Originally Posted by DXBtoDOH (Post 11914254)

What I'm about to say is just my own perspective on the design aesthetics of American cars. They're for fat people. Too big. The interiors are too soft and plush and filled with cheap plastic and cup holders for the American's favourite Big Gulp. I'm sure you can point out the exception but that's what I think of when I see American cars. Fat people waddling and driving 25m when they could walk instead. I guess that's my bias and it's no worse than you thinking of wankers when you see a Prado or Pajero :rofl:

Originally Posted by DXBtoDOH (Post 11914254)

Perhaps your experience was the exception? I don't doubt there are decently made American cars just as there are poorly made Asian cars, but I base the statement on not just my own experience but what many people have shared with me over the years. And there's a pretty broad consensus on one thing, especially if you're a UAE car owner:

Want reliable and inexpensive to operate and maintain with good resale? Buy Asian. More specifically, buy Japanese. They have fantastic reliability and maintenance reputations and that doesn't come from nothing.

You're likely correct that American cars have greatly improved in the last decade and are now comparable to a number of Japanese cars in terms of reliability, out here in the UAE the downside is that the cost of maintenance and servicing tends to be quite high, which makes them a headache if you just want a reliable car to get from point A to point B.

What I'm about to say is just my own perspective on the design aesthetics of American cars. They're for fat people. Too big. The interiors are too soft and plush and filled with cheap plastic and cup holders for the American's favourite Big Gulp. I'm sure you can point out the exception but that's what I think of when I see American cars. Fat people waddling and driving 25m when they could walk instead. I guess that's my bias and it's no worse than you thinking of wankers when you see a Prado or Pajero :rofl:

Originally Posted by mission (Post 11914270)

I couldn't agree more - I can't stand American cars (just like I can't stand Americans).....American cars are just blah, like seriously blah.....for me personally I much prefer German cars.


I am not very up on 4x4/SUV's but if you are looking for a good, decent sports car, then I know my stuff

Originally Posted by TGFKASE (Post 11914289)

Out of interest, mission, what decent sports car would you recommend???

Originally Posted by mission (Post 11914328)

any of the M series - (beemer) - other than the M 1 series- that's like having the poor man's version of the Porsche ie the boxster - IF I ever made some serious moola, I'd get the M6.


Of course you have your Ferraris & Lamborghinis, but those are for the major ballers. However, for me the Aston Martin is way more classy and chic than a Ferrari.


Golf R is an awesome run around - my previous car was an R, and I was going to upgrade it to the new R, but then decided to get the M235i, which I absolutely love....bigger engine, more BHP, and much sexier looking :p


Audi has recently brought out the RS3 (not sure if it is available in the UAE yet), which in my personal opinion is probably on par with the M3. Of course you have the other RS ranges, which are all pretty sleek. Also not forgetting the ultimate sports car in the Audi range the R8.


for the serious players you have your Bugatti & Mclaren


to name but a few

Originally Posted by TGFKASE (Post 11914273)

Boring, basic... There just isn't anything to light you up..

And, yes, the cup holders are big, but I don't hold that against them...

Originally Posted by mission (Post 11914328)

any of the M series - (beemer) - other than the M 1 series- that's like having the poor man's version of the Porsche ie the boxster - IF I ever made some serious moola, I'd get the M6.


Of course you have your Ferraris & Lamborghinis, but those are for the major ballers. However, for me the Aston Martin is way more classy and chic than a Ferrari.


Golf R is an awesome run around - my previous car was an R, and I was going to upgrade it to the new R, but then decided to get the M235i, which I absolutely love....bigger engine, more BHP, and much sexier looking :p


Audi has recently brought out the RS3 (not sure if it is available in the UAE yet), which in my personal opinion is probably on par with the M3. Of course you have the other RS ranges, which are all pretty sleek. Also not forgetting the ultimate sports car in the Audi range the R8.


for the serious players you have your Bugatti & Mclaren


to name but a few

Originally Posted by DXBtoDOH (Post 11914343)

You call Jap cars boring and you defend American cars? They're equally boring in my mind. Fortuner or Prado versus the Durango or Explorer? What's the diff in terms of aesthetics? What makes one more interesting than the other?

Then you have all these gawdawful American sedans. You think the Camry is boring next to the Taurus?

Even the trucks aren't exciting to me. Big and obnoxious. Americans have the F-whatever on the road, the Japs have the Land Cruisers. Same same.

Originally Posted by TGFKASE (Post 11914510)

What is it about the current crop of Bored members, that feel the need to un-contextualize quotes to make a point...

I never mentioned Yank sedans...

In fact, I never mentioned the F-word ever....

Run along. Im sure you will learn to love your PoS Prado again... Just click your heels 3 times and dream of your safe place...

Being a Prado driver, Im thinking your safe place is doing 80 in the fast lane on SZR, never indicating just to prove how strong you are....

Originally Posted by DXBtoDOH (Post 11914542)

You mean as boring as the PoS Prado driver who cut me off at 145km the other day?

Nope. Sorry, mate. Drive a boring Nissan Tiida rental. 13th monthly rental contract now and still haven't bothered to look at new cars.

In past life I have owned an Audi, a Pajero, a Golf. Driven a Volvo and Honda as well.

Conclusion: all same same. Car to get from point A to point B. Anything else is merely self-justification. Makes you happy? Go for it. But don't make yourself a fool mocking perfectly reliable and sensible cars.

Originally Posted by TGFKASE (Post 11914506)

Ok, maybe I should have been more specific...

If you wanted a 4 dr sports car, which would you go for...

TBH, mission, that is probably the most unimaginative list of 'decent sports cars' I have seen, and VERY Euro-centric...

No LFA, Orochi (sp?).. Or we could go old-school.. I repo'd enough Evo's, 3000GT's, NSX's and GT-R's in my time...

Lets forget Asia...

SRT do anything for you, Shelby wet your whistle... Or are you a little hipster, Tesla maybe...

Each to their own, and if you limit your sights to the horizon set for you by AutoExpress or its ilk, then I'd probably have the same list as you...

But, next time, let the men talk cars...

Originally Posted by TGFKASE (Post 11914169)

Ah yes, the Pajero...

Can never see myself driving a Mitsubishi 'Wanker'........

Originally Posted by mission (Post 11914328)

Golf R is an awesome run around - my previous car was an R, and I was going to upgrade it to the new R, but then decided to get the M235i, which I absolutely love....bigger engine, more BHP, and much sexier looking :p

Originally Posted by DXBtoDOH (Post 11914542)

Conclusion: all same same. Car to get from point A to point B. Anything else is merely self-justification. Makes you happy? Go for it. But don't make yourself a fool mocking perfectly reliable and sensible cars.