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Originally posted by bondipom What is a typical Aussie? Most Australians I know cringe at the characteristics you describe. Maybe I am lucky with the crowd I hang out with. I have also witnessed those characteristics a disturbing amount in the UK. Just pick up a copy of the Sun, Mirror, Express or Daily Mail. Plenty of flag waving jingoistic crap there. But Aussies are very quick to use the term whinging Pom - which is used to dismiss and put down UK-sourced criticism of Oz. So, this thread is to show Aussies what it's like to be the target of negative, sweeping generalisations. And, as you can see, they don't like it. To repeat my earlier point; Aussies can dish it out, but they can't take it. |
Badge makes a particular effort
Nice post Mike.
I am going to make a particular effort with this one. I know I get flak for being 'positive' about something (which is clearly Australia), but surely this is better than some of the above posters who are showing complete disdain and hatred for Australia which is their right, but does not advance their argument in a forum. Your Shakespeare quote, maybe!! ;-) (I do not come on here and openly insult the UK - although there are aspects to life over there I don't find, at worst, 'congenial', if you will allow me.) Some of you may say, 'this is a returning to UK forum, we're allowed to', but some of you then come on to the Australia one and make similar noises. My offer would be 'laid back' (sorry! bit of a cliche, - but in the main true). Deeper experience may show otherwise, but it creates a good impression. A friend of mine has just received investment money from HSBC and made a visit here. He was very impressed with everyone he met. 'Wow they're so damn NICE'. Mike, I have got interested in your analysis and contributions. I have been thinking about this identity issue that has raised it's head. (I have a break from job hunting.) I would start a new thread, but I don't want to raise my head too far over the parapet ;-) Believe it or not, I don't always like being the centre of attention, I said that months ago. Some say that Australians have no history, or indeed, sense of identity. I was lucky to have an interesting lecturer at University who argued that there was no such thing as British culture, and outlined why it is there are so many issues with our image overseas. In a nutshell, he said that for all our years of experience, British culture was founded on 'negativity' - quite an emotive word on this forum! When we look at problems areas of society in all countries we see the marginalised, the ill-educated, the lacking in identity. But one thing I do see in Australia is this confidence. It may be immature, and misplaced, but at least it exists. Surely that is a good thing. I have had the good fortune of seeing young Australians and young English people working together in America on a summer camp, and it was very obvious that the English with thousands of years of history were finding it very hard to offer the same contribution that the Australians offered. What did the Australians offer - confidence, exuberance, friendliness, sporting ability, I tell you one thing they really won thr hearts and minds of the American kids. It was heart warming, and I was dismayed to see the English kids standing there as spectators. Many got drunk that night, and got fired, and I thought, (this was ten years ago) 'no sense of identity!'. It started my respect for Australia. I have seen the marginalised Australians, and whilst I feel their siutation is like any other with a similar background in the UK - I took heart with their enthusiasm and confidence, the X factor if you like. Please feel free to argue against me, but no insults. I've made an effort with this one, and invite thoughts. Incidentally, Mike, I have never heard the phrase 'whinging pom' anywhere in my vicinity. Seriously I have never heard it vocally. Maybe in the papers when the Rugby was on...I sometimes used it myself to give myself some stick. Most Australians I met and bonded with liked the fact I could be their 'equals' in the sporting and banter area. I think this is inherently why I did OK over here, I did give it back, on an equal footing, not as the underdog. ;-) Thanks in advance. cheers Badge "a serious post". |
Originally posted by Merlot You have a good crowd of friends. My Aussie mates are just lovely and a lot agree with the comments made on this site about their own kind! Where I live on the NSW Central Coast it is a rather sterotypical of the Australian's we are talking of. This is an oberservation and every one to their own. I am not "slagging anyone off". They all probably think that me & hubby being POM's are pretty weird. I say live and let live the life you want but I am allowed to have an opinion also. I think the point I know I am making is more my observations that make us different. As with UK newspapers, I'll give them a read when I get back. I was led to believe that Blighty has NO national pride, this will be interesting. Cheers for your views. Merlot :) I guess the Central Coast is not as cosmopolitain as the Eastern Suburbs. To me it is who you surround yourself with and most people I know like living in Australia and have holidayed or lived in Europe. I also find that I get on best with second generation migrants who may have not developed the traditions of the pre war descendants. Mike I did not miss the point of the thread I just want to advance it beyond a slagging off Aussies thread. |
oops...you wanted a put down...
how about 'total bastards" (as in....my best mate is a 'total bastard'). Badge |
Mike : you've just recently come in to my 'window'.
I get the impression that you quite 'liked' Australia, have got what you want out of it, and now want to return, or do you actively 'hate' Australia and can't wait to see the back of it? Badge |
dazuk
are you still in oz? |
Originally posted by Merlot Yep, all that ******* flag waving on Australia Day - we were about to vomit!!!!!:eek: Didn't Hitler have similar ideas ...... M:confused: A year later, I saw that my Aussie mates, had a weekend out at the island, and they got out a flag for 2 minutes, had a quick laugh, they couldn't give a stuff. It was only 5 because I insisted on taking a photo!! I said, are you going to say anything or sing anything, they said "nah". I was almost disappointed. Coming from a military background, I am used to showing respect for tradition and colours and flags - but these Aussies didn't. when England won the world cup, there was a fair bit of flag waving for that I recall. Badge |
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Originally posted by badgersmount Nice post Mike. I am going to make a particular effort with this one.. ;-) Thanks in advance. cheers Badge "a serious post". I didn't have any problems with that post - I don't agree with quite a few points, but that just reflects a difference in opinion to which we're both entitled :) And I disagree with your university lecturer! All countries have a culture - it's an amalgamation and shared history/experiences of its different races and religions. However, there is an argument that many countries' cultures are becoming increasingly homogenised - mainly due to US influence. In this sense, UK and Oz are similar. I have only heard the phrase "whinging pom" on this web site and in the media. Of course, it could be that I'm just becoming deaf ;) |
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Originally posted by MikeStanton Badge, I have only heard the phrase "whinging pom" on this web site and in the media. Of course, it could be that I'm just becoming deaf ;) BM |
Originally posted by dazuk I could not believe the over nationistic tones of the palce when I was there. Do they still show those big kev "stryla is the best country in the world" type ads?? |
Originally posted by badgersmount Mike : you've just recently come in to my 'window'. I get the impression that you quite 'liked' Australia, have got what you want out of it, and now want to return, or do you actively 'hate' Australia and can't wait to see the back of it? Badge I still like it. Like I said before, Oz has good and bad points. And after 12 years - for me - the bad outweigh the good. Hell, who knows, I may even retire here. Of course, by then, the average summer temperature will be in the late 40s, and I won't have to buy a cooker :) |
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Originally posted by aussie73 If you made these types of comments about Jews, Muslims or people from an African or Asian country you would be locked up for racial vilification. |
Originally posted by Megalania Cool Words For The Adjectivally Challenged Word Definition abbatial pertaining to abbots or an abbey abecedarian pertaining to the order of the alphabet; rudimentary abiectic of or pertaining to fir trees or fir sap ... |
Originally posted by Lany aussie 73 you are REALLY starting to p!ss me off.WOuld you ever just disappear cuz i doubt many on here really wanna listen to what you say. Hey everyone how about we send him to coventry?:) :) How about the Queensland Cultural Centre - nobody ever goes there!! |
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