EXCHANGE RATE
May 18th 2019, 12:54 pm
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EXCHANGE RATE
Hi all
Happy Saturday.
We are moving back to the UK next month from Canada
Does anyone know if HSBC premier account gives the mid-market exchange rate and if there are fees associated with that?
Transferwise and Moneycorp have mid-market rates and their exchange fees are transparent, but I notice a few people have had issues with transfer wise.
The exchange rate seems to be dropping, presumably with a no-deal brexit on the table.
Does anyone have experience of transferring funds after they return to the UK through HSBC with a HSBC UK account?
Thanks a lot
P
Happy Saturday.
We are moving back to the UK next month from Canada
Does anyone know if HSBC premier account gives the mid-market exchange rate and if there are fees associated with that?
Transferwise and Moneycorp have mid-market rates and their exchange fees are transparent, but I notice a few people have had issues with transfer wise.
The exchange rate seems to be dropping, presumably with a no-deal brexit on the table.
Does anyone have experience of transferring funds after they return to the UK through HSBC with a HSBC UK account?
Thanks a lot
P
May 18th 2019, 3:34 pm
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I have an HSBC account in both the UK and USA and regularly transfer money from the US to the UK. I also have a Transferwise account and Transferwise is always better. I often will have 2 windows open at the same time and line up a transfer on both the HSBC and Transferwise sites to see which will give me more and for sums between $5k and $10k Transferwise is always tens of £s better than HSBC.
When I had to transfer over £100,000 for a house purchase then HSBC was better.
When I had to transfer over £100,000 for a house purchase then HSBC was better.
May 18th 2019, 3:49 pm
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Durham lad.
Thank you
was HSBC better because of the larger amount you needed to transfer for the house purchase ?
Thanks.
Thank you
was HSBC better because of the larger amount you needed to transfer for the house purchase ?
Thanks.
May 18th 2019, 4:31 pm
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Thank you very much. I will look into it.
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May 18th 2019, 7:29 pm
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I know that when you transfer funds from Europe to Canada, the banks must report any transaction over 10K to the tax office and they will require you either pay tax on that amount or prove that it had been previously taxed (not sure about the details). Is that the same in the UK? At what point (amount of cash) do the banks start asking questions about the source?
May 18th 2019, 7:36 pm
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Does transferwise still do the first transaction free of charge? Not sure if there are any additional conditions but it might be a good option when transferring a big chunk.
I know that when you transfer funds from Europe to Canada, the banks must report any transaction over 10K to the tax office and they will require you either pay tax on that amount or prove that it had been previously taxed (not sure about the details). Is that the same in the UK? At what point (amount of cash) do the banks start asking questions about the source?
I know that when you transfer funds from Europe to Canada, the banks must report any transaction over 10K to the tax office and they will require you either pay tax on that amount or prove that it had been previously taxed (not sure about the details). Is that the same in the UK? At what point (amount of cash) do the banks start asking questions about the source?
I have transferred $10k to $15k many times and Transferwise provides a drop down window to choose where the funds are coming from. When buying our house I had to provide a paper trail and that included, for me, recent brokerage statements and then transaction history showing the money going from my brokerage to HSBC USA and then between my HSBC USA and UK accounts.
Jun 19th 2019, 11:42 pm
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Hi, thank you to all who advised us, we opened the premier account today.
I asked about the dealing desk rate and was told there is a rate that is approved for 30 seconds at a time, over email or text, for transfers over 20000 GBP. Is this the same thing?
30 seconds doesn't seem like a long time to work things out?
Thanks
I asked about the dealing desk rate and was told there is a rate that is approved for 30 seconds at a time, over email or text, for transfers over 20000 GBP. Is this the same thing?
30 seconds doesn't seem like a long time to work things out?
Thanks
Jun 20th 2019, 2:11 pm
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Hi, thank you to all who advised us, we opened the premier account today.
I asked about the dealing desk rate and was told there is a rate that is approved for 30 seconds at a time, over email or text, for transfers over 20000 GBP. Is this the same thing?
30 seconds doesn't seem like a long time to work things out?
Thanks
I asked about the dealing desk rate and was told there is a rate that is approved for 30 seconds at a time, over email or text, for transfers over 20000 GBP. Is this the same thing?
30 seconds doesn't seem like a long time to work things out?
Thanks
ETA
HSBC USA Premier customers now get free wire transfers so you can choose to wire the funds to Transferwise and get the money same day in your UK account if HSBC Canada offer the same free wires. (You can always choose the wire option even if it costs a little extra)
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Jun 22nd 2019, 11:20 am
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Thank you very much Durham Lad!
Jun 23rd 2019, 3:22 am
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Hi, thank you to all who advised us, we opened the premier account today.
I asked about the dealing desk rate and was told there is a rate that is approved for 30 seconds at a time, over email or text, for transfers over 20000 GBP. Is this the same thing?
30 seconds doesn't seem like a long time to work things out?
Thanks
I asked about the dealing desk rate and was told there is a rate that is approved for 30 seconds at a time, over email or text, for transfers over 20000 GBP. Is this the same thing?
30 seconds doesn't seem like a long time to work things out?
Thanks
Jun 23rd 2019, 9:10 pm
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CIBC has some kind of promo going on now too. This keeps on popping up on facebook.
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Jun 23rd 2019, 10:41 pm
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We are waiting to see if the exchange rate between the States vs UK become equal. At that point it will be time to make some moves. Brexit is a real deal breaker. And although I don't support Boris Johnson, more than likely he will opt for a hard Brexit at the end of this process. Which is not only filled with uncertainty but also a lot of possible unforeseen damage.
Jun 24th 2019, 1:18 am
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Over the past 18 months or so, the USD has climbed about 10% against the EUR, so we can roughly discount that from the USD-GBP rate, in other words the USD has probably risen about 10% even if the demand for GBP is constant. In other words, the pound might not have fallen, rather the dollar has risen. Of course you might argue that the Euro has fallen - there are almost an infinite number of ways to compare and explain exchange rates.
So maybe the pound will slide further (though I doubt it, no matter what happens with Brexit, hard, soft, or aborted), or, as I expect, it will bounce up in the short term as the biggest factor bearing down on the pound is "uncertainty", and investors hate uncertainty!
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Jun 29th 2019, 7:32 pm
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You are way off base. It is a common fallacy that an exchange rate "means something". It doesn't, is is just a ratio of value, the number of apples someone is prepared to swap for your oranges. It is pure economics 101 - supply and demand in action, and is a function of two different demands - those for US dollars, and for GBP.
Over the past 18 months or so, the USD has climbed about 10% against the EUR, so we can roughly discount that from the USD-GBP rate, in other words the USD has probably risen about 10% even if the demand for GBP is constant. In other words, the pound might not have fallen, rather the dollar has risen. Of course you might argue that the Euro has fallen - there are almost an infinite number of ways to compare and explain exchange rates.
So maybe the pound will slide further (though I doubt it, no matter what happens with Brexit, hard, soft, or aborted), or, as I expect, it will bounce up in the short term as the biggest factor bearing down on the pound is "uncertainty", and investors hate uncertainty!
Over the past 18 months or so, the USD has climbed about 10% against the EUR, so we can roughly discount that from the USD-GBP rate, in other words the USD has probably risen about 10% even if the demand for GBP is constant. In other words, the pound might not have fallen, rather the dollar has risen. Of course you might argue that the Euro has fallen - there are almost an infinite number of ways to compare and explain exchange rates.
So maybe the pound will slide further (though I doubt it, no matter what happens with Brexit, hard, soft, or aborted), or, as I expect, it will bounce up in the short term as the biggest factor bearing down on the pound is "uncertainty", and investors hate uncertainty!
