Dubai: No degree, no chance?
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Dubai: No degree, no chance?
Just wondering if it's even worth trying to head out to Dubai to live/work with no degree, especially for IT work?
I have many years experience in the IT trade but no real qualifications (I fluked my way in the door and worked from there). I also heard Dubai is a 'not what you know, who you know' place.
Does anyone have any tips or advice on IT work in Dubai? My girlfriend and I are looking at Dubai as a second option if we cannot get work in the Cayman Islands.
Thanks!
I have many years experience in the IT trade but no real qualifications (I fluked my way in the door and worked from there). I also heard Dubai is a 'not what you know, who you know' place.
Does anyone have any tips or advice on IT work in Dubai? My girlfriend and I are looking at Dubai as a second option if we cannot get work in the Cayman Islands.
Thanks!
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Re: Dubai: No degree, no chance?
Just wondering if it's even worth trying to head out to Dubai to live/work with no degree, especially for IT work?
I have many years experience in the IT trade but no real qualifications (I fluked my way in the door and worked from there). I also heard Dubai is a 'not what you know, who you know' place.
Does anyone have any tips or advice on IT work in Dubai? My girlfriend and I are looking at Dubai as a second option if we cannot get work in the Cayman Islands.
Thanks!
I have many years experience in the IT trade but no real qualifications (I fluked my way in the door and worked from there). I also heard Dubai is a 'not what you know, who you know' place.
Does anyone have any tips or advice on IT work in Dubai? My girlfriend and I are looking at Dubai as a second option if we cannot get work in the Cayman Islands.
Thanks!
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Re: Dubai: No degree, no chance?
Just wondering if it's even worth trying to head out to Dubai to live/work with no degree, especially for IT work?
I have many years experience in the IT trade but no real qualifications (I fluked my way in the door and worked from there). I also heard Dubai is a 'not what you know, who you know' place.
Does anyone have any tips or advice on IT work in Dubai? My girlfriend and I are looking at Dubai as a second option if we cannot get work in the Cayman Islands.
Thanks!
I have many years experience in the IT trade but no real qualifications (I fluked my way in the door and worked from there). I also heard Dubai is a 'not what you know, who you know' place.
Does anyone have any tips or advice on IT work in Dubai? My girlfriend and I are looking at Dubai as a second option if we cannot get work in the Cayman Islands.
Thanks!
I work in a Freezone and our staff (psychologists) have not had to produce qualifications for visa purposes. Not sure what the IT industry is like but it will probably depend on the company. I think you would have to be lucky to get a good job in IT here without the qualifications to back it up - could be wrong. But there are a lot of people from the sub continent that will work for a fraction of what you would so unless you are very high up the chain, I would recommned the Cayman Islands.
That said, you could spec your CV to some agencies and see how it goes.
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Re: Dubai: No degree, no chance?
Just wondering if it's even worth trying to head out to Dubai to live/work with no degree, especially for IT work?
I have many years experience in the IT trade but no real qualifications (I fluked my way in the door and worked from there). I also heard Dubai is a 'not what you know, who you know' place.
Does anyone have any tips or advice on IT work in Dubai? My girlfriend and I are looking at Dubai as a second option if we cannot get work in the Cayman Islands.
Thanks!
I have many years experience in the IT trade but no real qualifications (I fluked my way in the door and worked from there). I also heard Dubai is a 'not what you know, who you know' place.
Does anyone have any tips or advice on IT work in Dubai? My girlfriend and I are looking at Dubai as a second option if we cannot get work in the Cayman Islands.
Thanks!
I work with two guys who don't have degrees, but are very experienced and get residency OK (we're in the freezone).
It's a lot easier if you have contacts. You'll also be up against other people often from the sub-continent who (on paper) would put Bill Gates to shame. In reality (from my experience), they generally don't live up to their CVs, but will accept a fraction of what you would likely expect.
I don't want to sound pessimistic, but I think you'll struggle.
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Excellent! So true. The amount of CVs that land on my desk that show highly qualified people are a joke. Generally after a few mins on the phone, you realise that there must be some great agency out there writing CV's for people.
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Seen some classic examples that have kept us amused in the office after speaking to the candidates.
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Re: Dubai: No degree, no chance?
Isn't there supposed to be a system now whereby the authenticity of your degree has to be confirmed before you're given a work permit?
But NorthernLad is right, inside free zones degrees aren't an issue, and even outside free zones experience matters most. If a company wants to hire you it will, regardless of whether or not you have a degree. I don't (I dropped out of uni to get a job), but I do have a lot of experience, and that's what matters in my industry (television).
As has been said, though, IT is a difficult one, simply because there are so many people from the subcontinent who have (genuine) qualifications up to their eyeballs and who will do the job for a fraction of the salary a Westerner will expect. There *are* Westerners working in IT here, but they tend to be very senior management.
But NorthernLad is right, inside free zones degrees aren't an issue, and even outside free zones experience matters most. If a company wants to hire you it will, regardless of whether or not you have a degree. I don't (I dropped out of uni to get a job), but I do have a lot of experience, and that's what matters in my industry (television).
As has been said, though, IT is a difficult one, simply because there are so many people from the subcontinent who have (genuine) qualifications up to their eyeballs and who will do the job for a fraction of the salary a Westerner will expect. There *are* Westerners working in IT here, but they tend to be very senior management.
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Re: Dubai: No degree, no chance?
Much appreciate all of the posts and advice above. Perhaps it would be better to concentrate on the Cayman Islands for now!
Could somebody define the 'freezone' to me please, that's a new one on me. Thanks.
Could somebody define the 'freezone' to me please, that's a new one on me. Thanks.
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Re: Dubai: No degree, no chance?
I work in a Freezone and our staff (psychologists) have not had to produce qualifications for visa purposes. Not sure what the IT industry is like but it will probably depend on the company. I think you would have to be lucky to get a good job in IT here without the qualifications to back it up - could be wrong. But there are a lot of people from the sub continent that will work for a fraction of what you would so unless you are very high up the chain, I would recommned the Cayman Islands.
That said, you could spec your CV to some agencies and see how it goes.
That said, you could spec your CV to some agencies and see how it goes.
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Re: Dubai: No degree, no chance?
Depends on what area of IT.
I work with two guys who don't have degrees, but are very experienced and get residency OK (we're in the freezone).
It's a lot easier if you have contacts. You'll also be up against other people often from the sub-continent who (on paper) would put Bill Gates to shame. In reality (from my experience), they generally don't live up to their CVs, but will accept a fraction of what you would likely expect.
I don't want to sound pessimistic, but I think you'll struggle.
I work with two guys who don't have degrees, but are very experienced and get residency OK (we're in the freezone).
It's a lot easier if you have contacts. You'll also be up against other people often from the sub-continent who (on paper) would put Bill Gates to shame. In reality (from my experience), they generally don't live up to their CVs, but will accept a fraction of what you would likely expect.
I don't want to sound pessimistic, but I think you'll struggle.