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Old Aug 3rd 2010, 6:22 am
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I have a few questions and please excuse if they are a bit technical, I am an IT consultant / geek and cannot help it!

All this talk about Blackberry is due to the fact that your Blackberry gets its "emails" pushed to it via the RIM servers. The blackberry does not contact servers directly, it always uses RIM as the middle-man.

Now many companies in the UAE use e-mail servers in Europe or America. These also use HTTPS or encrypted data channels to get the data. What about these situations? What about if you wish to look at your banking website and are using a SSL HTTPS website?

I guess the difference could be that it is possible to monitor HTTPS streams given the right hardware, but that would cost a huuuuuuuuge amount of money in advanced firewall equipment. I know how much these firewalls cost becuase i sell them!

Anyways any thoughts? I bet many people here are using servers in Europe with support given from their Head Office - a lot of IT support comes from outside as from my experience decent IT support can sometimes be hard to find here.

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And anyone using a VPN is of course acting completely opaquely to any would be snoopers.
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HTTPS is not used for every sites and does not prevent some sites from being blocked.
The real issue is probably for browsing and instant messaging. as far as I'm aware RIM is the only company which encrypts every piece of data leaving your phone.

And as far as huge amount of money is concerned, I don't think it's too much of an issue here.
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All these letters and numbers talking to each other..is it an IT/geek thing???

"g18c" "csdf" "emt14"
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Etisalat to offer free iphones.... hilarious....

http://blogs.thenational.ae/beep_bee...bscribers.html
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Originally Posted by Patsy Stoned
All these letters and numbers talking to each other..is it an IT/geek thing???

"g18c" "csdf" "emt14"
I've always used csdf as a handle - it's both my initials (non-geek reason) and easily and quickly typed with one hand (geek-reason).
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Etisalat to offer free iphones.... hilarious....

http://blogs.thenational.ae/beep_bee...bscribers.html

Now if someone were to rob the warehouse that Etishs1te is storing its 500,000 surplus out of date phones they will probably allow us to continue with BB - it is totally laughable!!!
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I guess the difference could be that it is possible to monitor HTTPS streams given the right hardware, but that would cost a huuuuuuuuge amount of money in advanced firewall equipment. I know how much these firewalls cost becuase i sell them!

Anyways any thoughts?

traceroute a few times to europe/us and look at the last 1 to 2 ip's just before you leave the uae also look at how long the packets hang around in those hops!

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Shiva, was looking for the 'Like' button to comment on your post, but forgot i wasnt on facebook
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Originally Posted by Patsy Stoned
All these letters and numbers talking to each other..is it an IT/geek thing???

"g18c" "csdf" "emt14"
UNIX users are just as bad; here's how they view sex:

# unzip ; strip ; touch ; finger ; mount ; fsck ; more ; yes ; unmount ; sleep
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A possible solution to the Blackberry block has been announced...

http://www.newsbiscuit.com/2010/08/0...-a-tiny-burqa/
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Originally Posted by Autonomy
A possible solution to the Blackberry block has been announced...

http://www.newsbiscuit.com/2010/08/0...-a-tiny-burqa/
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Originally Posted by MacScot
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Originally Posted by g18c
Now many companies in the UAE use e-mail servers in Europe or America. These also use HTTPS or encrypted data channels to get the data. What about these situations? What about if you wish to look at your banking website and are using a SSL HTTPS website?
It is not that hard to set up a MITM attack on SSL.
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