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Zannie Oct 16th 2007 2:51 am

Re: Enough to survive?
 

Originally Posted by lionheart (Post 5430292)
I know plenty of people earning much less than AED 22K who live quite nicely...

So do I!

There are hundreds of apartments to choose from and now it's betting to the stage that you can negotiate quite hard on the rents (especially in Jumeriah Beach Residence etc). Although, you will need any potential employer to pay school fees as they are expensive here and will zap a lot of your monthly income if you don't. Also if you can get a job where your rent is paid, that will be a huge bonus, however, not many companies now offer that allowance (maybe only a percentage, like we get). Also make sure you get good family medical insurance included in in your employment package.

We have a good life out here. I've didn't work until recently (I work part-time to fit in with my family and we've been here two and a half years). DH earns a decent salary, however, it's incredibly easy to fall into the debt trap here. As long as you live within your means and don't try to 'keep up with the Jones' (unless you have the cash to do so!! :)), you'll be fine.

Zannie Oct 16th 2007 2:56 am

Re: Enough to survive?
 

Originally Posted by JACKPOP (Post 5430581)
Working in Garhoud, and not sure about the idea of a long commute - want to see something of my kids!

Mirdiff will be an ideal area for you to live. It's near Garhoud (that's where I work and most of my colleagues live in Mirdiff). One of them has just secured a 3 bed villa there for 80K per annum!! Although villas at these prices don't come along very often!! But I know a few people who pay between 120-130k pa for a decent villa there.

Confucius Oct 16th 2007 4:30 am

Re: Enough to survive?
 

Originally Posted by JACKPOP (Post 5429262)
I've had a decent look through the forum but still none the wiser. Any honest help very much appreciated. My question...

Is a monthly salary of AED 22k enough to survive on for a family (one child of school age)? The salary does not include rent.

We're looking for a change of scene, and are not too bothered about putting money away. But could we make ends meet on this salary, assuming my wife doesn't work? We'd need a 2-bed apartment.

Thanks!

Let me give you the lowdown on living in SHJ and commuting to Garhoud:
2-2.5 hours of commute everyday (about 1 hr each way)...One lucky day per week that you get to your destination within 30 minutes...
This is if you live in Nahda or AlKhan/Taawon areas that are close to Dubai...
Costwise:
You will live in a 2BR apartment - 5,500/month
Utility fees (phone/internet/SEWA/Evision) - 1,300/month
Groceries (Carrefour/Spinneys) for 3 pax - 1,500/month
2 cars - 3,500/month (bank installments)
2 cars petrol/maintenace/insurance,etc - 2,000/month
Schooling - 2,500/month (You're British,life is expensive...I pay 1,500/month for my cost centre)
Boozing (youre still English,the pub is your second home) - 1,000/month
Clothing (You're English,but you still wear clothes and look like a gentleman) - 1,000/month for the entire family
Dining out (Your wife will leave you if you don't) - 1,000/month
That's 19,300AED per month...
So unless I forgot something, you'll live a good life...(He already said he's not bothered to save...So he wants to live life to the full,ie the "Lebanese" way...)

IndieG Oct 16th 2007 5:11 am

Re: Enough to survive?
 
lol Conf, you're posts are actually informative these days- you feeling ok?!

Confucius Oct 16th 2007 5:14 am

Re: Enough to survive?
 

Originally Posted by IndieGirl (Post 5432502)
lol Conf, you're posts are actually informative these days- you feeling ok?!

I don't know what came over me...Must be the new glue...I changed brands...

JACKPOP Oct 16th 2007 5:33 am

Re: Enough to survive?
 
Thanks once again for the replies - very helpful indeed (just what I needed). I'm going to go away and do a bit more research, then no doubt I'll be back shortly with more questions.

Being able to live near where I'd be working (Garhoud/Mirdiff) is appealing. What are these places like to live in?

beebee Oct 16th 2007 6:06 am

Re: Enough to survive?
 

Originally Posted by JACKPOP (Post 5432575)
Thanks once again for the replies - very helpful indeed (just what I needed). I'm going to go away and do a bit more research, then no doubt I'll be back shortly with more questions.

Being able to live near where I'd be working (Garhoud/Mirdiff) is appealing. What are these places like to live in?

Mirdif is up and coming.. rental prices are rising fast. Please remember that you have to pay a year upfront on the rent of a place here...

Confucius Oct 16th 2007 6:11 am

Re: Enough to survive?
 

Originally Posted by beebee (Post 5432689)
Mirdif is up and coming.. rental prices are rising fast. Please remember that you have to pay a year upfront on the rent of a place here...

In contrast to 4 cheques as is the norm in Sharjah...

beebee Oct 16th 2007 6:14 am

Re: Enough to survive?
 

Originally Posted by Confucius (Post 5432700)
In contrast to 4 cheques as is the norm in Sharjah...

I will be your neighbour soon...

Confucius Oct 16th 2007 6:24 am

Re: Enough to survive?
 

Originally Posted by beebee (Post 5432716)
I will be your neighbour soon...

Sharjah bound?

beebee Oct 16th 2007 6:34 am

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Originally Posted by Confucius (Post 5432748)
Sharjah bound?

why not?

Confucius Oct 16th 2007 6:37 am

Re: Enough to survive?
 

Originally Posted by beebee (Post 5432779)
why not?

I'm not saying anything...I'm moving to Abu Dhabi...The Federal Decree was passed five minutes ago...

beebee Oct 16th 2007 6:46 am

Re: Enough to survive?
 

Originally Posted by Confucius (Post 5432791)
I'm not saying anything...I'm moving to Abu Dhabi...The Federal Decree was passed five minutes ago...

lucky I'm off back to the U.K then

jvr20 Oct 16th 2007 4:58 pm

Re: Enough to survive?
 

Originally Posted by Confucius (Post 5432791)
I'm not saying anything...I'm moving to Abu Dhabi...The Federal Decree was passed five minutes ago...

i had no idea you were also a Shj man conf...

MataHari Oct 16th 2007 6:05 pm

Re: Enough to survive?
 

Originally Posted by jvr20 (Post 5434645)
i had no idea you were also a Shj man conf...

he's that creepy guy in your elevator last night...think about it


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