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Old Feb 14th 2009, 2:46 pm
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Originally Posted by Hello.Kitty
Shops on the Plaza level of The Walk in JBR are actually closing down and/or emptying their stock. Not surprising at all, given the poor design and their stupid idea that "soft openings" actually work. Still, there are some high-street names that have pulled out.
One of my favourite restos had only 4 tables full when we went in on Thursday night...They're thinking of relocating to the ground floor, if that were possible...
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One of my favourite restos had only 4 tables full when we went in on Thursday night...They're thinking of relocating to the ground floor, if that were possible...
the not-so-weird thing is that the beach level of The Walk is booming. The poor Plaza level is just A Bad Design - not at all permeable, little access, no signage... it was on a hiding to nothing before it even started.
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Originally Posted by Hello.Kitty
the not-so-weird thing is that the beach level of The Walk is booming. The poor Plaza level is just A Bad Design - not at all permeable, little access, no signage... it was on a hiding to nothing before it even started.
Exactly...Not well promoted, noone knows what's up there, and who can be bothered to run 40 flights of stairs...
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Originally Posted by Hello.Kitty
the not-so-weird thing is that the beach level of The Walk is booming. The poor Plaza level is just A Bad Design - not at all permeable, little access, no signage... it was on a hiding to nothing before it even started.
signage is the real failure. solvable, but not implemented... morons....
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signage is the real failure. solvable, but not implemented... morons....
I suppose the management wants to ransom 1 million a year for a small A4 billboard...
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Originally Posted by Confucius
I suppose the management wants to ransom 1 million a year for a small A4 billboard...
there in lies the problem... charge then rents then charge to market and sit back and watch when the whole thing falls on its arse...

all malls here are a nightmare to market in... nevermind the outdoors exclusive Walk... message to malls and retailers - get back to what you are meant to do, i.e. sell goods for a profits and stop thinking you have ad space to sell only... twats... grrrrr.....
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there in lies the problem... charge then rents then charge to market and sit back and watch when the whole thing falls on its arse...

all malls here are a nightmare to market in... nevermind the outdoors exclusive Walk... message to malls and retailers - get back to what you are meant to do, i.e. sell goods for a profits and stop thinking you have ad space to sell only... twats... grrrrr.....
The mall business model here is what can be taken as the malls becoming partners to the retailers...But partners in profit only...
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Who did you fly to UK with for AED600 jammy? Return? Taxes included?

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Virgin, booked via the website.
Keep your eyes open on the specials, if the flight loading is low for any particluar days, they dump the price down
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Default Re: Todays signs of panic and collapse

Originally Posted by Jammy_Dodgers
Virgin, booked via the website.
Keep your eyes open on the specials, if the flight loading is low for any particluar days, they dump the price down
that sucks, i looked the other day and it's still £300 to fly out there. Hotels are only offering deals on 3-4 day breaks which is slightly weird as well
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JD, I assume as you say the bargains are dependant on the flight loadings being low, these bargain are real 'last minute' deals, I.e 24-48hrs before?

600aed to uk is great.I'd have to fork out another bundle to get up to gods country though
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Default Re: Todays signs of panic and collapse

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that sucks, i looked the other day and it's still £300 to fly out there. Hotels are only offering deals on 3-4 day breaks which is slightly weird as well
Still around 600GBP return from Glasgow to Dubai direct with emirates.

ive done the flight twice this year going back to gla, both times overbooked.

my girl is crew also and bids for glasgow a lot, each time has been more or less full.

The thing is, many of the people on the flight arent actually going to or coming from DXB (id say around 25%) most seem to be to/from Australia
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Default Re: Todays signs of panic and collapse

Originally Posted by Jammy_Dodgers
Let remember that the majority of its wealth was based on Real estate, fuelled by tourism.

Tourism seems to be dead.
I flew to the UK the other week and the flight cost me 600dhs.
Not only that, the plane was empty and i had my choice of row upon row of seats, so i pushed all the arm rests up and layed flat across four seats..bargain

I have flown out recently from both terminal 1 and 3...both are empty.

Eithad are currently emailing me offering "buy one flight..get one free"



I still think this place is going to get much worse before it stabilised
I don't know if its seasonal or the travel market is softening but Etihad staff are now getting staff specials for economy and business class. They were limited to economy only previously. The staff specialis are open to anyone but must be booked online by a member of a staff on their intranet.

However, as we are a captive market, prices are not coming down, it all depends on where you are flying from i.e. AUH - LHR - AUH - £568, LHR - AUH - LHR - £270 - early Feb' 09 travel. Just makes you feel great living in AD
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Default Re: Todays signs of panic and collapse

Originally Posted by Hello.Kitty
the not-so-weird thing is that the beach level of The Walk is booming. The poor Plaza level is just A Bad Design - not at all permeable, little access, no signage... it was on a hiding to nothing before it even started.
Indeed. The walk has a definite 'feel' of a stroll along a beach. The plaza level has very little passing footfall, no signage (but I doubt that'd help anyway), and a terrible atmosphere - it's not enjoyable to walk around the plaza level of JBR.
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Old Feb 15th 2009, 7:18 am
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Todays classics are......

Dubai records zero mortgage defaults - official
http://www.arabianbusiness.com/54674...lts---official

"No mortgage defaults have been recorded so far in Dubai despite the worsening global economic crisis, according to a senior official at the land department, it was reported on Sunday"

Surfers hope to share beach with swimmers
http://gulfnews.com/nation/Leisure/10285861.html
"Dubai: Surfers in Dubai are hoping a proposal to share a popular public beach with swimmers will be successful otherwise hitting the waves could cost them a Dh200 fine"
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Qatar sees huge hike in abandoned cars
http://britishexpats.com/forum/newre...te=1&p=7286416
"Doha has seen a 791 percent increase in the number of cars being abandoned on its streets and outskirts, it was reported on Sunday"
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