT HAS EMERGED. THE UNIT, PART OF THE IDENDITY AND PASSPORT SERVICE, IS EXPECTED TO SEND THE PENALITIES BY POST, AFTER SNOOPING THROUGH COMPUTER RECORDS. POTENTIAL PITFALLS INCLUDE, FOGETTING TO TELL THE GOVERNMENT OF A CHANGE OF ADDRESS OR NAME, FAILING TO NOTIFY OFFICIALS OF AN ERROR ON THE NATIONAL IDENTITY REGISTER AND FAILING TO HAND IN AN ID CARD BELONGING TO A RELATIVE WHO HAS DIED. ALL CASH RAISED WILL GO TO THE TREASURY. LAST NIGHT IT ALSO EMERGED THE REGISTER WILL BE USED AS A POPULATION DATA BASE TO REPLACE THE HISTORIC CENSUS. FROM 2009 ANYBODY APPLYING FOR A PASSPORT MUST ENROL ON THE REGISTER AND HAND OVER A RAFT OF DETAILS, LIKELY TO INCLUDE FINANCIAL DATA AND ADDRESS LISTS AS WELL AS HAVE FINGER PRINTS AND A FACIAL SCAN TAKEN. SHADOW HOME SECRETARY DAVID DAVIS SAID "THIS SINSTER FORCE WILL BE COLLECTING MONEY FROM UK CITIZENS TO GO STRAIGHT INTO THE TREASURY, THERE IS A REAL DANGER THIS WILL BE ANOTHER STEALTH TAX". THE HOME OFFICE INSISTED THAT THE £1,000 FINE FOR NOT RETURNING A DEAD RELATIVES ID CARD WAS DESIGNED TO PREVENT MISUSE. OFFICIALS PROMISED TO HANDLE THE RETURN OF SUCH CARDS SENSITIVELY. THEY REFUSED TO SAY HOW MANY CIVIL SERVANTS WOULD BE NEEDED TO CREATE THE NEW "POLICE FORCE", THOUGH SCORES ARE LIKELY TO MONITOR THE RECORDS OF ALL BRITIONS.
Whilst it may be good for many going back it is very bad for some.I am on holiday right now in the u.k s.e.london at the moment, i have been back here for four weeks and reading the papers i would say it is the most depressing i have ever known,the politics(say no more,stealth taxes,spying in dustbins,the idea of working out how much you should pay in rates depending if you have...Nice views,a smart house,and have taken the time and money to make your home nice you should pay more tax for it !QUOTE Daily mail saturday 24/3 page 2 £1,000 fines by i.d.card secret police. A POLICE FORCE HAS BEEN SET UP TO ISSUE £1,000 FINES TO ANYONE TO UPDATE THEIR PERSONAL DETAILS ON THE GOVERNMENT'S NEW DATA BASE, IT HAS EMERGED. THE UNIT, PART OF THE IDENDITY AND PASSPORT SERVICE, IS EXPECTED TO SEND THE PENALITIES BY POST, AFTER SNOOPING THROUGH COMPUTER RECORDS. POTENTIAL PITFALLS INCLUDE, FOGETTING TO TELL THE GOVERNMENT OF A CHANGE OF ADDRESS OR NAME, FAILING TO NOTIFY OFFICIALS OF AN ERROR ON THE NATIONAL IDENTITY REGISTER AND FAILING TO HAND IN AN ID CARD BELONGING TO A RELATIVE WHO HAS DIED. ALL CASH RAISED WILL GO TO THE TREASURY. LAST NIGHT IT ALSO EMERGED THE REGISTER WILL BE USED AS A POPULATION DATA BASE TO REPLACE THE HISTORIC CENSUS. FROM 2009 ANYBODY APPLYING FOR A PASSPORT MUST ENROL ON THE REGISTER AND HAND OVER A RAFT OF DETAILS, LIKELY TO INCLUDE FINANCIAL DATA AND ADDRESS LISTS AS WELL AS HAVE FINGER PRINTS AND A FACIAL SCAN TAKEN. SHADOW HOME SECRETARY DAVID DAVIS SAID "THIS SINSTER FORCE WILL BE COLLECTING MONEY FROM UK CITIZENS TO GO STRAIGHT INTO THE TREASURY, THERE IS A REAL DANGER THIS WILL BE ANOTHER STEALTH TAX". THE HOME OFFICE INSISTED THAT THE £1,000 FINE FOR NOT RETURNING A DEAD RELATIVES ID CARD WAS DESIGNED TO PREVENT MISUSE. OFFICIALS PROMISED TO HANDLE THE RETURN OF SUCH CARDS SENSITIVELY. THEY REFUSED TO SAY HOW MANY CIVIL SERVANTS WOULD BE NEEDED TO CREATE THE NEW "POLICE FORCE", THOUGH SCORES ARE LIKELY TO MONITOR THE RECORDS OF ALL BRITIONS.
Hi jan - CERTAIN newspapers are aligned to certain political parties and hence will write articles accordingly - funny when the conservatives were in power, CERTAIN papers could not write enough about how life in the UK was so great!!
Mar 26th 2007, 2:29 am
#19
BE Enthusiast
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 557
Re: Good OLD Blighty shame about the NEW.
So whats the problem with this any-way?
do you really think people cant get hold of your financial details now?????
The public database will help with crime, I am all for every one being fingerprinted at a certain age and compiling a database, it might just help with some of the crime problems in the Uk.
Wont stop me going back thats for sure, the only thing the recent tax increase on 4x4 will do is increase the desire to have them.
Finger printing and eye scans are done on entry to the USA, this is not much different.
do you really think people cant get hold of your financial details now?????
The public database will help with crime, I am all for every one being fingerprinted at a certain age and compiling a database, it might just help with some of the crime problems in the Uk.
Wont stop me going back thats for sure, the only thing the recent tax increase on 4x4 will do is increase the desire to have them.
Finger printing and eye scans are done on entry to the USA, this is not much different.
Mar 26th 2007, 2:55 am
#20
Moderαtor Emeritus
Joined: Sep 2003
Location: Upstate South Carolina
Posts: 30,768
Re: Good OLD Blighty shame about the NEW.
This forum is for anyone who wants to discuss the issues arising from or likely to arise from returning to the UK.
There are negative aspects to living in the UK that people might forget after years away from it. Heaven forbid some people thinking of returning should have to take their rose tinted shades of for a few moments.
Its unlikely there will be much balanced discussion of the pros and cons of returning to the UK if slanging of any negative post (even one based on the Daily Mail) is encouraged.
Mar 26th 2007, 10:16 am
#21
SUPER MODERATOR
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 88,086
Re: Good OLD Blighty shame about the NEW.
I would have expect better from a moderator.
This forum is for anyone who wants to discuss the issues arising from or likely to arise from returning to the UK.
There are negative aspects to living in the UK that people might forget after years away from it. Heaven forbid some people thinking of returning should have to take their rose tinted shades of for a few moments.
Its unlikely there will be much balanced discussion of the pros and cons of returning to the UK if slanging of any negative post (even one based on the Daily Mail) is encouraged.
This forum is for anyone who wants to discuss the issues arising from or likely to arise from returning to the UK.
There are negative aspects to living in the UK that people might forget after years away from it. Heaven forbid some people thinking of returning should have to take their rose tinted shades of for a few moments.
Its unlikely there will be much balanced discussion of the pros and cons of returning to the UK if slanging of any negative post (even one based on the Daily Mail) is encouraged.
Mar 26th 2007, 10:21 am
#22
Account Closed
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 15,455
Re: Good OLD Blighty shame about the NEW.
Tinfoil hat time.
Mar 26th 2007, 10:26 am
#23
Lost in BE Cyberspace
Joined: Jul 2004
Location: Victoria, BC Canada
Posts: 61,698
Re: Good OLD Blighty shame about the NEW.
I would have expect better from a moderator.
This forum is for anyone who wants to discuss the issues arising from or likely to arise from returning to the UK.
There are negative aspects to living in the UK that people might forget after years away from it. Heaven forbid some people thinking of returning should have to take their rose tinted shades of for a few moments.
Its unlikely there will be much balanced discussion of the pros and cons of returning to the UK if slanging of any negative post (even one based on the Daily Mail) is encouraged.
This forum is for anyone who wants to discuss the issues arising from or likely to arise from returning to the UK.
There are negative aspects to living in the UK that people might forget after years away from it. Heaven forbid some people thinking of returning should have to take their rose tinted shades of for a few moments.
Its unlikely there will be much balanced discussion of the pros and cons of returning to the UK if slanging of any negative post (even one based on the Daily Mail) is encouraged.
With all due respect, if I could just make a wee comment. Jerseygirl is really one of the nicest and kindest people you will find on the forum, whether as a mod or just a friend. I think that when you get to know her, you will realize that as well.
Mar 26th 2007, 10:29 am
#24
Just Joined
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 2
Re: Good OLD Blighty shame about the NEW.
For all you dreamers out there of how wonderful life will be back in the u.k.
Whilst it may be good for many going back it is very bad for some.I am on holiday right now in the u.k s.e.london at the moment, i have been back here for four weeks and reading the papers i would say it is the most depressing i have ever known,the politics(say no more,stealth taxes,spying in dustbins,the idea of working out how much you should pay in rates depending if you have...Nice views,a smart house,and have taken the time and money to make your home nice you should pay more tax for it !QUOTE Daily mail saturday 24/3 page 2 £1,000 fines by i.d.card secret police. A POLICE FORCE HAS BEEN SET UP TO ISSUE £1,000 FINES TO ANYONE TO UPDATE THEIR PERSONAL DETAILS ON THE GOVERNMENT'S NEW DATA BASE, IT HAS EMERGED. THE UNIT, PART OF THE IDENDITY AND PASSPORT SERVICE, IS EXPECTED TO SEND THE PENALITIES BY POST, AFTER SNOOPING THROUGH COMPUTER RECORDS. POTENTIAL PITFALLS INCLUDE, FOGETTING TO TELL THE GOVERNMENT OF A CHANGE OF ADDRESS OR NAME, FAILING TO NOTIFY OFFICIALS OF AN ERROR ON THE NATIONAL IDENTITY REGISTER AND FAILING TO HAND IN AN ID CARD BELONGING TO A RELATIVE WHO HAS DIED. ALL CASH RAISED WILL GO TO THE TREASURY. LAST NIGHT IT ALSO EMERGED THE REGISTER WILL BE USED AS A POPULATION DATA BASE TO REPLACE THE HISTORIC CENSUS. FROM 2009 ANYBODY APPLYING FOR A PASSPORT MUST ENROL ON THE REGISTER AND HAND OVER A RAFT OF DETAILS, LIKELY TO INCLUDE FINANCIAL DATA AND ADDRESS LISTS AS WELL AS HAVE FINGER PRINTS AND A FACIAL SCAN TAKEN. SHADOW HOME SECRETARY DAVID DAVIS SAID "THIS SINSTER FORCE WILL BE COLLECTING MONEY FROM UK CITIZENS TO GO STRAIGHT INTO THE TREASURY, THERE IS A REAL DANGER THIS WILL BE ANOTHER STEALTH TAX". THE HOME OFFICE INSISTED THAT THE £1,000 FINE FOR NOT RETURNING A DEAD RELATIVES ID CARD WAS DESIGNED TO PREVENT MISUSE. OFFICIALS PROMISED TO HANDLE THE RETURN OF SUCH CARDS SENSITIVELY. THEY REFUSED TO SAY HOW MANY CIVIL SERVANTS WOULD BE NEEDED TO CREATE THE NEW "POLICE FORCE", THOUGH SCORES ARE LIKELY TO MONITOR THE RECORDS OF ALL BRITIONS.
Whilst it may be good for many going back it is very bad for some.I am on holiday right now in the u.k s.e.london at the moment, i have been back here for four weeks and reading the papers i would say it is the most depressing i have ever known,the politics(say no more,stealth taxes,spying in dustbins,the idea of working out how much you should pay in rates depending if you have...Nice views,a smart house,and have taken the time and money to make your home nice you should pay more tax for it !QUOTE Daily mail saturday 24/3 page 2 £1,000 fines by i.d.card secret police. A POLICE FORCE HAS BEEN SET UP TO ISSUE £1,000 FINES TO ANYONE TO UPDATE THEIR PERSONAL DETAILS ON THE GOVERNMENT'S NEW DATA BASE, IT HAS EMERGED. THE UNIT, PART OF THE IDENDITY AND PASSPORT SERVICE, IS EXPECTED TO SEND THE PENALITIES BY POST, AFTER SNOOPING THROUGH COMPUTER RECORDS. POTENTIAL PITFALLS INCLUDE, FOGETTING TO TELL THE GOVERNMENT OF A CHANGE OF ADDRESS OR NAME, FAILING TO NOTIFY OFFICIALS OF AN ERROR ON THE NATIONAL IDENTITY REGISTER AND FAILING TO HAND IN AN ID CARD BELONGING TO A RELATIVE WHO HAS DIED. ALL CASH RAISED WILL GO TO THE TREASURY. LAST NIGHT IT ALSO EMERGED THE REGISTER WILL BE USED AS A POPULATION DATA BASE TO REPLACE THE HISTORIC CENSUS. FROM 2009 ANYBODY APPLYING FOR A PASSPORT MUST ENROL ON THE REGISTER AND HAND OVER A RAFT OF DETAILS, LIKELY TO INCLUDE FINANCIAL DATA AND ADDRESS LISTS AS WELL AS HAVE FINGER PRINTS AND A FACIAL SCAN TAKEN. SHADOW HOME SECRETARY DAVID DAVIS SAID "THIS SINSTER FORCE WILL BE COLLECTING MONEY FROM UK CITIZENS TO GO STRAIGHT INTO THE TREASURY, THERE IS A REAL DANGER THIS WILL BE ANOTHER STEALTH TAX". THE HOME OFFICE INSISTED THAT THE £1,000 FINE FOR NOT RETURNING A DEAD RELATIVES ID CARD WAS DESIGNED TO PREVENT MISUSE. OFFICIALS PROMISED TO HANDLE THE RETURN OF SUCH CARDS SENSITIVELY. THEY REFUSED TO SAY HOW MANY CIVIL SERVANTS WOULD BE NEEDED TO CREATE THE NEW "POLICE FORCE", THOUGH SCORES ARE LIKELY TO MONITOR THE RECORDS OF ALL BRITIONS.
Mar 26th 2007, 12:29 pm
#25
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 1,560
Re: Good OLD Blighty shame about the NEW.
You shouldn't listen to everythingyou read!!!!
if the uk is so bad why do millions of people live there?? i think what some people need to remember is every country has its problems and the press play on this they do have papers to sell after all dont they!!!!
kez
if the uk is so bad why do millions of people live there?? i think what some people need to remember is every country has its problems and the press play on this they do have papers to sell after all dont they!!!!
kez
Mar 26th 2007, 2:06 pm
#27
Lost in BE Cyberspace
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 10,375
Re: Good OLD Blighty shame about the NEW.
For all you dreamers out there of how wonderful life will be back in the u.k.
Whilst it may be good for many going back it is very bad for some.I am on holiday right now in the u.k s.e.london at the moment, i have been back here for four weeks and reading the papers i would say it is the most depressing i have ever known,the politics(say no more,stealth taxes,spying in dustbins,the idea of working out how much you should pay in rates depending if you have...Nice views,a smart house,and have taken the time and money to make your home nice you should pay more tax for it !QUOTE Daily mail saturday 24/3 page 2 £1,000 fines by i.d.card secret police. A POLICE FORCE HAS BEEN SET UP TO ISSUE £1,000 FINES TO ANYONE TO UPDATE THEIR PERSONAL DETAILS ON THE GOVERNMENT'S NEW DATA BASE, IT HAS EMERGED. THE UNIT, PART OF THE IDENDITY AND PASSPORT SERVICE, IS EXPECTED TO SEND THE PENALITIES BY POST, AFTER SNOOPING THROUGH COMPUTER RECORDS. POTENTIAL PITFALLS INCLUDE, FOGETTING TO TELL THE GOVERNMENT OF A CHANGE OF ADDRESS OR NAME, FAILING TO NOTIFY OFFICIALS OF AN ERROR ON THE NATIONAL IDENTITY REGISTER AND FAILING TO HAND IN AN ID CARD BELONGING TO A RELATIVE WHO HAS DIED. ALL CASH RAISED WILL GO TO THE TREASURY. LAST NIGHT IT ALSO EMERGED THE REGISTER WILL BE USED AS A POPULATION DATA BASE TO REPLACE THE HISTORIC CENSUS. FROM 2009 ANYBODY APPLYING FOR A PASSPORT MUST ENROL ON THE REGISTER AND HAND OVER A RAFT OF DETAILS, LIKELY TO INCLUDE FINANCIAL DATA AND ADDRESS LISTS AS WELL AS HAVE FINGER PRINTS AND A FACIAL SCAN TAKEN. SHADOW HOME SECRETARY DAVID DAVIS SAID "THIS SINSTER FORCE WILL BE COLLECTING MONEY FROM UK CITIZENS TO GO STRAIGHT INTO THE TREASURY, THERE IS A REAL DANGER THIS WILL BE ANOTHER STEALTH TAX". THE HOME OFFICE INSISTED THAT THE £1,000 FINE FOR NOT RETURNING A DEAD RELATIVES ID CARD WAS DESIGNED TO PREVENT MISUSE. OFFICIALS PROMISED TO HANDLE THE RETURN OF SUCH CARDS SENSITIVELY. THEY REFUSED TO SAY HOW MANY CIVIL SERVANTS WOULD BE NEEDED TO CREATE THE NEW "POLICE FORCE", THOUGH SCORES ARE LIKELY TO MONITOR THE RECORDS OF ALL BRITIONS.
Whilst it may be good for many going back it is very bad for some.I am on holiday right now in the u.k s.e.london at the moment, i have been back here for four weeks and reading the papers i would say it is the most depressing i have ever known,the politics(say no more,stealth taxes,spying in dustbins,the idea of working out how much you should pay in rates depending if you have...Nice views,a smart house,and have taken the time and money to make your home nice you should pay more tax for it !QUOTE Daily mail saturday 24/3 page 2 £1,000 fines by i.d.card secret police. A POLICE FORCE HAS BEEN SET UP TO ISSUE £1,000 FINES TO ANYONE TO UPDATE THEIR PERSONAL DETAILS ON THE GOVERNMENT'S NEW DATA BASE, IT HAS EMERGED. THE UNIT, PART OF THE IDENDITY AND PASSPORT SERVICE, IS EXPECTED TO SEND THE PENALITIES BY POST, AFTER SNOOPING THROUGH COMPUTER RECORDS. POTENTIAL PITFALLS INCLUDE, FOGETTING TO TELL THE GOVERNMENT OF A CHANGE OF ADDRESS OR NAME, FAILING TO NOTIFY OFFICIALS OF AN ERROR ON THE NATIONAL IDENTITY REGISTER AND FAILING TO HAND IN AN ID CARD BELONGING TO A RELATIVE WHO HAS DIED. ALL CASH RAISED WILL GO TO THE TREASURY. LAST NIGHT IT ALSO EMERGED THE REGISTER WILL BE USED AS A POPULATION DATA BASE TO REPLACE THE HISTORIC CENSUS. FROM 2009 ANYBODY APPLYING FOR A PASSPORT MUST ENROL ON THE REGISTER AND HAND OVER A RAFT OF DETAILS, LIKELY TO INCLUDE FINANCIAL DATA AND ADDRESS LISTS AS WELL AS HAVE FINGER PRINTS AND A FACIAL SCAN TAKEN. SHADOW HOME SECRETARY DAVID DAVIS SAID "THIS SINSTER FORCE WILL BE COLLECTING MONEY FROM UK CITIZENS TO GO STRAIGHT INTO THE TREASURY, THERE IS A REAL DANGER THIS WILL BE ANOTHER STEALTH TAX". THE HOME OFFICE INSISTED THAT THE £1,000 FINE FOR NOT RETURNING A DEAD RELATIVES ID CARD WAS DESIGNED TO PREVENT MISUSE. OFFICIALS PROMISED TO HANDLE THE RETURN OF SUCH CARDS SENSITIVELY. THEY REFUSED TO SAY HOW MANY CIVIL SERVANTS WOULD BE NEEDED TO CREATE THE NEW "POLICE FORCE", THOUGH SCORES ARE LIKELY TO MONITOR THE RECORDS OF ALL BRITIONS.
You enjoyed it then
Mar 26th 2007, 9:44 pm
#28
Home and Happy
Joined: Dec 2002
Location: Keep true friends and puppets close, trust no-one else...
Posts: 93,844
Mar 27th 2007, 11:16 am
#29
classy clipper
Thread Starter
Joined: Apr 2005
Location: perth W.A.
Posts: 180
Re: Good OLD Blighty shame about the NEW.
OOH! AH! How defensive of you all bar one! Obviously that poster appreciates a different view. In response to the pond life single cell peeps who can only manage silly snide remarks i was merely quoting an article i had read. I am lucky enough to be able to return to the u.k. as often as i wish as i still have property there and also in France i am not anti - returnees to the u.k. i am sure having read your responses to my post many of you will indeed settle in very nicely to the New Blighty and wish you luck!
But please allow others to express their opinion as we are all entitled to that at the moment
But please allow others to express their opinion as we are all entitled to that at the moment
Mar 27th 2007, 11:20 am
#30
classy clipper
Thread Starter
Joined: Apr 2005
Location: perth W.A.
Posts: 180
Re: Good OLD Blighty shame about the NEW.
Pollyana. I was truly unaware that you are a dinner lady. Or perhaps a child earwiging? Whatever, dont get off your broomstick!
