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In relation to the British media, you keep saying “the press” when you seem to be talking about “the red-tops.” I think the Duchess of Sussex is getting better treatment in the broadsheets, BBC etc than in (say) the Daily Express or the Daily Mail. |
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IMHO ............. Meghan Markle did not thoroughly check out the UK and differences between her experiences and way of living between the US, Canada and the UK. She's made errors by doing that.
But you do seem to be doing the checking that is required. :thumbsup: I'm from Lancashire, but we left the UK 10 days after we married in 1967, we've been in Canada since 1968. We made the moves without really researching where we were going to, but as OH had a job in each place, we knew we could live for at least 1 year and make decisions based on time spent as to whether we would want to stay. We were young enough to move on if necessary. We found "our place" in Canada, nave occasionally looked at moving both within Canada and to other countries (mainly Australia or NZ), but never back to the UK. We tended to visit back there every 5-7 years, and have not been back since 2008. Of course, it was still very rare to find centrally heated houses, business, theatres etc when we still lived there! I do agree though that it was the damp that was worse than anything |
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I’m a socialist, but I’m also an enthusiastic monarchist. I like the Duchess of Sussex and she’s done a brilliant job so far, in my opinion. I agree with you, she probably had a few unexpected lessons in how to negotiate her in-laws and British weirdness, but realistically, that’s the only way to do it - learn on the job! She just needs a few loyal people who will stick with her through thick & thin, she’ll be fine. I love BC, spent quite some time there back in - 1972? 1973? Was mostly in Victoria and Sydney, staying with a couple of different friends. |
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Originally Posted by robin1234
(Post 12747830)
In relation to the British media, you keep saying “the press” when you seem to be talking about “the red-tops.” I think the Duchess of Sussex is getting better treatment in the broadsheets, BBC etc than in (say) the Daily Express or the Daily Mail. |
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Originally Posted by UkWinds5353
(Post 12747789)
The level of pessimism by the press in my two months in the UK felt breath taking. And especially by the opinion driven type news outlets. So much of it was designed to change or control the viewers mind. I can certainly understand how many Brits could come to believe the sky is falling in their country if every day the running theme being fed to them and everyone else is so negative. And the general opinion is being repeated to a neighbor and co-worker. That is a lot to ignore. Poor Meghan Markle probably didn't understand any of this before she moved to the UK. And now the British press have put a Bull's eye on her back and everything she does. That is scary. That type of negative scrutiny by the press is powerful enough to convince the general public to get onboard with a manufactured campaign to like or dislike a individual. But I think a great many people in the public don't realize their mind is being made up for them, or at the very least influence by the press.
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Originally Posted by Jerseygirl
(Post 12749078)
Methinks you are underestimating the British public.
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Originally Posted by Jerseygirl
(Post 12749078)
Methinks you are underestimating the British public.
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Originally Posted by spouse of scouse
(Post 12749186)
I agree. I can only speak for 'my' part of the Wirral, and Liverpool, but the latest Brexit 'story' didn't really feature in the thinking of people I talked to at all. People voted and, while obviously interested in the final outcome, are happy in the interim to just get on with their lives. I'd guess that the majority of people in the UK are the same.
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Originally Posted by moneypenny20
(Post 12749204)
Without exception, all my English family and friends are unconcerned about life after that B thing and are pretty bored and done with the whole thing and have been since about six months after the vote. They also ignore the likes of the tabloid press because they know it's not real life in any way, shape or form.
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Originally Posted by Jerseygirl
(Post 12749078)
Methinks you are underestimating the British public.
But then I look at Brexit and Donald Trump and then I can't help but see how a great many people can be easily influenced to make the wrong decisions. And it's not that people can't be smarter and better decision makers but many in the general public are up against powerful forces that make it their purpose in life to feed false information to the public in hopes of confusing them. There are millions of people in the UK and America that believe Trump is a honorable patriot. That perception should tell us all we need to know. I've heard Brits say we need a Donald Trump. Scary. |
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Originally Posted by UkWinds5353
(Post 12749245)
Jersey, I would like to think so also. Maybe people in general are wiser and smarter than we credit them.
But then I look at Brexit and Donald Trump and then I can't help but see how a great many people can be easily influenced to make the wrong decisions. And it's not that people can't be smarter and better decision makers but many in the general public are up against powerful forces that make it their purpose in life to feed false information to the public in hopes of confusing them. There are millions of people in the UK and America that believe Trump is a honorable patriot. That perception should tell us all we need to know. I've heard Brits say we need a Donald Trump. Scary. |
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Originally Posted by Jerseygirl
(Post 12750226)
Don’t make the mistake of thinking Brits are like Americans. We are not. You are thinking like an American, and are trying to tell us how Brits think. Brits will not appreciate that.
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Originally Posted by Jerseygirl
(Post 12750226)
Don’t make the mistake of thinking Brits are like Americans. We are not. You are thinking like an American, and are trying to tell us how Brits think. Brits will not appreciate that.
I think everyone can see that. I think one of things Americans and Brits have in common at the moment is having put their selves in a very tough spot with questionable decision making. But my previous post didn't venture beyond that. Hopefully they will figure it out since so many people are going to be affected by the outcome of both Trump and Brexit. Especially many of us that will be relocating back to the UK which my family will be. |
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Originally Posted by UkWinds5353
(Post 12751049)
Americans and Brits come from two totally different cultures and countries. You now live in Canada and I'm sure you wouldn't believe all north Americans are the same?
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Originally Posted by spouse of scouse
(Post 12751199)
This response to what Jersey Girl said doesn't make any sense.
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Originally Posted by Jerseygirl
(Post 12751219)
Most of what he posts doesn’t make any sense. I don’t know what he’s on but I would sure like to try it. :lol:
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Rather than open up a whole new thread regarding my decision to leave the UK, I thought it relevant to post on this one because to my way of thinking, my decision to leave was in part down to the specific location that I/We had chosen to relocate to - Weymouth in Dorset. I did not think it expedient to reside in a place like Weymouth post a no-deal Brexit in particular because I felt that the locals were, as demonstrated TO ME, small-minded and xenophobic enough already without them getting into some sort of exaggerated blame game and all that might entail.
As I had said, I found it hard to find other like-minded individuals and this, I found isolating. I had mentioned that others in Location articles have also said of Dorset that in retirement it can be hard to find like-minded individuals. When I articulated all of this and the perceived impact of the media on general sentiment, the OP jumped to the conclusion that I had probably been out of the UK for too long and might therefore find it hard to assimilate into UK culture. At this, I decided not to post further, because to me this misses the point. Indeed there are elements of the changed UK cultural scene that to me are at best rather weird. Celebrity and Royals obsession, tattoo culture, dog/cat culture, underlying xenophobia, manners disappeared, general down-in-the-mouth demeanour...... HOWEVER, to me, the dreadful collapse of an overall inept and self-serving political class (even before we had a PM and Cabinet unfit for office), coupled with dreadful quality media almost across-the-board (in the main readership) and a BBC which has kind of lost its way in political discourse, as well as infiltration of social media with fake news, means that public opinion is very 'distorted' and these two issues together caused me to give up on the UK, in terms of residence there. You can't tell me that the media does not have a significant bearing on what people think - they have been bombarded with this nonsense for near four years now. There is no way the general public have simply switched off and are going on about their daily lives. They are, for instance, choosing Boris Johnson as a good guy and choosing to vote for the Brexit Party and then voting accordingly and at the same time they are lapping up the dreadful onslaught in the MSM against the Sussexes in particular. They might be utterly fed up but to a point they are still engaged. Sadly, as robin1234 has hinted, it is often better to read the NYTimes et al, looking at things from the outside, to get a better idea of what the underlying issues really are. The OP has seen the impact that latching onto individuals such as Donald Trump has had in the United States and let's face it the underlying trends being experienced in the US in terms of manipulation of 'personal' data and 'news' on social media (aside from big-time Russian interference) STARTED in the UK pre-referendum as a prelude to Trump's election. No question, general sentiment in the London area is totally different to what it appears to be deep in the provinces, which is why I indicated to the OP, when asked, that heading towards London might be a better idea because it is so much more diverse, even though it has its own problems as a direct result of extreme diversity on the 'indigenous' folks. I also indicated that, basically, the university cities of the South (don't really know about the North) might be a good choice. What I have read from the OP seems to indicate that he is conscious of all of this BUT doesn't want to offend anybody by being too specific as an American. However, the Trump-type mentality is alive and kicking in the UK, ably supported by the drone of the most-read media. In my opinion, this goes a long way towards explaining why IT'S THE ECONOMY STUPID simply does not apply, when workers seem happy to actually give up their jobs to achieve Brexit, and even a no-deal Brexit, because unless you read the Guardian (don't get me wrong - even the Guardian can be biased and has its faults) , you aren't going to get a proper reasoned explanation of what NO DEAL actually means for you as an individual in the UK, wherever that might be. There are certain places that I would rather not be when the penny finally drops that Johnson's 'deal' is actually essentially a no-deal outside of Northern Ireland, and that turkeys voted for what ended up being their Christmas. |
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Originally Posted by Pistolpete2
(Post 12751260)
Rather than open up a whole new thread regarding my decision to leave the UK, I thought it relevant to post on this one because to my way of thinking, my decision to leave was in part down to the specific location that I/We had chosen to relocate to - Weymouth in Dorset. I did not think it expedient to reside in a place like Weymouth post a no-deal Brexit in particular because I felt that the locals were, as demonstrated TO ME, small-minded and xenophobic enough already without them getting into some sort of exaggerated blame game and all that might entail.
As I had said, I found it hard to find other like-minded individuals and this, I found isolating. I had mentioned that others in Location articles have also said of Dorset that in retirement it can be hard to find like-minded individuals. When I articulated all of this and the perceived impact of the media on general sentiment, the OP jumped to the conclusion that I had probably been out of the UK for too long and might therefore find it hard to assimilate into UK culture. At this, I decided not to post further, because to me this misses the point. Indeed there are elements of the changed UK cultural scene that to me are at best rather weird. Celebrity and Royals obsession, tattoo culture, dog/cat culture, underlying xenophobia, manners disappeared, general down-in-the-mouth demeanour...... HOWEVER, to me, the dreadful collapse of an overall inept and self-serving political class (even before we had a PM and Cabinet unfit for office), coupled with dreadful quality media almost across-the-board (in the main readership) and a BBC which has kind of lost its way in political discourse, as well as infiltration of social media with fake news, means that public opinion is very 'distorted' and these two issues together caused me to give up on the UK, in terms of residence there. You can't tell me that the media does not have a significant bearing on what people think - they have been bombarded with this nonsense for near four years now. There is no way the general public have simply switched off and are going on about their daily lives. They are, for instance, choosing Boris Johnson as a good guy and choosing to vote for the Brexit Party and then voting accordingly and at the same time they are lapping up the dreadful onslaught in the MSM against the Sussexes in particular. They might be utterly fed up but to a point they are still engaged. Sadly, as robin1234 has hinted, it is often better to read the NYTimes et al, looking at things from the outside, to get a better idea of what the underlying issues really are. The OP has seen the impact that latching onto individuals such as Donald Trump has had in the United States and let's face it the underlying trends being experienced in the US in terms of manipulation of 'personal' data and 'news' on social media (aside from big-time Russian interference) STARTED in the UK pre-referendum as a prelude to Trump's election. No question, general sentiment in the London area is totally different to what it appears to be deep in the provinces, which is why I indicated to the OP, when asked, that heading towards London might be a better idea because it is so much more diverse, even though it has its own problems as a direct result of extreme diversity on the 'indigenous' folks. I also indicated that, basically, the university cities of the South (don't really know about the North) might be a good choice. What I have read from the OP seems to indicate that he is conscious of all of this BUT doesn't want to offend anybody by being too specific as an American. However, the Trump-type mentality is alive and kicking in the UK, ably supported by the drone of the most-read media. In my opinion, this goes a long way towards explaining why IT'S THE ECONOMY STUPID simply does not apply, when workers seem happy to actually give up their jobs to achieve Brexit, and even a no-deal Brexit, because unless you read the Guardian (don't get me wrong - even the Guardian can be biased and has its faults) , you aren't going to get a proper reasoned explanation of what NO DEAL actually means for you as an individual in the UK, wherever that might be. There are certain places that I would rather not be when the penny finally drops that Johnson's 'deal' is actually essentially a no-deal outside of Northern Ireland, and that turkeys voted for what ended up being their Christmas. There is no substitute for wisdom and you have it in abundance. Thank you for your contribution, for it's not only layered with the type of insight which pay close attention to what is happening in our micro world, but it also encompasses the greater macro impact we all must deal with. Not everyone can see beyond the trees to the entire forest, or make the effort to do so. Good on you! And yes even though I am married to a Brit and my kids are American British, I do censor myself in public forums so not to hurt anyone or even risk doing harm. Because the cultures are so different and there are times when a printed word can be taken so literal. There is no one American way of thinking(counter to anyone's mythical opinion) but what I make the effort to do is to encourage the acceptance of opposite perspectives that might enrich the over-all discussion. That is how we all can grow. You remind me so much of former posters that were frequent contributors to this site well over ten years ago. Like you they certainly added a wealth of life experience. And my apologies if I misunderstood previous postings. Living in the UK is going to be interesting. My wife and kids want me to become a British citizen but on that issue I am undecided. Time will tell. |
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Now that I'm a bit tired of the Portuguese language override here, I set up a VPN link to watch some UK programmes and saw this:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episod...e-perfect-town Ironic that a couple of my previously listed relocations are on it (Tunbridge Wells and Woodbridge). Lived for twelve years in Sevenoaks, so can vouch for its rural surroundings in the Green Belt, access to the Kentish Weald and also easy access to London stations. Did several audits in Arundel in my article clerk days and that area has a lot to commend it too. The premise of the programme is noble but the content mainly revolves around specific properties to meet the chosen relocating family's needs as they downshift from London, so it is less about the listed (market town) destination than one would hope for. That said, it is good for starters and - owning property in Tunbridge Wells - I was encouraged by how attractive it now appears to be for (younger in particular) incomers. ALL of the destinations in the series are worth serious consideration, though much quieter Abergavenny is the colour of a different horse BUT is worth a look for the open-country and food-loving types as the area has some rich pickings, in spite of the rainfall. Melton Mowbray might by a tad quiet too but there are those pork pies, and excellent local stilton. |
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Originally Posted by Pistolpete2
(Post 12752245)
Now that I'm a bit tired of the Portuguese language override here, I set up a VPN link to watch some UK programmes and saw this:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episod...e-perfect-town Ironic that a couple of my previously listed relocations are on it (Tunbridge Wells and Woodbridge). Lived for twelve years in Sevenoaks, so can vouch for its rural surroundings in the Green Belt, access to the Kentish Weald and also easy access to London stations. Did several audits in Arundel in my article clerk days and that area has a lot to commend it too. The premise of the programme is noble but the content mainly revolves around specific properties to meet the chosen relocating family's needs as they downshift from London, so it is less about the listed (market town) destination than one would hope for. That said, it is good for starters and - owning property in Tunbridge Wells - I was encouraged by how attractive it now appears to be for (younger in particular) incomers. ALL of the destinations in the series are worth serious consideration, though much quieter Abergavenny is the colour of a different horse BUT is worth a look for the open-country and food-loving types as the area has some rich pickings, in spite of the rainfall. Melton Mowbray might by a tad quiet too but there are those pork pies, and excellent local stilton. |
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Originally Posted by UkWinds5353
(Post 12752426)
Interesting look at possible places to call home. And a few of those places you mentioned we have seen on relocation publications. My wife does enjoy going out to discover new eateries so any area that is well balanced for various options including point's of interest, is probably going to be a popular choice for several expats moving to the UK. Do any of those options feel particularly welcoming for your future goals? There is nothing like a place that makes you feel content.
Would have to see how our plans to spend a bit of time in one place overseas and then a bit of time somewhere else overseas works first, particularly in the context of health insurance. With every passing day, the political situation in the UK seems to get worse and worse and some are thinking it could spill over - police protection of Cabinet figures is clearly necessary. Obviously we are concerned in general regarding the future for close family members who are still in the UK but there are no immediate plans to return. However, if we did, I think that we would have to try Tunbridge Wells for at least a while, if it can be scheduled. I already did a dummy run on it conceptually and it works in terms of us not needing a car and still being able to get out and about to the nicest spots, as I remember them, as well as getting the shopping done and easily getting to airports. As the BBC programme indicated, Tunbridge Wells has good access to open spaces within it or on the edge of it. For shorter stays, we would like to spend more time in Suffolk and Woodbridge could be part of that, if the price was right. We like Lavenham, which is a bit of a fuddy-duddy chocolate box type of place (the finest medieval town in England) but as retirees, there are plenty of decent pubs and eateries and it is close to Bury St Edmunds which is also an attractive market town. We haven't written Weymouth off for shorter stays as well as the broader West Country. My dad used to live near Melton, in the Wolds, but that area can be rather isolated, particularly when it snows or the roads are iced over. Arundel has character but it would be too expensive for us, as would Sevenoaks today. However, if I had the budget, I would at least look at both. When there was a Location Location Location thread on here, there were plenty who waxed lyrical about Knaresborough, in the North. Guildford? Haven't been there for ages, but the Merrow area was nice then. Nobody seems to talk about Guildford much on here. Same goes for Cranleigh and Dorking. NOT on the BBC list, but worth a look for grown-ups, are Tisbury in Wiltshire and Tetbury in Gloucestershire. The former on the current Times list of best places to live and the latter has been on a number of lists of best places to live, though probably also associated with the Prince of Wales fan-club - he lives there. |
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UKW, perhaps you should name your future British Mansion "Wynding Down". Or more accurately, "Wynding Up".
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Originally Posted by sid nv
(Post 12752455)
UKW, perhaps you should name your future British Mansion "Wynding Down". Or more accurately, "Wynding Up".
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Originally Posted by Pistolpete2
(Post 12752447)
One of the advantages of Sevenoaks is that it is close enough to London that you could actually spend the evening in the city, have dinner, go to the theatre and get home in just over half an hour from the London station (likely Charing Cross). Looking at train times for Berkhamsted, it's the same sort of time from a main London station (Euston) but the theatres and typical decent restaurants, being in the West End, are a bit further away. In Tunbridge Wells, the theatre (admittedly more modest) is at hand and there are plenty of decent restaurants to walk to.
Would have to see how our plans to spend a bit of time in one place overseas and then a bit of time somewhere else overseas works first, particularly in the context of health insurance. With every passing day, the political situation in the UK seems to get worse and worse and some are thinking it could spill over - police protection of Cabinet figures is clearly necessary. Obviously we are concerned in general regarding the future for close family members who are still in the UK but there are no immediate plans to return. However, if we did, I think that we would have to try Tunbridge Wells for at least a while, if it can be scheduled. I already did a dummy run on it conceptually and it works in terms of us not needing a car and still being able to get out and about to the nicest spots, as I remember them, as well as getting the shopping done and easily getting to airports. As the BBC programme indicated, Tunbridge Wells has good access to open spaces within it or on the edge of it. For shorter stays, we would like to spend more time in Suffolk and Woodbridge could be part of that, if the price was right. We like Lavenham, which is a bit of a fuddy-duddy chocolate box type of place (the finest medieval town in England) but as retirees, there are plenty of decent pubs and eateries and it is close to Bury St Edmunds which is also an attractive market town. We haven't written Weymouth off for shorter stays as well as the broader West Country. My dad used to live near Melton, in the Wolds, but that area can be rather isolated, particularly when it snows or the roads are iced over. Arundel has character but it would be too expensive for us, as would Sevenoaks today. However, if I had the budget, I would at least look at both. When there was a Location Location Location thread on here, there were plenty who waxed lyrical about Knaresborough, in the North. Guildford? Haven't been there for ages, but the Merrow area was nice then. Nobody seems to talk about Guildford much on here. Same goes for Cranleigh and Dorking. NOT on the BBC list, but worth a look for grown-ups, are Tisbury in Wiltshire and Tetbury in Gloucestershire. The former on the current Times list of best places to live and the latter has been on a number of lists of best places to live, though probably also associated with the Prince of Wales fan-club - he lives there. I like several of the places you mentioned and a few of which we actually visited over the summer while in the UK. And it's great there are options you do consider workable just in case if you later decide to give the UK another look. I don't blame you for wanting to check out multiple places. Life is too short to sit still and go with the flow. Better to get out there and discover fun and interesting locations to live. I remember the location location location thread. Was definitely one of the more popular places on this site. That kind of tells me you might be a Britishexpat OG like myself. Which country do you think you will land first? I think if the wife and kids weren't as excited about the move to the UK and we were still open to a move to Europe, then one of the Scandinavian nations might be our first pick. But I'm use to getting out voted in our family. |
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Originally Posted by sid nv
(Post 12752455)
UKW, perhaps you should name your future British Mansion "Wynding Down". Or more accurately, "Wynding Up".
So in that vein and in hopes of assimilating maybe if the wife will let me, the name of our UK place can be called Florida West:thumbup: We will substitute warm weather with trying to think warm in the winters. |
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Originally Posted by UkWinds5353
(Post 12754872)
Sorry didn't respond. Been out of town, off doing salt water fishing down in the Keys.
I like several of the places you mentioned and a few of which we actually visited over the summer while in the UK. And it's great there are options you do consider workable just in case if you later decide to give the UK another look. I don't blame you for wanting to check out multiple places. Life is too short to sit still and go with the flow. Better to get out there and discover fun and interesting locations to live. I remember the location location location thread. Was definitely one of the more popular places on this site. That kind of tells me you might be a Britishexpat OG like myself. Which country do you think you will land first? I think if the wife and kids weren't as excited about the move to the UK and we were still open to a move to Europe, then one of the Scandinavian nations might be our first pick. But I'm use to getting out voted in our family. I have a particular point of view, based upon my experiences in relocating to a particular part of the UK. This, when combined with my overall point of view regarding where the UK is now headed and what impact that might have on my overall family life (social and economic), caused me, in discussion with my wife, to make a decision to leave. Let's leave it at that. |
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Originally Posted by Pistolpete2
(Post 12755005)
I know you are the OP but I don't want to go into details regarding other places (other than the UK) on here. It doesn't go down well.
I have a particular point of view, based upon my experiences in relocating to a particular part of the UK. This, when combined with my overall point of view regarding where the UK is now headed and what impact that might have on my overall family life (social and economic), caused me, in discussion with my wife, to make a decision to leave. Let's leave it at that. You know the British culture so well. I'm still learning it despite being married to a Brit. But my wife moved to the States at a very young age and she is as much an American as a Brit. She sound British to me but her accent has been watered down to the point when she is in the UK people think she is American born. No matter where you move to, the UK is just over Younder. |
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We've been hearing about all the flooding in northern UK and it's terribly tragic. Our thoughts are with everyone in that area of the country. It made me wonder if this is something that happens more often than not in the north due to that region receiving far more rain. Or does this level of flooding happen in pretty much all over the UK given any particular year, but this instance just happened in Derbyshire? Has this occurred many times in Nottinghamshire and Sheffield?
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Originally Posted by UkWinds5353
(Post 12760953)
We've been hearing about all the flooding in northern UK and it's terribly tragic. Our thoughts are with everyone in that area of the country. It made me wonder if this is something that happens more often than not in the north due to that region receiving far more rain. Or does this level of flooding happen in pretty much all over the UK given any particular year, but this instance just happened in Derbyshire? Has this occurred many times in Nottinghamshire and Sheffield?
https://flood-warning-information.se...flood-risk/map |
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Originally Posted by robin1234
(Post 12760982)
This flood risk map is useful. Put in a post code, and you’ll get a detailed map of risk. https://flood-warning-information.se...flood-risk/map I can handle all types of weather phenomenon. Hurricanes, White Outs, but flooding can feel particularly shocking. Where the heck can you run in a flash flood. Being caught off guard in a vehicle only adds to the problem. |
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Originally Posted by UkWinds5353
(Post 12761055)
Yowser. Look like real flooding can occur in multiple regions of the UK but the canal areas are especially potential concerns.
I can handle all types of weather phenomenon. Hurricanes, White Outs, but flooding can feel particularly shocking. Where the heck can you run in a flash flood. Being caught off guard in a vehicle only adds to the problem. |
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Originally Posted by robin1234
(Post 12761065)
One point of the map is that flood-prone locations are predictable - so that’s good for those contemplating buying a home. I think the vast majority of the land area of the UK is low or zero risk. However, there are a number of towns and villages in river valleys that are potential death traps, due to the shape of the valley, where the houses are, and the nature of the stream or river - for instance, if it’s coming off a moorland area that can suffer massive rainfall in a short time. Two examples in SW England, Lynmouth in Devon and Boscastle in Cornwall. |
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Originally Posted by UkWinds5353
(Post 12760953)
We've been hearing about all the flooding in northern UK and it's terribly tragic. Our thoughts are with everyone in that area of the country. It made me wonder if this is something that happens more often than not in the north due to that region receiving far more rain. Or does this level of flooding happen in pretty much all over the UK given any particular year, but this instance just happened in Derbyshire? Has this occurred many times in Nottinghamshire and Sheffield?
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Originally Posted by UkWinds5353
(Post 12760953)
We've been hearing about all the flooding in northern UK and it's terribly tragic. Our thoughts are with everyone in that area of the country. It made me wonder if this is something that happens more often than not in the north due to that region receiving far more rain. Or does this level of flooding happen in pretty much all over the UK given any particular year, but this instance just happened in Derbyshire? Has this occurred many times in Nottinghamshire and Sheffield?
There are a couple of small towns and villagers that are known for flooding, but no, these large towns and cities are not regarded as being prone to it. |
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Originally Posted by jayandbill
(Post 12761158)
I lived most of my long life in Sussex, since 1940 until 2009 with a break of 15 years overseas in between and now in New Zealand. I never experienced serious flooding in England although there were many times when the river banks broke and the fields were underwater . The town of Lewes, which is on a river and is quite hilly had a bad flood at one point some years ago but generally I think Sussex is fairly low risk ( you can always run to the hills, or preferably drive, although it could get a bit crowded up there)
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Re: Best relocation areas in the UK?
Originally Posted by verystormy
(Post 12761179)
This event is extremely unusual. It was caused by a freak / extreme weather event in which a years rain fell in under 24 hours. There are a couple of small towns and villagers that are known for flooding, but no, these large towns and cities are not regarded as being prone to it. |
Re: Best relocation areas in the UK?
This is the new normal with regards to rainfall, we can’t get complacent on “freak” rain events.
Our infrastructure to deal with excessive rainfall (U.K. standard) is actually quite poor compared to the parts of the US that gets rain - our gulleys, gutters and waste water pipes are not built to deal with current and future rainfall. And maintenance of existing infrastructure is reliant on ever decreasing/austerity hit funding. Eg, a report in the investigation into flooding in Hull in 2007 revealed it was significantly worse than it should have been due to the failure of backup water pumping stations (poor maintenance). a lot of land in the U.K. is designated flood defences. Meadows, marshes and fields next to rivers and other water courses are natural sponges that take the excess water and release back over time. Some flooding is exacerbated by building on fields on flood plains, reducing nature’s capacity to deal with too much water and as a consequence we’re now getting flooding in places that have never flooded before. oh, and flooding risk is usually included as standard in mainstream U.K. insurance policies. The premiums may become unaffordable if you are deemed to live in a flood risk area though. |
Re: Best relocation areas in the UK?
Originally Posted by yellowroom
(Post 12762036)
This is the new normal with regards to rainfall, we can’t get complacent on “freak” rain events.
Our infrastructure to deal with excessive rainfall (U.K. standard) is actually quite poor compared to the parts of the US that gets rain - our gulleys, gutters and waste water pipes are not built to deal with current and future rainfall. And maintenance of existing infrastructure is reliant on ever decreasing/austerity hit funding. Eg, a report in the investigation into flooding in Hull in 2007 revealed it was significantly worse than it should have been due to the failure of backup water pumping stations (poor maintenance). a lot of land in the U.K. is designated flood defences. Meadows, marshes and fields next to rivers and other water courses are natural sponges that take the excess water and release back over time. Some flooding is exacerbated by building on fields on flood plains, reducing nature’s capacity to deal with too much water and as a consequence we’re now getting flooding in places that have never flooded before. oh, and flooding risk is usually included as standard in mainstream U.K. insurance policies. The premiums may become unaffordable if you are deemed to live in a flood risk area though. One thing we are a little concern about is picking a area where knife crime is very low and mostly because we have young male kids. As with most young people they like to socialize and go out to various places of interest. I wonder if the media has over blown the current issue regarding aggressive crime in the UK? And what do you think about these areas in terms of nightlife safety at pubs or clubs? And which are most and least safe? Liverpool Manchester Brighton Glasgow Edinburgh Oxford Reading Oxfordshire |
Re: Best relocation areas in the UK?
Brighton Beach? |
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