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Quite likely Aramco will see it the same way

My company ask for payslips or other proof of salary globally (including the UK), that said its not always to price match. In my part of the business we also see it as an insight into integrity, if a candidate has lied about their current salary the hiring stops.

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They will definitely see it that way because everyone is replaceable. I’ve never been asked for a pay slip so I’m not going to start offering them up unless they tell me what the reason is for that request.

Interesting plot twist… after telling them they can do what they like in terms of rescinding the offer via email, I’ve received an email saying they would like to talk over the phone to see what can be done.

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If that's set you off on one, wait till you get to the Kingdom.

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Why? What kind of madness would one be in for?

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I am sure others will be along to comment on the 'madness' soon. I will say straight away that I don't know anything about Aramco - I mean its work culture, benefits etc. I can speak to other companies in Saudi though. There are things that are quite different - for example the request for pay slips. There are often longer working days as well, no work from home culture etc - generally. One specific thing that I want to mention though is that, certainly in our experience, there is very little job security as a western expat. My husband has had a number of colleagues, who moved over with their families being told there is no job for them following re-organisations. Of course it depends on the companies but it is perhaps something to consider - particularly if you have a family, school age kids etc. We have moved a lot and our kids are older so it is fine for us. You seem perfectly happy to stay in the job you have. Unless you have a desire to see a very different place, I would really suggest a lot of thought before you leave it. Good luck with whatever you/they decide

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Thank you. I will think about it. I was going to pull out because of the payslip issue but they said they can make things work without them and offer me my requested package. I’ve accepted a role at IBM in the UK as the Saudi one will take about 6 months to complete. I’ve got up to 5 weeks to think about it and that’s when they’ll issue a formal offer.

Thank you.

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Just as an aside..My first offer in Saudi was 5x what I earned net in the UK, after they had seen my salary slips. The company in question operated with salary bands, so everyone got offered similar packages.

As I mentioned in previous responses, data protection/privacy isn't so much a concern here. And can confirm, Saudi working life is madness. Probably best to stay put if that isn't acceptable.

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Cheers. We had a chat yesterday and they understand now why they can't be handed to them given where I work and releasing it to a foreign entity is not allowed.

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Okay, here's the story: This is 100% legitimate with all PIF or government companies in Saudi. They just need proof of your current salary. I've even seen all my friends being asked to provide either a pay slip or a salary certificate showing their total compensation package. The reason for this is that unfortunately, many people are inflating their current pay to seek higher offers. That's why they'll request your pay slip or salary certificate to verify it. It's the same if you apply for a bank loan – they'll ask for your salary certificate. What Aramco will do is add around 20 to 30% increase to your gross salary (before taxes), plus additional benefits like accommodation and transportation, etc. So, there's nothing to worry about. Just ask your employer to issue the certificate for a bank, then show it to them. You can redact any private information; all they're looking for is your name, company, and salary.

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Thanks. They didn't need it in the end. They made an offer without it for me.

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How is this going with Aramco? I am only at first stage of Hire Vue interview and they're asking me for 3 months payslip. .

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Welcome to BE. Top tip: you can see all of a members previous posts by clicking on their username and selecting from the drop down menu - https://britishexpats.com/forum/midd.../#post13321460

Im not sure if Zeroinfinite will be back on the forum as they had their offer withdrawn, but you can find the info you need on the link above.

I hope that help, good luck.

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I didn't give it to them. They asked but given the nature of my work, they're unable to request such information. They will price match your NET and add 20% on top of that for the base. They will then add 2 additional payments on top of that calculated as a percentage of your base. I hope that helps.

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I don't mind responding. I've had my offer withdrawn and now I feel free not having to spend evenings and weekends trying to fill in one form or another. Fortunately, I've got interviews with Deloitte in Saudi who will beat Aramco's package assuming I'm successful with them. I've also got another interview lined up with Microsoft in Saudi so things are looking positive. Both require relocation to Saudi but are remote working with client visits.

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Worth reading the comments from this forum: https://www.thelayoff.com/saudi-aramco I ignored it thinking it's people's just moaning about it but towards the end they became really agressive and pushy because they wanted me there before the year is over and they still hadn't finished their paperwork.