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kirstyp Mar 30th 2017 8:40 pm

Re: Customs Form .. Transfer of Residence
 

Originally Posted by princezxena (Post 12217662)
1. What should I do if i've not owned the residence i've previously stayed in the country before coming to UK, but was in my father or husband's name?

The form asks if it was a own house, rented or other... can i mark Other and leave a comment that it was owned by my husband or father? OR should i select own and attach purchase agreement of the house which is (obviously) not in my name?

Who did own the house? Husband or Father? Are you relocating to the UK with them? You only have to fill in one application per family if you're shipping all your things together so if they are coming with you their name will be on the form too so the purchase agreement in their name should be fine. If not you may need to provide a note explaining and make sure they can contact you if they have any questions.


2. Also, the date of goods arrival... should we give a definite date or it is a date that should be provided as a rough idea(plus or minus a week/10 days)?
If you know the definate date, give that, if you don't know yet ask your shipping company for the estimated date of arrival.

durham_lad Mar 31st 2017 3:15 am

Re: Customs Form .. Transfer of Residence
 

Originally Posted by princezxena (Post 12217662)
Hi everyone,

Can you please advice:

1. What should I do if i've not owned the residence i've previously stayed in the country before coming to UK, but was in my father or husband's name?

The form asks if it was a own house, rented or other... can i mark Other and leave a comment that it was owned by my husband or father? OR should i select own and attach purchase agreement of the house which is (obviously) not in my name?

2. Also, the date of goods arrival... should we give a definite date or it is a date that should be provided as a rough idea(plus or minus a week/10 days)?

Thank you very much for your answers in advance!:thumbup:

Regards,
Aparna

I think you are reading too much into it. For the previous address I would simply check other. Loads of folks, such as students going over to study and/or work, and shipping personal belongings will be moving from a residence not owned or rented by themselves.

When we moved over in January the shipping company would only say 4 to 6 weeks so I picked a date towards the end of that timeframe. The address the goods were being shipped to was not yet owned by us and if something had delayed or stopped the purchase we would have had to divert the shipment to a storage facility. But you can't easily explain that on a form so I just gave the address we hoped we would own by the time the goods arrived.

taramu Apr 27th 2017 7:55 pm

Re: Customs Form .. Transfer of Residence
 

Originally Posted by kirstyp (Post 12214870)
Robbie, I heard back from HMRC this morning on a few things.... they are planning to issue further guidance by way of a new information paper on the gov.uk paper in the next few weeks which will be really helpful. Regarding addresses they've indicated that this will say you can provide a temporary address with an explanation on why permanent address is not yet established.
They may then ask you to notify them of permanent address at a later stage, this is why that email address and phone number is so important as they may contact you during the decision making stage for clarification or further details/instructions.

Hope that helps!

How did you get to hear back from them? I've been trying for ages with no reply... the only email address I can find for them [email protected]
I don't get a reply to. Is there another email address or phone number?

kirstyp Apr 28th 2017 9:03 am

Re: Customs Form .. Transfer of Residence
 

Originally Posted by taramu (Post 12240249)
How did you get to hear back from them? I've been trying for ages with no reply... the only email address I can find for them [email protected]
I don't get a reply to. Is there another email address or phone number?

That was the email I used, it took a long time! Try this number that they list for more info, 0300 200 3700. Hope that helps!

Robbie2010 Apr 29th 2017 2:15 am

Re: Customs Form .. Transfer of Residence
 

Originally Posted by taramu (Post 12240249)
How did you get to hear back from them? I've been trying for ages with no reply... the only email address I can find for them [email protected]
I don't get a reply to. Is there another email address or phone number?

I never got a reply to e-mails either!
Tried phoning them and was on hold for 45 minutes before I gave up!

From ToR application to recieving approval took around 3 weeks ... don't know if that is normal or not.

mstiggiewinkle Apr 30th 2017 11:26 am

Re: Customs Form .. Transfer of Residence
 
I called them two or three days ago. Was on hold for less than 15 mins. Really nice woman. Pleasant and informative.

mstiggiewinkle Apr 30th 2017 11:29 am

Re: Customs Form .. Transfer of Residence
 

Originally Posted by durham_lad (Post 12218211)
I think you are reading too much into it. For the previous address I would simply check other. Loads of folks, such as students going over to study and/or work, and shipping personal belongings will be moving from a residence not owned or rented by themselves.

When we moved over in January the shipping company would only say 4 to 6 weeks so I picked a date towards the end of that timeframe. The address the goods were being shipped to was not yet owned by us and if something had delayed or stopped the purchase we would have had to divert the shipment to a storage facility. But you can't easily explain that on a form so I just gave the address we hoped we would own by the time the goods arrived.

Ditto.
I used "other" and a family address, and an approximate date for shipping.
When i spoke with HMRC i asked them to review my docs, and she said they had everything they needed.

cdfergus May 1st 2017 7:13 am

Re: Customs Form .. Transfer of Residence
 
kirstyp: can you explain this please?

If you’re not claiming a relief
The import declaration should be made to ‘free circulation’ if you’re not claiming a relief. Charges should be applied for all duties liable regardless of whether delivery is to the United Kingdom or elsewhere within the EU.
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I took it from the gov.uk site relating to ToR

Chris

princezxena May 3rd 2017 7:25 pm

Re: Customs Form .. Transfer of Residence
 
Hi All,

The number for NCH is 03000 588 454. They are open Mon-Fri 9 to 5 GMT.

I have called them today to check the status of my TOR approval. After a good long 30 min wait, spoken to a really patient guy named Mike and he stated they are at a 2 week backlog... so hopefully i will get my approval in time as my shipment arrives!

Cheers!

kirstyp May 3rd 2017 7:53 pm

Re: Customs Form .. Transfer of Residence
 

Originally Posted by cdfergus (Post 12242225)
kirstyp: can you explain this please?

If you’re not claiming a relief
The import declaration should be made to ‘free circulation’ if you’re not claiming a relief. Charges should be applied for all duties liable regardless of whether delivery is to the United Kingdom or elsewhere within the EU.
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I took it from the gov.uk site relating to ToR

Chris

If you aren't applying for / aren't eligible for transfer of residence (or any other) tax relief to request duty free entry of your household goods you declare under free circulation. HMRC will then assess the detailed list of your items and calculate any applicable duties that you will have to pay to import your goods. If you are doing this your removal company should talk you through the information you'll need to provide on that list.

bit more info here: https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_custom...circulation_en

cdfergus May 4th 2017 4:56 am

Re: Customs Form .. Transfer of Residence
 

Originally Posted by kirstyp (Post 12244324)
If you aren't applying for / aren't eligible for transfer of residence (or any other) tax relief to request duty free entry of your household goods you declare under free circulation. HMRC will then assess the detailed list of your items and calculate any applicable duties that you will have to pay to import your goods. If you are doing this your removal company should talk you through the information you'll need to provide on that list.

bit more info here: https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_custom...circulation_en


Thank you!

DomGH Jun 19th 2017 10:37 am

Re: Customs Form .. Transfer of Residence
 
I'm trying to complete these forms right now for our move back to the UK. Have a quick question which HMRC are not clear on. Can I ship everything under my name only (even though a lot of our stuff is my wife and daughter's). My wife is not from the EU (or the US) and won't have a visa until long after our shipment arrives.
I also wondered what people's experience with providing receipts was - we have about half of our stuff with receipts, but a lot of clothes, shoes, toys etc don't have them.....
thanks so much!

cdfergus Jun 20th 2017 12:17 pm

Re: Customs Form .. Transfer of Residence
 

Originally Posted by DomGH (Post 12276528)
I'm trying to complete these forms right now for our move back to the UK. Have a quick question which HMRC are not clear on. Can I ship everything under my name only (even though a lot of our stuff is my wife and daughter's). My wife is not from the EU (or the US) and won't have a visa until long after our shipment arrives.
I also wondered what people's experience with providing receipts was - we have about half of our stuff with receipts, but a lot of clothes, shoes, toys etc don't have them.....
thanks so much!

Hi, I am a UK citizen. I put all the information on the ToR under my name, they are combined goods. In addition I did not supply a single receipt; did not have any! I emailed the application May 22nd and got my approval and # yesterday :)

b813 Sep 12th 2017 11:07 pm

Re: Customs Form .. Transfer of Residence
 
Just a quick question guys, I'm a bit stuck on the question where it asks if "your belongings are for you to wear, furnish your room or use for the purpose of your studies?". We answer no as we are not going there to study, I then get a popup message saying "These goods aren't eligible for relief and should be declared to free circulation paying any taxes due.". Is this how this question should be answered?

Also, do you know if they are going to tax me on a 55" TV that is 2 years old?

Any help would be great!

durham_lad Sep 13th 2017 10:50 pm

Re: Customs Form .. Transfer of Residence
 

Originally Posted by b813 (Post 12337162)
Just a quick question guys, I'm a bit stuck on the question where it asks if "your belongings are for you to wear, furnish your room or use for the purpose of your studies?". We answer no as we are not going there to study, I then get a popup message saying "These goods aren't eligible for relief and should be declared to free circulation paying any taxes due.". Is this how this question should be answered?

Also, do you know if they are going to tax me on a 55" TV that is 2 years old?

Any help would be great!

It says "or for the purpose of your studies" not "will be for the purpose of your studies". So you answer "Yes" since you will be using your belongings for one or more of the other two options it gives.

They are not going to tax you on anything you have owned for 6 months or more before your move.


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