Britain isn't that bad
#46
Re: Britain isn't that bad
Originally Posted by iaink
Not in isolation, but its a symptom. The only reasons I can see to pretend you are something / somewhere you arent is either if you have already been banned here as someone you are, or you are out to make trouble?
#47
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Re: Britain isn't that bad
Originally Posted by batty-x-ray
its complicated here, and i thought i was fairly clued up after finding MOH on the internet
OMG all that hassle being a troll...now that is sad
#48
Re: Britain isn't that bad
Originally Posted by TruBrit
OMG all that hassle being a troll...now that is sad
#49
Re: Britain isn't that bad
Originally Posted by ladyofthelake
The problem is, when Florida is mentioned people will imagine the beaches and the tourist areas that most people will see on TV or when they visit in person. What they don't see is where most people who live here spend the majority of their time. I went into Downtown Jacksonville today, the areas I passed through were not glamorous at all, in fact for the most part it looked pretty grim.
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Re: Britain isn't that bad
Originally Posted by wmoore
That's awful. There's no way I could do that. Career or not, my missus will always, always come first.
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Why we move
I think genetically we are hunter gatheres and as thus get bored with one place and are always seeking new pastures. It's a survival trait. I'm sure when the first modern humans started practasing agricuture etc they were as happy as could be but slowly as the years turned they longed for their nomadic lifestyles of yester year.
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Re: Britain isn't that bad
Originally Posted by mand8002
I think it depends on your experiences in the UK sometimes. As parents of a special needs child you get very angry at the way you have to fight for the correct education/support for your child when in our local area any child from a non english speaking background gets all the support they need. My child is deaf (with additional learning needs) and we go to the hospital and there is no interpreter there, but there is for the non english speaking. When you have paid taxes for years it feels like you are left out in the cold and all your money is being spent looking after others. This may seem a very blinkered view, but unless you have had to experience this then you wouldn't understand.
If a native Brit can't make it in the UK...thats because he/she is of limited capability.
I am sure that the hospital decides on who gets interpreters based on numbers-you try treating someone who can't speak English. The hospital would assume that a deaf child would be with his/her parents-and a deaf adult could communicate in writing.
The UK is a country not a charity! Its fair to give newcomers a bit of extra help-but if chavs that have been here for thousands of years can't make it-my suggestion-stop having kids.
#53
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Re: Britain isn't that bad
Originally Posted by Breezey
Get a grip! Do you think any other country caters more for the deaf. Stop blaming the UK, and this nonsense how migrants are being given everything.
If a native Brit can't make it in the UK...thats because he/she is of limited capability.
I am sure that the hospital decides on who gets interpreters based on numbers-you try treating someone who can't speak English. The hospital would assume that a deaf child would be with his/her parents-and a deaf adult could communicate in writing.
The UK is a country not a charity! Its fair to give newcomers a bit of extra help-but if chavs that have been here for thousands of years can't make it-my suggestion-stop having kids.
If a native Brit can't make it in the UK...thats because he/she is of limited capability.
I am sure that the hospital decides on who gets interpreters based on numbers-you try treating someone who can't speak English. The hospital would assume that a deaf child would be with his/her parents-and a deaf adult could communicate in writing.
The UK is a country not a charity! Its fair to give newcomers a bit of extra help-but if chavs that have been here for thousands of years can't make it-my suggestion-stop having kids.
Also, I hope that the comment of "chavs" was not aimed at Mand8002, I assume you have not met her in real life and unable to make that judgement.
Mand8002 was sharing her "personal" experiences/frustrations in the UK, from what I have read she has not assumed that anywhere else is any better or worse.
Chill
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Location: Lived in Vancouver BC, now back in England, and loving being back.
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Re: Britain isn't that bad
Originally Posted by wmoore
That's awful. There's no way I could do that. Career or not, my missus will always, always come first.
That is so nice to know, how lucky your wife must be. Thanks for the reply
PhillyD
#55
Re: Britain isn't that bad
Originally Posted by Breezey
Get a grip! Do you think any other country caters more for the deaf. Stop blaming the UK, and this nonsense how migrants are being given everything.
If a native Brit can't make it in the UK...thats because he/she is of limited capability.
I am sure that the hospital decides on who gets interpreters based on numbers-you try treating someone who can't speak English. The hospital would assume that a deaf child would be with his/her parents-and a deaf adult could communicate in writing.
The UK is a country not a charity! Its fair to give newcomers a bit of extra help-but if chavs that have been here for thousands of years can't make it-my suggestion-stop having kids.
If a native Brit can't make it in the UK...thats because he/she is of limited capability.
I am sure that the hospital decides on who gets interpreters based on numbers-you try treating someone who can't speak English. The hospital would assume that a deaf child would be with his/her parents-and a deaf adult could communicate in writing.
The UK is a country not a charity! Its fair to give newcomers a bit of extra help-but if chavs that have been here for thousands of years can't make it-my suggestion-stop having kids.
deaf and hard of hearing people and catered for at all well here, its certainly not understood, and other countries do cater better.
you assume that the hospital staff would bother writing things down, this also presumes that for a person who uses BSL that the grammar if this language is the same as English and so the Deaf person would understand the written word easily.
As for education when i go to any courses or study days i miss most of it because there is no induction loop to help me hear, i had no help at all with my hearing until i was forty.
soudns like you thingk daef people are chavs who cant make it
do you want to make your post clearer??
#56
Re: Britain isn't that bad
Originally Posted by Crispyuk88
It’s all because of the 'Grass is all always greener on the side' mentality. All of its influenced by TV, Magazines, not appreciating what you have fully & want-want-want attitude.
I've lived in the states coming on 3 years now... I still can't get over how some people still think it’s a 'better' place.
I've had mates and family over from the U.K for visits, they go back home thinking that it was great, and sure, they would move here in a heartbeat if they had that choice!
Thing is, they never experience LIFE here; they see the positive, fun bits of the country. They relate what a good time they had on holiday to how it would br if they moved here, and continued the 'holiday'.
When you move here, it finally sinks in that you're now not around you're family, but in-fact half way around the world. You get to see them maybe once every 2 years. Same applies with friends, usually worse so though. Some of your good friends you lose contact with, you only keep in touch with your really good friends.
Amongst that... You start to realize the foods crap (I did anyway + most of the family did to) so that’s another thing to add to 'crap list'. When your on holiday, you can blow it off if you don’t like it, stick with it for a couple weeks. Not when you live here. Then maybe you went a bit overboard with the money situation, yeah you have bigger and more material goods, but it’s not making everyone as happy as you imagined (Self included). Problems with Immigration seem to bugger up a lot of things. Doesn't feel like home at all, and your treated like a foreigner by the system; can't work, can't sign up for things with a lack of SS Number. Still after 2 years of living here people are still asking you the 'where are you from questions' that I'm frankly sick to death of! (Slightly anti-sociable now! )
I reckon that people think England’s bad because they live there (Slight Irony).
Take America; someone typically foreign and clueless thinks of the U.S, and the first thing(s) that pop into there head is:
California, New York, Florida – ‘Cause there’s only 5 states in the U.S
Celebrities, Fame, Glamour
Gigantic House with pools and all that other crap
Big Cars (Lots of them)
Having lots of money
Beaches etc etc...
Then you get the average American’s thoughts of England. They are thinking London, Big old fashioned mansion, expensive European cars etc etc...
How many people live those lives? On a relative scale, a definite few do, but the majority… not so much. I don’t think one can really interpret what life would be like if they were living somewhere other than where they were now. People always seem so optimistic about how there future will be if they had it there way. Optimistic is good, being realistic is BETTER and will help you more. The dream is always there, for the most of them it will only ever be a dream, a distant dream of how the other half live.
Only until that dream becomes a reality will they realize that although their house is bigger, their car nicer; a gust of wind might blow the house down. And the Ford they bought is always in the shop…
Only then do they want they’re tiny brick house back, and that Vauxhall Vectra they owned for 5 years that never broke down once!
Apologies for the Essay
Chris
I've lived in the states coming on 3 years now... I still can't get over how some people still think it’s a 'better' place.
I've had mates and family over from the U.K for visits, they go back home thinking that it was great, and sure, they would move here in a heartbeat if they had that choice!
Thing is, they never experience LIFE here; they see the positive, fun bits of the country. They relate what a good time they had on holiday to how it would br if they moved here, and continued the 'holiday'.
When you move here, it finally sinks in that you're now not around you're family, but in-fact half way around the world. You get to see them maybe once every 2 years. Same applies with friends, usually worse so though. Some of your good friends you lose contact with, you only keep in touch with your really good friends.
Amongst that... You start to realize the foods crap (I did anyway + most of the family did to) so that’s another thing to add to 'crap list'. When your on holiday, you can blow it off if you don’t like it, stick with it for a couple weeks. Not when you live here. Then maybe you went a bit overboard with the money situation, yeah you have bigger and more material goods, but it’s not making everyone as happy as you imagined (Self included). Problems with Immigration seem to bugger up a lot of things. Doesn't feel like home at all, and your treated like a foreigner by the system; can't work, can't sign up for things with a lack of SS Number. Still after 2 years of living here people are still asking you the 'where are you from questions' that I'm frankly sick to death of! (Slightly anti-sociable now! )
I reckon that people think England’s bad because they live there (Slight Irony).
Take America; someone typically foreign and clueless thinks of the U.S, and the first thing(s) that pop into there head is:
California, New York, Florida – ‘Cause there’s only 5 states in the U.S
Celebrities, Fame, Glamour
Gigantic House with pools and all that other crap
Big Cars (Lots of them)
Having lots of money
Beaches etc etc...
Then you get the average American’s thoughts of England. They are thinking London, Big old fashioned mansion, expensive European cars etc etc...
How many people live those lives? On a relative scale, a definite few do, but the majority… not so much. I don’t think one can really interpret what life would be like if they were living somewhere other than where they were now. People always seem so optimistic about how there future will be if they had it there way. Optimistic is good, being realistic is BETTER and will help you more. The dream is always there, for the most of them it will only ever be a dream, a distant dream of how the other half live.
Only until that dream becomes a reality will they realize that although their house is bigger, their car nicer; a gust of wind might blow the house down. And the Ford they bought is always in the shop…
Only then do they want they’re tiny brick house back, and that Vauxhall Vectra they owned for 5 years that never broke down once!
Apologies for the Essay
Chris
#57
Re: Britain isn't that bad
Originally Posted by sean trethewey
isnt it funny how the people who moan about people emigrating are the people who have made the move themselves ever thought you all might all be misserable poos and you will probobly be misserable wherever you go ive heard about cars houses and loads of other crap not everybodys nieve enough to think there moving to heven im cirtanly not im migrating for warm weather (and the humidity) lovely beaches rain forest (with the rain and bugs) good nightlife a generaly outdoor life style im cirtanly not moving for no crime perfect people and perfect life . lifes what you make it where ever you are maybe just maybe some people want what other countrys have to offer and are willing to work hard to make there lives happy and not just sit back moan and wait for life to get better.
#58
Re: Britain isn't that bad
Originally Posted by sean trethewey
isnt it funny how the people who moan about people emigrating are the people who have made the move themselves ever thought you all might all be misserable poos and you will probobly be misserable wherever you go ive heard about cars houses and loads of other crap not everybodys nieve enough to think there moving to heven im cirtanly not im migrating for warm weather (and the humidity) lovely beaches rain forest (with the rain and bugs) good nightlife a generaly outdoor life style im cirtanly not moving for no crime perfect people and perfect life . lifes what you make it where ever you are maybe just maybe some people want what other countrys have to offer and are willing to work hard to make there lives happy and not just sit back moan and wait for life to get better.
You really are not in the position to criticise anyone who has emigrated and not settled well, as you have not experienced it yourself. Even if you do make a success of your new life, you still don't have the right to criticise others opinions, as we are all different, and what may float your boat may not float someone elses.
PS You might want to try using the Spell Check before submitting anything next time.
#59
Re: Britain isn't that bad
Originally Posted by britvic
Well good for you being so positive, but and I mean but until you have actually done it, please dont judge.
#60
Re: Britain isn't that bad
Originally Posted by ladyofthelake
Looking back at your previous posts, it seems like the surf and beaches are a big priority of yours.
You really are not in the position to criticise anyone who has emigrated and not settled well, as you have not experienced it yourself. Even if you do make a success of your new life, you still don't have the right to criticise others opinions, as we are all different, and what may float your boat may not float someone elses.
PS You might want to try using the Spell Check before submitting anything next time.
You really are not in the position to criticise anyone who has emigrated and not settled well, as you have not experienced it yourself. Even if you do make a success of your new life, you still don't have the right to criticise others opinions, as we are all different, and what may float your boat may not float someone elses.
PS You might want to try using the Spell Check before submitting anything next time.