drvr1

So what that you supported the war? Any way you are not doing any major combat.

All this for a little ident. information? Get over it.

Squirrel

How typically bloody arrogant! The UK kept the Nazis at bay by itself well before the US even thought about entering the war and Hitler had given up trying to invade Britain.

Knowing a typical American's view of history (just watch a few Hollywood films) it's not surprising that you think this way though.

Squirrel

No major combat? God you Americans do not deserve any help with your arrogant attitude. Do you not know we have lost a lot of our soldiers in Afganistan as well as Iraq, quite a few of them not from 'enemy fire' but shot by US troops.

crg

Ever hear of the Lend-Lease Act? We were sending you weapons before we entered the war.

crg

Buddy,

You pay the $6 when you fly as well. It's included in your airplane ticket. The $6 is used to cover the administrative costs of processing your I-94. Should the American tax payer have to foot the bill for your shopping trip?

News Flash: You are not a Canadian.

News Flash: Canadians who need an I-94 for going to school, working, and getting married also pay the $6 for the form.

If you don't like it, stay home. Oh, and thanks for your $6. Notice that you still paid it.

simbacat

The same as you did to Bin Laden then?

Squirrel

The fee will no doubt go up to pay for fingerprinting etc.

Squirrel

We paid for those weapons and the US made plenty of money out of us.

stevelisaw

Question for all of you who say no UK citizens poses any threat to the US (I agree the average honest one doesn't), and shame on the USA for trying to protect herself.

**From what country did the "Shoe Bomber" hold a passport?

***Answer:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/2514091.stm


This is the 21st century.....a few bad apples have spoilt the barrel for all of us and things will not go back to being as free as they were. People need to start to accept this, or don't, bury your heads in the sand and wait for the next disaster.

From what I understand you now have to have pictures on your driver's licences in the UK......this is a change from the way it use to be.....so does that mean you feel offended and now will refuse to drive......I think not.

Part of growing up is realising that things change.......and you either change with them, or become bitter, alone and miss out on things. I'm sure you can say you won't miss out on anything not coming here to the US, but I certainly cannot say that travelling anywhere other than my own country hasn't been a wonderful and learning experience. I found England enchanting, as well as France, Netherlands and Belgium. Mexico was also an experience......Canada....well what can I say they were every so friendly and enjoyed it throughly.

So for you to say stuff the US I won't miss it. Maybe you won't, but if your attitude spreads to others who've never been.....the natural beauty this country holds (I'm not talking the silly amusement parks) would be a shame to not be able to explore it, all for the sake of a new passport or fingerprints.


Lisa

Maniack

    >So in summary I will spend my dollars in Canada or somewhere else that
    >actually welcomes me and does not make me feel like I am a convicted
    >criminal!

Go for it. If you can't or don't want to accept any country's entry
requirement then we don't want or need you.


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Friends come and go, but enemies accumulate !!!

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Maniack

On Sun, 04 Apr 2004 23:43:49 +0100, [email protected] wrote:

    >Same old Same old ...... arrogant Yanks ....
    >yeah your right I wont be missed - neither will a whole lot of other
    >Brits who feel the same -...... a recent poll in The Times gave 83%
    >thought the US were acting hysterically and given the UK fought
    >alongside American troops in Iraq and lost soldiers as well - well
    >excuse silly us .... we thought we would have earned a little respect
    >- unlike the French and Germans who ran in the opposite direction.
    >Point is - the US has, in the minds of the UK public, shown exactly
    >what it thinks of the UK.
    >Id rather visit Canada in future - they don't have the almost Nazi
    >fanatical INS types growling in your face when you arrive with your
    >vacation suitcase!! - oh and that was a pre-9/11 experience at at
    >Boston in case you are wondering what I am talking about.

Good...stay the hell out. We hjave enough damn problems with the
idiotic mexicans.
    >On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 19:19:31 +0100, [email protected] wrote:
    >>Well - that is the USA off my holiday list ... I thought the UK - who
    >>went to war with America in case anyone forgot) had some sort of
    >>special relationship!!
    >>Obviously we are now filthy Europeans who need to be scrutinised by
    >>Iris and the likes and fingerprinted like criminals - ALL TOURISTS
    >>GUILTY until proven innocent!
    >>Well America - if ordinary Brits like me who supported the war in Iraq
    >>are now saying - **** OFF - then you really ought to take a good long
    >>hard look at yourselves.
    >>I admired Bush for a while - now I despise him and his administartion.
    >>So in summary I will spend my dollars in Canada or somewhere else that
    >>actually welcomes me and does not make me feel like I am a convicted
    >>criminal!



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L D Jones

LithiaSpgs wrote:
    >
    > It is not aimed at English citizens but we need to know who is coming into the
    > country and when they leave. It is only fair. It is not that big a deal and the
    > stuff is destroyed once you exit.

I have trouble believing that a government will destroy information it
has collected. They will probably save it just becausee they can

Bob Todd

    > You pay the $6 when you fly as well. It's
    > included in your airplane ticket. The $6 is used to cover the
    > administrative costs of processing your I-94. Should the American tax
    > payer have to foot the bill for your shopping trip?

The point is that the Canadians didn't need to fill out an I94 and I did,
the Canadians have not backed you up in Iraq but we have, are you following
me here?


    > News Flash: You
    > are not a Canadian.

Did I say I was, if you were paying attention you would realise this thread
is about treatment of UK vivitors. Hint: read the subject line.


    > News Flash: Canadians who need an I-94 for going
    > to school, working, and getting married also pay the $6 for the form.

I wasn't going to school, working or getting married.

    > If you don't like it, stay home. Oh, and thanks for your $6. Notice
    > that you still paid it.

So I should have refused and screwed it up for everyone, no thanks I'm
British, not selfish.

CharlieDLC

FIrst of all Hello - this is my first post.

I have read this thread with interest and there seems to be a little confusion.

The fact that you have to have have biometric ID doesnt really strike me as odd - thats the way it should be anyway.

The points that are missed are as follows:

1. EVERYONE in Britain who wishes to visit the US, be it disneyworld or visiting freinds or whatever has to apply for a visa and has to travel to the US embassy in London and be subjected to a full interview all at their own time and cost.

2. If the person was ever arrested for whatever reason they will just get knocked back. I dont mean charged - I mean arrested full stop - even if they did nothing or was simply held for questioning for something they had no involvement in.

3. If the visa gets denied they can NEVER visit the USA ever again. No matter what the circumstance. There is no way to appeal.

But the US will let mexicans in all day every day. The reason? Because somebody has to pick oranges for 2 bucks an hour.

The Patriot Act has shown some remarkably paranoid measures - and it seems the fact that we are the closest of allies and freinds means nothing to America - and this makes me very sad.

Some other quotes that I have read in this thread that I would like to give my 2 cents worth......

Not much to say but how obviousley uneducated and arrogant this person is.


Very true and that is exactley where we are right now. From October 2004 its pre-visa waiver time again.


So what you are saying that Britain IS interested in terrorizing the USA ? I'd also like to know how you came to the conclusion that Canada was the US's greatest trading partner.


Segragation is bad........remember ?


Sorry you have been watching too many movies. I could go into the real history of WWII but I doubt you'd listen. However your comments could easily make me say something uneducated (but just as true) like "If it wasn't for Britain you would still be living in Wig Wams"


We know. However what about the 100,000 who have died previousley in American funded conflicts. Thats what this entire 9/11 was about in the first place. I was in Boston and saw IRA support on the walls of an Irish bar - a bit like AL-Q support hanging on the walls of a British pub. The problem with the USA and terrorism is that you didn't even know what it was or even cared until it happened to you. Its been happeneing to Britain for 30 years. I'm not saying anybody is right or wrong on this dellicate issue - i'm saying that people need attitude adjustments on the subject.


This is the most shockingly arrogant and uneducated post ive seen yet. First of all who do you think did most of the reccies before your troops went in ? Of course you wouldnt know because you didnt see it on CNN. Your poorly trained GI's killed more Allied soldiers than Enemies - way to go. We fought and died TOGETHER moron - for you to say otherwise is a disgrace to your country and the others who support you. This was truly an anti-american comment.


Yep you exploited wars for dollars even way back then

We entered that war becuase our freinds and neighbours were in trouble. US entered becuase you were attacked - with no cares whatsoever about what was happening to your "freinds"

But that was history and imn proud of our partnership during WWII. I do always laugh when I see posts saying US won the war for Britain as I know im talking to a very poorly educated individual so it becomes fun to toy with them.

Anyway you probably dont care about this post but its been interesting reading what you all had to say on the subject. Anyone live near Alexandria VA btw ?

puppymalo

Its a real shame when you suddenly realise that something you once
believed in turns out to be nothing like you thought or remembered it
...

USA - once I believed it stood for freedom and truth

now - I realise a lot of its citizens are dumber than a truckload of
mules - there President (just like his father) is a sub-educated,
unitelligent criminal who will do anything to stay in power (or gain
it - remember Florida?).

and all the while the average US citizen wants, needs and does believe
that there country is doing 'the right thing' .. or perhaps they dont
give a shit so long as they are ok (guzzling up most of the world
gasoline and screw the enviroment and its blatant support of Israel
are two examples) .. yes a lot of people hate America because it IS SO
ARROGANT ....

I don't hate Americans - far from it - but I no longer support your
president or his policies - let's hope the next president is a saner
man and wants to work with other countries in the world.

I suppose the most telling thing is that around 2/3rds of Americans
dont even have passports - speaks volumes really!