Originally Posted by Anthony919 (Post 7847038)

Production methods, technology, economic reform, investment and permitting a brain drain to take place.

The Pacific region countries have been walking all over the UK for decades now.

Britain is sad and pathetic because it lost its power & position in the world and didn't know what to do when that power started ebbing away.
People like to live in the past and hold onto the notion of what the country used to be like a long time ago, rather than what it is like now.

What is Britain like now?

A country full of parochial/impersonal/indifferent shop keepers, benefits scroungers, chavs, mums who drive 4 wheel drive vehicles (who don't know how to drive them) & which effectively turn them into road blocks, driving a single 5 yr old child 500 yds to a school, along with millions of others and who cause most of the traffic congestion in many British cities.

"Leaders" with no backbone or real ideas.

Schools are now more or less war zones, with teachers held in very low regard by parents and children (thanks to Labour) and who are sworn at, attacked and who no longer carry authority.

Neighbors who don't know/don't talk to each other, councils seeking to bleed every tiny bit of money from residents for things that should be provided through the ever rocketing and fraudulent system called "council tax", & also charging residents to park in front of their own homes.

Empty headed, vacuous and immoral minded people being held up as model men & women in every newspaper, magazine and on alleged television "programmes".
British society is obsessed with media, celebrity bollocks, denigrating, highly destructive and depressing soap operas, plus wall to wall football talk whatever station I tune into. :thumbdown:

The BBC is a terrible and destructive organization, a type of parasitic organization that exists nowhere else in the free world - maybe North Korea has a similar organization?

Minor colleges now being called universities.

There never seems to be any money for anything worthwhile, but plenty of money is being squandered on immoral purposes, "expenses" and sheer wastage on a daily annual basis for decades.

Parks and recreation places falling apart.
Graffiti is everywhere, some drug culture references being accepted as OK.
People have sex in clubs, bars and in school and this is not challenged.

Children seen as OK to be given mobile phones.

The 1993 murder of little Jamie Bulger marked a turning point in my mind of how sick and immoral British society had become.

All sorts of people are allowed to enter the country for any bullshit reason and with nothing asked of them in return and who are then willingly given lots of money and a home/car/phone and these same people then give the country the finger, attend demonstrations to try to bring down the country and also insist on wearing full face scarfs and other "garments" to cover up their faces because "its part of their religion" and because it "makes them free".

Britain is a country that is merely "used" now by many millions, rather than like being loved or liked and treating it with respect - but you can't get respect if you don't respect yourself first and Britain, through an acquiescent population, hasn't done that for decades.

Now I hear that they don't collect rubbish every week but every 2 weeks.
You know, much poorer countries collect everyone's rubbish and the streets are washed, every day.

Car owners, certainly in London, being treated as cash cows and almost like criminals for owning a vehicle.

There is a lot of money taken/stolen from people in one form or the other by the pathetic government, but there's nowt to show for it and the country is crap - so where's it all going then?

The biggest problem for me is that no-one really complains about all these things and so the population just grit they teeth while seething venom underneath.

And of course, the class system, which turns everyone against each other and erects walls & boundaries between one class and another and how we are all "subjects" and not citizens.

There's a lot wrong more with Britain but it that list enough for you?

Originally Posted by Anthony919 (Post 7847038)

but it that list enough for you?

Originally Posted by elfman (Post 7847043)

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Originally Posted by Anthony919 (Post 7847038)

Production methods, technology, economic reform, investment and permitting a brain drain to take place.

The Pacific region countries have been walking all over the UK for decades now.

Britain is sad and pathetic because it lost its power & position in the world and didn't know what to do when that power started ebbing away.
People like to live in the past and hold onto the notion of what the country used to be like a long time ago, rather than what it is like now.

What is Britain like now?

A country full of parochial/impersonal/indifferent shop keepers, benefits scroungers, chavs, mums who drive 4 wheel drive vehicles (who don't know how to drive them) & which effectively turn them into road blocks, driving a single 5 yr old child 500 yds to a school, along with millions of others and who cause most of the traffic congestion in many British cities.

"Leaders" with no backbone or real ideas.

Schools are now more or less war zones, with teachers held in very low regard by parents and children (thanks to Labour) and who are sworn at, attacked and who no longer carry authority.

Neighbors who don't know/don't talk to each other, councils seeking to bleed every tiny bit of money from residents for things that should be provided through the ever rocketing and fraudulent system called "council tax", & also charging residents to park in front of their own homes.

Empty headed, vacuous and immoral minded people being held up as model men & women in every newspaper, magazine and on alleged television "programmes".
British society is obsessed with media, celebrity bollocks, denigrating, highly destructive and depressing soap operas, plus wall to wall football talk whatever station I tune into. :thumbdown:

The BBC is a terrible and destructive organization, a type of parasitic organization that exists nowhere else in the free world - maybe North Korea has a similar organization?

Minor colleges now being called universities.

There never seems to be any money for anything worthwhile, but plenty of money is being squandered on immoral purposes, "expenses" and sheer wastage on a daily annual basis for decades.

Parks and recreation places falling apart.
Graffiti is everywhere, some drug culture references being accepted as OK.
People have sex in clubs, bars and in school and this is not challenged.

Children seen as OK to be given mobile phones.

The 1993 murder of little Jamie Bulger marked a turning point in my mind of how sick and immoral British society had become.

All sorts of people are allowed to enter the country for any bullshit reason and with nothing asked of them in return and who are then willingly given lots of money and a home/car/phone and these same people then give the country the finger, attend demonstrations to try to bring down the country and also insist on wearing full face scarfs and other "garments" to cover up their faces because "its part of their religion" and because it "makes them free".

Britain is a country that is merely "used" now by many millions, rather than like being loved or liked and treated with respect - but you can't get respect if you don't respect yourself first and Britain, through an acquiescent population, hasn't done that for decades.

Now I hear that they don't collect rubbish every week but every 2 weeks.
You know, much poorer countries collect everyone's rubbish and the streets are washed, every day.

Car owners, certainly in London, being treated as cash cows and almost like criminals for owning a vehicle.

There is a lot of money taken/stolen from people in one form or the other by the pathetic government, but there's nowt to show for it and the country is crap - so where's it all going then?

The biggest problem for me is that no-one really complains about all these things and so the population just grit they teeth while seething venom underneath.

And of course, the class system, which turns everyone against each other and erects walls & boundaries between one class and another and how we are all "subjects" and not citizens.

There's a lot wrong more with Britain but it that list enough for you?

Originally Posted by Englishtart (Post 7836419)

That line confused me too..how the hell did he get in if nobody voted him in? Maybe not him, but obviously the 'majority'.

It's the same here though, when I hear my friends complaining about Obama now, I just smile and say "You voted him in"!:p

Originally Posted by Anthony919 (Post 7847038)

Production methods, technology, economic reform, investment and permitting a brain drain to take place.

The Pacific region countries have been walking all over the UK for decades now.

Britain is sad and pathetic because it lost its power & position in the world and didn't know what to do when that power started ebbing away.
People like to live in the past and hold onto the notion of what the country used to be like a long time ago, rather than what it is like now.

What is Britain like now?

A country full of parochial/impersonal/indifferent shop keepers, benefits scroungers, chavs, mums who drive 4 wheel drive vehicles (who don't know how to drive them) & which effectively turn them into road blocks, driving a single 5 yr old child 500 yds to a school, along with millions of others and who cause most of the traffic congestion in many British cities.

"Leaders" with no backbone or real ideas.

Schools are now more or less war zones, with teachers held in very low regard by parents and children (thanks to Labour) and who are sworn at, attacked and who no longer carry authority.

Neighbors who don't know/don't talk to each other, councils seeking to bleed every tiny bit of money from residents for things that should be provided through the ever rocketing and fraudulent system called "council tax", & also charging residents to park in front of their own homes.

Empty headed, vacuous and immoral minded people being held up as model men & women in every newspaper, magazine and on alleged television "programmes".
British society is obsessed with media, celebrity bollocks, denigrating, highly destructive and depressing soap operas, plus wall to wall football talk whatever station I tune into. :thumbdown:

The BBC is a terrible and destructive organization, a type of parasitic organization that exists nowhere else in the free world - maybe North Korea has a similar organization?

Minor colleges now being called universities.

There never seems to be any money for anything worthwhile, but plenty of money is being squandered on immoral purposes, "expenses" and sheer wastage on a daily annual basis for decades.

Parks and recreation places falling apart.
Graffiti is everywhere, some drug culture references being accepted as OK.
People have sex in clubs, bars and in school and this is not challenged.

Children seen as OK to be given mobile phones.

The 1993 murder of little Jamie Bulger marked a turning point in my mind of how sick and immoral British society had become.

All sorts of people are allowed to enter the country for any bullshit reason and with nothing asked of them in return and who are then willingly given lots of money and a home/car/phone and these same people then give the country the finger, attend demonstrations to try to bring down the country and also insist on wearing full face scarfs and other "garments" to cover up their faces because "its part of their religion" and because it "makes them free".

Britain is a country that is merely "used" now by many millions, rather than like being loved or liked and treated with respect - but you can't get respect if you don't respect yourself first and Britain, through an acquiescent population, hasn't done that for decades.

Now I hear that they don't collect rubbish every week but every 2 weeks.
You know, much poorer countries collect everyone's rubbish and the streets are washed, every day.

Car owners, certainly in London, being treated as cash cows and almost like criminals for owning a vehicle.

There is a lot of money taken/stolen from people in one form or the other by the pathetic government, but there's nowt to show for it and the country is crap - so where's it all going then?

The biggest problem for me is that no-one really complains about all these things and so the population just grit they teeth while seething venom underneath.

And of course, the class system, which turns everyone against each other and erects walls & boundaries between one class and another and how we are all "subjects" and not citizens.

There's a lot wrong more with Britain but it that list enough for you?

Originally Posted by lella (Post 7847399)

Spot on !! Exactly how it is !!:thumbsup:

Originally Posted by tonrob (Post 7847576)

Stuck in Britain and bitter... :rolleyes: If half your posts just bitch and moan about the UK, you ain't going to get much love on a British Expats forum...

Originally Posted by lella (Post 7847587)

I was just like you when I was in America, deluded that life is perfect back in Britain. I am just more realistic now.

Originally Posted by teacosy (Post 7847131)

You do have to compare the present and previous president first before passing comment.
If you read the posts, it is those who have been out of the UK the longest who are returning.

Originally Posted by trailerdude (Post 7847079)

Been hanging around a while, but this load of cr@p persuaded me to actually register just so I could ask a question (Hello) ...... kind of doubt I'll get a serious answer, but I'll ask anyway....do you really think those attributes are representative of Britain today? And do you really think that the same couldn't be said of a lot of other countries too, including your current country of residence? Or maybe they dont have suvs here? Or cellphones? Or problems in schools? Or child murders? Or immigrants? Or questionable media? Or dodgy politicians? Flippin eck, your head really is quite a long way up your orifice isn't it?

Oops sorry, that was 9 questions (last one didn't count cos it was rhetorical...;))

Originally Posted by Anthony919 (Post 7846832)

Britain has been in decline for a long time and never recovered after the 2nd world war.
However, even without the war, the country never kept pace with the rest of the changes in the world and retained old and destructive attitudes.

Hence why it is a sad and pathetic state today.

Not being born there but growing up and spending most of my life there, I am very happy to see the back of it to be honest, as it was a miserable life for me.

While I like some things about the country and have some English habits/attitudes, as well as some of my all time fave TV progs being British (One foot in the Grave, Only Fools & Horses, Its a Knockout, etc), I won't return under any circumstances.

The USA, even though it may be a little foreign to some people, suits me so much better than Britain and I love it here, even though I don't like how they drive and you have to temper your discussions sometimes, because people here have guns.