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typical May 9th 2008 7:29 am

Re: Moving to riyadh
 

Originally Posted by fefe76 (Post 6330414)
i dont see any totally western "white" ppl subjected to this kind of thing ...and i have traveled A LOT ....

You don't have many Irish friends, then. I still remember clearly getting stuck at a remote French / Swiss border crossing (under armed guard) while they checked out my Irish friend, ten years ago...

Inselaffen May 9th 2008 10:31 pm

Re: Moving to riyadh
 

Originally Posted by fefe76 (Post 6330414)
errr i am a muslim who was born and bred in the UK so unless u r a muslim who grew up in a majority non -muslim country u really have no idea...

my mother in law is an white australian of Czech-Scottish descent...yet whenever she travels she is subjected to "random" (my arse) searches and questions and is detained for hours on end....what? just coz she was married to a muslim and has a muslim surname!!! the same is of my husband....please ... i dont see any totally western "white" ppl subjected to this kind of thing ...and i have traveled A LOT ....they may have the same rights etc but wherever they can be persecuted they are ... in whatever manner...

thats the issue....everyone believes ppl of other religions have no issues in the country they live in.... that is just SO not true

ok so Saudi isnt perfect by far....but they have their laws etc and so be it...ppl come here knowing what they are like and what the laws are

its as simple as either u can hack it or u cant

and my best friend is Czech and married to a Pakistani Muslim with Pakistani surname. Neither of them have ever had any problems entering the UK.

as has been mentioned previoulsy Irish people had the same problem during the IRA days. Unfortunately the actions of a small minority in the British Muslim community have forced this situation. If British muslims hadn't bombed london there wouldn't be such tight security.

fefe76 May 10th 2008 4:13 am

Re: Moving to riyadh
 
Anyway some ppl have probs and some dont... i have never had any probs whatsoever and have lived in the UK for over 15 yrs without any negative experiences whatsoever....

but anyway the bottom line is that b4 going somewhere new one researches what its like...and ppl do come 2 KSA well aware of the laws and rules and limitations.

If you go somewhere ... u shud go with an open mind ... no where ...no country is perfect and ok Saudi is pretty far down on that list but shit hole its not...so they are a little backward and life can be different and difficult but ppl manage and get by

Chesney Hawkes May 10th 2008 10:45 pm

Re: Moving to riyadh
 

Originally Posted by Blue Cat (Post 6323110)
it still amazes me that people can move to another country that they nothing about !!! Riyadh is a shit hole. We have some members who are out there so hopefully they will enlighten you about life in KSA.

I am the one and only...

It still amazes me that people can be so blunt. Don't you realise people use this site to make decisions that can change the rest of their lives and you come out with a p*shy comments like that - have a bit more wit for goodness sake.

They are obviously trying to find out about the place before moving there. Some people don't have the chance to visit the place before moving and hence they come on here.

Don't get me wrong, you're entitled to your opinion but I just think when people are trying to make big decisions posts like yours don't make it any easier.

Bonny Boy May 10th 2008 11:08 pm

Re: Moving to riyadh
 

Originally Posted by Chesney Hawkes (Post 6335981)
It still amazes me that people can be so blunt. Don't you realise people use this site to make decisions that can change the rest of their lives and you come out with a p*shy comments like that - have a bit more wit for goodness sake.

They are obviously trying to find out about the place before moving there.

...But the OP has already accepted the job in KSA. So the point being made is that these questions should have been asked before that stage.

di_hb May 11th 2008 11:38 am

Re: Moving to riyadh
 
Thank you for the response and support Chesney..

I am looking for information about what other experiences are in SA. I can however understand the comment that I should have investigated all about the place before accepting a job. Guess thats the risk taker and adventure in me. This will be a major adventure, at least I will be able to say that I had a go and wont die wondering what it is like.

It has been really interesting reading the replies.
Thanks everyone




Originally Posted by Chesney Hawkes (Post 6335981)
I am the one and only...

It still amazes me that people can be so blunt. Don't you realise people use this site to make decisions that can change the rest of their lives and you come out with a p*shy comments like that - have a bit more wit for goodness sake.

They are obviously trying to find out about the place before moving there. Some people don't have the chance to visit the place before moving and hence they come on here.

Don't get me wrong, you're entitled to your opinion but I just think when people are trying to make big decisions posts like yours don't make it any easier.


nottmbantam May 11th 2008 4:00 pm

Re: Moving to riyadh
 

Originally Posted by Chesney Hawkes (Post 6335981)
I am the one and only...

It still amazes me that people can be so blunt. Don't you realise people use this site to make decisions that can change the rest of their lives and you come out with a p*shy comments like that - have a bit more wit for goodness sake.

They are obviously trying to find out about the place before moving there. Some people don't have the chance to visit the place before moving and hence they come on here.

Don't get me wrong, you're entitled to your opinion but I just think when people are trying to make big decisions posts like yours don't make it any easier.

A good point well made Chesney.

And whatever happened to your musical career? :blink:

lionheart May 11th 2008 4:41 pm

Re: Moving to riyadh
 

Originally Posted by Chesney Hawkes (Post 6335981)
I am the one and only...

It still amazes me that people can be so blunt. Don't you realise people use this site to make decisions that can change the rest of their lives and you come out with a p*shy comments like that - have a bit more wit for goodness sake.

They are obviously trying to find out about the place before moving there. Some people don't have the chance to visit the place before moving and hence they come on here.

Don't get me wrong, you're entitled to your opinion but I just think when people are trying to make big decisions posts like yours don't make it any easier.

If people use this site to make decisions that can change the rest of their lives, God help them. Lighten up CH, people ask for our opinions and that is all they get. We are not here to persuade newbies into either coming or staying away. Those decisions should be made elsewhere.

hoofie2002 May 11th 2008 6:06 pm

Re: Moving to riyadh
 

Originally Posted by fefe76 (Post 6327412)
If you are looking for a new experience, some good money and are willing to accept Saudi for what it is and how it is then good on u ... come and i hope u enjoy it

The difference between the UK and Saudi is in the UK I am unlikely to face two car loads of men armed with automatic weapons and explosives whose primary motivation is to murder myself and my family just because we are perceived to be of the wrong religion and are therefore marked for death.

And before you jump down my throat, yes I have lived in Saudi Arabia for a number of years - I got out before the real fun started. And yes, I have read the Koran and understand the difference between the vast Muslim Ummah and those fanatics who murder in the name of Allah. The cold, hard fact is that if you are a fair skinned non-muslim, you and your family are considered by a sizeable minority in that country to be dead meat.

The Saudi authorities have the lid on things at the moment but it's always below the surface waiting to go off. My pious muslim friends who live in various countries believe the same thing and personally wouldn't go there unless for Haj or Umrah when their [relative] safety is assured.

The sad thing is, Arab hospitality, custom and religion in it's purest form is an experience not to be forgotten - I have fond memories of my time in SA and those of us who live in Western Societies could learn much from that part of the world - but my first paragraph indicates why I will currently not go there and would advise anyone else not to.

lionheart May 11th 2008 7:09 pm

Re: Moving to riyadh
 

Originally Posted by hoofie2002 (Post 6338376)
The difference between the UK and Saudi is in the UK I am unlikely to face two car loads of men armed with automatic weapons and explosives whose primary motivation is to murder myself and my family just because we are perceived to be of the wrong religion and are therefore marked for death.

Are you not confusing KSA with Somalia? You have an equal chance of getting blown up by terrorists living in Mainland Europe in my view, but I do agree that living in a completely muslim fundamentalist state is not ideal

shiva May 11th 2008 11:03 pm

Re: Moving to riyadh
 
anothe reason saudi is shit is because nobody answers the bllody phone....ever.....wankers :curse:

Chesney Hawkes May 12th 2008 12:23 am

Re: Moving to riyadh
 

Originally Posted by nottmbantam (Post 6338204)
A good point well made Chesney.

And whatever happened to your musical career? :blink:

Ain't nobody i'd rather be....

Don't worry the music career is just on hold, my second one hit wonder will be hitting the shelves soon...:p

fefe76 May 12th 2008 12:26 am

Re: Moving to riyadh
 

anothe reason saudi is shit is because nobody answers the bllody phone....ever.....wankers
:lol:

try living in Pakistan then....haha maybe i have just lived in some places that are probably as bad or nearly as bad as KSA so i am immune to the crap or i just am able to tune it out better

i still say there are a heck of a lot of ppl in saudi who like it and have been living here for a long time and have no issues so i suppose its all up to what kinda person u r

pauldxb May 12th 2008 4:21 am

Re: Moving to riyadh
 

Originally Posted by di_hb (Post 6323015)
Hi
I have accepted a new position in Riyadh and will be moving over in Augsut. Unfortunately I do not know much about the place.
I would love to hear from people who live there.
What is it like?
How much does it cost to live there if housing is paid for?
I have heard that there is a great expat population. Is there much to do?
I probably will have more questions as time goes on...
Looking forward to hearing from you
Regards
D

Dont do it not KSA :thumbdown: (Sorry to offend but thats my opinion)


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