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Old Nov 19th 2007, 1:23 pm
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I've been asked to provide a fake cert of qualification to my visa company to do my saudi visa! Its because my job title is from government list but doesnt match the role i will do. Anyone else had this before? And should I do it? Without it the visa wont happen.

Also can someone point me to a good website to do fake certs.

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Originally Posted by maranelloman
I've been asked to provide a fake cert of qualification to my visa company to do my saudi visa! Its because my job title is from government list but doesnt match the role i will do. Anyone else had this before? And should I do it? Without it the visa wont happen.

Also can someone point me to a good website to do fake certs.

Thanks.
Wouldn't know - just some cautionary advice:

Shouldn't your employer be sorting out this problem. Otherwise, let them request this in writing asking you to provide a "fake certificate" for visa purposes. The risk I see is that you provide the cert, visa processed, then if you have problems with your employer sometime in the future then they could easily create problems for you by proving that you "duped" them with a false cert to gain employment... Take care!
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Old Nov 19th 2007, 1:47 pm
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Wouldn't know - just some cautionary advice:

Shouldn't your employer be sorting out this problem. Otherwise, let them request this in writing asking you to provide a "fake certificate" for visa purposes. The risk I see is that you provide the cert, visa processed, then if you have problems with your employer sometime in the future then they could easily create problems for you by proving that you "duped" them with a false cert to gain employment... Take care!
That is precisely my worry. Its such a risk since I am relocating my family there with me. I am told that it is not an issue and its only to get the visa approved. I know the rules have changed a lot since I was last there.
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Originally Posted by maranelloman
That is precisely my worry. Its such a risk since I am relocating my family there with me. I am told that it is not an issue and its only to get the visa approved. I know the rules have changed a lot since I was last there.
In that case let your sponsor/employer provide you with an indemnity and a letter of awareness.
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Having been thru the process of getting Saudi residency visas a few times, do not submit fake certificates - you will get found out.

All qualification certificated have to be certified by a variety of sources usually the Foreign & Commonwealth office, a Solicitor and usually the Authority that actually issued the original certificate

Any good visa agent should be fully aware of this procedure.

Getting a Single or Multiple Business visit visa shouldn't require presentation of certificates
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Originally Posted by SaudiExpat
Having been thru the process of getting Saudi residency visas a few times, do not submit fake certificates - you will get found out.

All qualification certificated have to be certified by a variety of sources usually the Foreign & Commonwealth office, a Solicitor and usually the Authority that actually issued the original certificate

Any good visa agent should be fully aware of this procedure.

Getting a Single or Multiple Business visit visa shouldn't require presentation of certificates
You have a PM.
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whatever happens just cover your own arse... as indie girl said, if a company needs to get rid of people they'll find reasons to hold them to ransom... just don't give them that opportunity
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Thanks guys. Had a long chat with someone in the visa company. He thinks I can apply for the job based on my current qualifications, so we are gonna submit it with my real certificates.

I'll keep you all posted as its all happening next week.
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Originally Posted by maranelloman
Thanks guys. Had a long chat with someone in the visa company. He thinks I can apply for the job based on my current qualifications, so we are gonna submit it with my real certificates.

I'll keep you all posted as its all happening next week.
excellent...fake certs sound way too dodgy...good luck

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Originally Posted by maranelloman
That is precisely my worry. Its such a risk since I am relocating my family there with me. I am told that it is not an issue and its only to get the visa approved. I know the rules have changed a lot since I was last there.
Better not do it...This is the Saudi govt you're dealing with...People's hands get chopped off for stealing...Your passport will be shredded if you're caught with a fake certificate...
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Better not do it...This is the Saudi govt you're dealing with...People's hands get chopped off for stealing...Your passport will be shredded if you're caught with a fake certificate...
in shred shred square.......
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in shred shred square.......
You got that right...
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in shred shred square.......
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Looks quite a nice shady spot, CC Square...

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Originally Posted by maranelloman
Thanks guys. Had a long chat with someone in the visa company. He thinks I can apply for the job based on my current qualifications, so we are gonna submit it with my real certificates.

I'll keep you all posted as its all happening next week.
Just thought I would update you all on what happened. My passport was submitted yesterday with my real certificates etc. Although the match wasnt perfect to the job title on the Conrtact, we though this would cause a problem. I spoke to my visa agents this evening and they have the Passport back with visa stamped.

Thanks for the ealier advice as im really glad i didnt go down the path of making any fake certs. Jeddah here we come!
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