Beaverstate

Sounds like my part of the US. Just don't read the papers.

Pit Bull.

Where I live is lovely, but there's always really rough areas not far away and they tend to commit most of the crime on each other, especially the violent crime, which is usually related to drugs, I tried to set up a neighbourhood watch on our estate a few years back and when i contacted the police, they said there was less than 1% recorded crime in our area, so I didn't bother.

Beaverstate

Yes. A common response in many suburban areas, one part nearly crime free, another just a short distance away you need bars on your windows.

Bud the Wiser

We're getting into semantics again. Let's not go there.

I linked to a police report not a newspaper headline. Something Chris955 should have done instead of cherry picking favourable months to highlight his choice of location.

My 'beef' is about the lack of balance in this part of the forum and the way those who have had negative experiences about their return or link to articles, statistics etc. about the U.K. are shot down with one liners with no substance nor reasoned debate.

Homeiswheretheheartis

Exactly the same here, I live in Las Vegas. A couple of months ago there was a murder everyday for a week and there is at least one to two a week here. Being Las Vegas drugs and crime are here and many other crimes are commited everyday. There are areas of the city I wouldn't go out a night.

But where I live is clean and I have yet to see any type of crime, so when I talk about my experience you would think Las Vegas was the safest place ever. But I believe people are inteligent enough to know that there is more to Las Vegas that the area and life I live here.

Also, this forum actually counteracts the stats, Daily Mail and off the cuff negative comments (e.g US politicians NHS) that make out the UK to be a dangerous, dirty country full of chavs on the dole, where you will die if you use the NHS.

So when you say a balanced view of the country, I strongly believe that this forum contributes to that.

There are negative experiences put on here by people, but you will find that its quiet hard for that thread to keep going as the only thing most people can say is 'we are sorry and we hope things get better'.

Bud the Wiser

Occasionally that's true, but I could quite easily list a set of quotes that are ad hominem, including one of yours.

Homeiswheretheheartis

Bud I'm getting the impression you are a 'glass half empty' person rather that a 'glass half full' type

I only post my experiences and feeling on things, as I see them. I don't spend weeks thinking my post through. I would never intentionally lie and mis inform anyone.

You don't seem to get the peoples experiences are individual.

I can't be bothered to look through you old posts but everytime I read one of yours you aren't really giving any help or even asking a question, just pulling apart other peoples posts.

I'm beginning to think you are just a really good troll who likes to irritate people but not go to far as to p**s them off completely.

I apologise if your not.

Gosh I've just reread my post 3 times, trying to find something you will moan about, never done that before.

Bud the Wiser

Well, that's a first, being called a name and receiving an apology all in the same post.

You say I am not giving any help, yet you've started a really good thread on the NHS where you've acknowledged the need for a more balanced view. Perhaps by highlighting the need for different views to be given a fair hearing I've done my little bit to create that balance and an opportunity for those who had different experiences to be able to come forward and post without the fear of being chastised or, dare I say, being called a troll. This in turn would give readers a wider variety of experiences and opinions to evaluate.

feelbritish

I have found these posts here very balanced. I for one am using this forum to glean information before we return. I also find a lot of kindred spirits here

A lot of good information comes out of here and maybe it is where most of my information comes from, I see nothing wrong in that. If someone has a bad experience we say sorry and move on we do not dissect it to death which is what you seem to be doing with posts by Chris and others that are positive in their views only. Any change you are a Taurus?

Bud the Wiser

So you think it's okay for people who have a negative view about the UK to be called "arrogant self righteous knobs." ?

tsk! tsk!

Mummy in the foothills

Only if the only reason they are being negative is to wind people up, or to make themselves feel better about having moved from the UK, using the negative views to try to persuade others of how right they are and how wrong the rest of the world is for not agreeing with them.

feelbritish

NO not at all, and I never said that! I read the negative views as much as the positive ones because it is how those folks are experiencing Britain and we are all in different phases in our lives. For some of us, we had to live elsewhere which is also nice to realise that back home was not so bad. In a previous post I did say that I would not like to be on a very limited budget in England, (we plan to retire so will be on a fixed budget) then I would rather be here, but then that is also personal because limited to me may be wealthy to someone else. Everyones perspective of life is different and relates to that person.

Bud the Wiser

No, but Chris955 did.

I agree with the rest of your post.

Bud the Wiser

Two of the most prolific posters on this part of the forum are Sallysimmons and Chris955. Both are self-employed. Sally returned with the skill set to be able to transfer her business from the USA to the UK thus ensuring an income stream. Chris was fortunate enough to return with enough capital to be mortgage free, start his own business and buy a sit on lawnmower ( tickles me that ). Both live in very nice parts of the country. I am really pleased for them, I really am, as I am for anyone who has found happiness upon their return, whatever their circumstances.

However, I suspect that very few returnees can make it back in such favorable conditions, and whilst it’s nice to hear about beautiful countryside, country pubs and birds singing in the trees, it is just playing to what people want to hear, because most people need confirmation and reassurance that they are making the right decision to return. Hence people go all gushy and praise the positive posts and do exactly the opposite when less favorable opinions are presented.

Reality, of course, is a face slap, as those who have returned and are having a hard time will tell you. I am full of praise for those who are brave enough to post their difficulties, that takes courage. It’s so much easier to post away merrily when things are going well.

However, it’s not just about the negative posts from those who are having a difficult time. Far from it. It’s the head in the sand approach, the endless mantra, “ I don’t see it” or similar, not just regarding crime, but with the economy, the employment situation, the deficit, the strain on infrastructure and facilities, housing, pressures on the NHS, affordability, etc.

There’s more to moving back to the UK than singing the joys of a ploughman’s lunch and a pint of best bitter.

You know, this part of the forum is beginning to remind me of one of those silly high school movies where a group of girls, pretty but plastic, popular yet pretentious, gang up on anyone who dares to challenge their inner circle.

For now, I think I’ll sit back and watch the movie. Confident in the fact that those who are not in the clique will always attain the higher grades.

Pass the popcorn.

Grayling

....and you are starting to sound more and more like a troll.